Any gay ATOT'ers here?

[PaperclipGod]

I'm REALLY, HONESTLY not trying to be offensive here, just curious. My curiosity stems from hearing about how hard it is for people to grow up gay. I mean, from peer pressure to parents it's not an easy thing, i'd imagine. Hell, from those two things alone i think you can make a pretty strong argument that being gay is genetic. I can't imagine many 12 year olds on the verge of adolescence thinking "hey, i think i'll be gay, get ostracized from my peers, run the risk of my parents disowning me, and just learn to live in a society that doesnt like me!"

Anyway, here's the question for any gays here: If you could snap your fingers and become heterosexual, would you? Or rather, since most of the gay people reading this have probably already established their lives around a gay identity... if you could have become heterosexual back when you first realized you were gay, would you? Imagine for a moment that you were just as attracted to women as you are to men. Imagine yourself not missing being gay, because you were never of that inclination to begin with.

So?

 

[gamepad]

This might be interesting...

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
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/popcorn
/lawnchair

 

[moshquerade]

imho, no one chooses to be gay. they are just born that way.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
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/popcorn
/lawnchair

/beer

 

[Steve]

Not all gays get ostracized, disowned, and hated by society.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
imho, no one chooses to be gay. they are just born that way.

The spark that will cause the flames was just struck.

 

[blue1friday2]

Wow. How did you even think of something this ridiculous, OP?
Second thought... don't really need to know.

 

[TheSlamma]

Best place to start asking is at a far right Christian church in the Colroado suburbs. Ofcourse start with the leaders of the church, the guys condemning gays to hell.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade
imho, no one chooses to be gay. they are just born that way.

The spark that will cause the flames was just struck.

explain your comment.

 

[sjvlad]

I actually had a conversation about this with one of my room mates just a couple days ago. One of her best friends is gay and this came up in a chat between them. He is perfectly happy being gay; friends are accepting, has a nice boyfriend, etc. If given the option, however, he would turn straight in a heartbeat just so life would be easeier for him to get through.

 

[PaperclipGod]

Originally posted by: sjvlad
I actually had a conversation about this with one of my room mates just a couple days ago. One of her best friends is gay and this came up in a chat between them. He is perfectly happy being gay; friends are accepting, has a nice boyfriend, etc. If given the option, however, he would turn straight in a heartbeat just so life would be easeier for him to get through.

Interesting.

Do you think there are parallels with this for everyone? i.e., "I wish i was more attractive, id have an easier time getting the mate of my dreams." or "If i could snap my fingers and have a million dollars i would, because life would be easier"? Are they comparable, or no?

 

[gamepad]

Originally posted by: PaperclipGod

Originally posted by: sjvlad
I actually had a conversation about this with one of my room mates just a couple days ago. One of her best friends is gay and this came up in a chat between them. He is perfectly happy being gay; friends are accepting, has a nice boyfriend, etc. If given the option, however, he would turn straight in a heartbeat just so life would be easeier for him to get through.

Interesting.

Do you think there are parallels with this for everyone? i.e., "I wish i was more attractive, id have an easier time getting the mate of my dreams." or "If i could snap my fingers and have a million dollars i would, because life would be easier"? Are they comparable, or no?

I think so, but, if you achieve that parallel you'll develop a new one. Just gotta learn to deal with what you have.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
I'm REALLY, HONESTLY not trying to be offensive here, just curious. My curiosity stems from hearing about how hard it is for people to grow up gay. I mean, from peer pressure to parents it's not an easy thing, i'd imagine. Hell, from those two things alone i think you can make a pretty strong argument that being gay is genetic. I can't imagine many 12 year olds on the verge of adolescence thinking "hey, i think i'll be gay, get ostracized from my peers, run the risk of my parents disowning me, and just learn to live in a society that doesnt like me!"

Anyway, here's the question for any gays here: If you could snap your fingers and become heterosexual, would you? Or rather, since most of the gay people reading this have probably already established their lives around a gay identity... if you could have become heterosexual back when you first realized you were gay, would you? Imagine for a moment that you were just as attracted to women as you are to men. Imagine yourself not missing being gay, because you were never of that inclination to begin with.

So?

I'm not gay, but when you state the question like that I don't think anyone COULD say they'd rather be gay. All you're losing is one reason for people to be bigoted toward you. There is no inherent advantage to being gay, but there are inherent advantages to being straight.

Now I'm sure someone is going to read my comment outside of the context of the OP and flame me...

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade
imho, no one chooses to be gay. they are just born that way.

The spark that will cause the flames was just struck.

explain your comment.

I think he's saying that there are people who will disagree with you and this will turn into a flame war. But you were really just restating what the OP said, so he really can't blame you.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Best place to start asking is at a far right Christian church in the Colroado suburbs. Ofcourse start with the leaders of the church, the guys condemning gays to hell.

The leaders of the church can't condemn anyone to hell unless they're throwing homosexuals in the pit of fire themselves. Condemnation can only come from God, not from church leaders.

However, this thread isn't to discuss the condemnation of homosexuals to hell... it's to discuss whether homosexuals on ATOT would "go straight" if they could simply snap their fingers (in Z formation!) and do so.

Let's stay on topic before the thread turns into a religious/anti-religious flamefest and gets locked.

 

[Maximilian]

One of my good mates is gay. Hes always been different from everyone else, dont think he would want to snap his fingers and be straight all of a sudden, he isnt a waste of space emo either so hes got no real wish to fit in or be what people expect. More power to him :thumbsup:

 

[maximus maximus]

I have a question... do any other animals, part from human beings, have a tendency to be gay?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: PaperclipGod

Originally posted by: sjvlad
I actually had a conversation about this with one of my room mates just a couple days ago. One of her best friends is gay and this came up in a chat between them. He is perfectly happy being gay; friends are accepting, has a nice boyfriend, etc. If given the option, however, he would turn straight in a heartbeat just so life would be easeier for him to get through.

Interesting.

Do you think there are parallels with this for everyone? i.e., "I wish i was more attractive, id have an easier time getting the mate of my dreams." or "If i could snap my fingers and have a million dollars i would, because life would be easier"? Are they comparable, or no?

How about black vs. white?

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: maximus maximus
I have a question... do any other animals, part from human beings, have a tendency to be gay?

yeah prolly

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade
imho, no one chooses to be gay. they are just born that way.

The spark that will cause the flames was just struck.

explain your comment.

I think he's saying that there are people who will disagree with you and this will turn into a flame war. But you were really just restating what the OP said, so he really can't blame you.

i welcome anyone to disagree with me, and i'd really like to hear an explanation of their position on the issue.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

I don't know what it is like to be heterosexual, and I am not unhappy being homosexual.
I just wish I didn't have to worry about it.

 

[gamepad]

Originally posted by: maximus maximus
I have a question... do any other animals, part from human beings, have a tendency to be gay?

I hear there is a species of ram where a group of male rams live isolated from females and make do with what they have.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Best place to start asking is at a far right Christian church in the Colroado suburbs. Ofcourse start with the leaders of the church, the guys condemning gays to hell.

The Church has no right in condemning anyone. Only God has that authority. That is why I am not Catholic (although many Protestant churches are beginning to use their power to claim authority over it's members).

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Best place to start asking is at a far right Christian church in the Colroado suburbs. Ofcourse start with the leaders of the church, the guys condemning gays to hell.

The Church has no right in condemning anyone. Only God has that authority. That is why I am not Catholic (although many Protestant churches are beginning to use their power to claim authority over it's members).

well, i am Catholic, and that doesn't mean i have to agree with all of the church's teachings.