Any experiences with Geil Golden Dragon Series Ram?

[SaiNRuB]

Geil Golden Dragon Series from Newegg

Im wanting a dual channel optimized set and that 2X512 PC3500 4.5NS set looks mighty nice.

Not a single review anywhere.

Lets get some feedback please, anybody use this and what performance did you achieve?

Did I mention that is some sexy ram?

 

[Tetsuo]

whoa nice!

i cant find any reviews either, i think this would be the ram of choise for modders

btw..is that a CLEAR heatspreader or what?

 

[SaiNRuB]

It says its a Advanced WLCSP Package, whatever that means

Pretty small chips so they covered it with that interesting heat cover.

I dunno what its made of.

I want to know about that Dragon Eye, that red led on the board for power detection.

I wonder if it really is in the Dragons eye?


Cool stuff, glad im not the only one who thinks so.

 

[SaiNRuB]

Further inspection seems that its just there for displaying the dragon logo.


Dont know if it serves a purpose other than looking cool.

 

[SaiNRuB]

The high speed is achieved from GeIL industry-leading engineering technology:
Wafer Level Chip Scale Package (WLCSP). Each chip is directly mounted to the
module PCB in its original wafer format and die size without any type of
conventional packaging. Thus, there are no soldering legs as with the
conventional method. This breakthrough technology would not only dramatically reduces
the electro-magnetic noise, but the module also produces very little heat under
stressed operation. The end result is high bus clock speed and low operational
temperature. No heat spreader is required. And because of its low
electro-magnetic noise (EMC), when equipped, the computer receives higher
system-wide stability and greater over-clocking potential.

Quoted from GEILS homepage product description.


Now I know

 

[Corporate Thug]

looks cool. cant wait til a review

 

[SinfulWeeper]

Order a set and review them.

Personally I think it (the memory stick itself) looks gay...

 

[CraigRT]

Geil is the devil.. I will never ever use that stuff again.

 

[tchybrid]

i remember look at an add in my local computer shop for the Golden Dragon Series back in October when i was picking up my 2 stocks of Ultra Platinums. they seem interesting, i can't wait for a review either.

 

[anomaly]

It reminds me of the Tiny BGA memory that came out, the first 150mhzfsb memory. Interesting. I'll order some when I build my 2.4c system next week and see how high I can push it =)

 

[LastRide]

 

[LastRide]

I mentioned this ram 2-3 weeks ago when someone posted about the Ultra Platinum.There were no reviews or any info anywhere.The PC3700 Golden Dragon series ram is what I am interested in.

 

[INGlewood78]

Dont know if this is related...but I bought a GEIL PC3500 dual channel kit from newegg a month ago...running a 1700+ DLT3C @ 2.3 ghz (11.5 x 200). Ram timings are 2-3-3-6. The ram is rated over pc3200 speeds but It doenst do that unless I loosen the timings..which is counter productive. This left a bad taste in my mouth with GEIL ram. Its fairly inexpensive at around $200 for a 1gb dual channel kit (2x512)...but dont expect to overclock more than what the ram is rated at. Personally if I had to do it over again...I would shell out the extra $$ for crucial or something bc GEIL has been a disappointment in the overclocking area. Again...this is not the "dragon series" per say...but you can deduce ur own conclusions about my experience with GEIL ram...

 

[tchybrid]

i'm currently running my PC3500 Ultra Platinums at CAS2-5-2-2 2.9v at DDR433 without a problem so far personally, GeIL has been good to me

 

[nippyjun]

Originally posted by: tchybrid
i'm currently running my PC3500 Ultra Platinums at CAS2-5-2-2 2.9v at DDR433 without a problem so far personally, GeIL has been good to me

How did you know that you needed to up the voltage to 2.9?

 

[onza]

Originally posted by: nippyjun

Originally posted by: tchybrid
i'm currently running my PC3500 Ultra Platinums at CAS2-5-2-2 2.9v at DDR433 without a problem so far personally, GeIL has been good to me

How did you know that you needed to up the voltage to 2.9?

i'd assume trial and error..

 

[nippyjun]

Yes, but what problems were there at lower voltages that lead you to believe that the memory needed more voltage?

 

[tchybrid]

the ram is rated to run anywhere from 2.5 to 3.1v, i just set it at the highest voltage for overclocking purposes.

 

[AthlonXP]

why waste $$$ on some gimmick crap. Get some corsairs or learn it the hard way.

 

[Corporate Thug]

does anyone know the volatage range XMS pc3200 is rated to run up to? i cant find anything on their site. i got mine set at 2.8V, i wanna bump it up one more to 2.9

 

[pspada]

My OCZ Performance series PC3200 has booted as high as 494Mhz, no change to the voltage! But I've not tried running it CL2 at those speeds, nor does Winblows start up properly.

 

[muledriver]

I have looked for reviews also with no success. I'm building a new system with the Biostar P4TCA Pro mobo, a Canterwood board + 3.0 Ghz 800fsb processor + Geil Golden Dragon GD3500-1000DC .... 2 sticks 512mb PC3500 DDR. I'm not buying it for looks, but rather for it's features. I'm not neccessarily into overclocking, even though my current antique system 75Mhz fsb does overclock everthing. Just want a system that is utilized to full potential.

The features are:

Wafer Level Chip Scale Package (WLCSP) = no heat??? or low heat?

Serial Presense Detect (SPD) = optimized?

4.5ns chips

Just hopefully ordering today, 2weeks or so to get it together.

If it works out ok and I can still scrounge up some $, I'd like to add another gig to it.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
Geil is the devil.. I will never ever use that stuff again.

Why? I've got two sticks of it running at 200MHz on my 8RDA+ just fine. I saw this style of chip elsewhere, but that was from a shady vendor; this is the first I've actually seen it anywhere else.

FYI, I think that clear thing is actually a chip guard, to protect the smaller chips from damage.

 

[crzyricn]

hey wussup guys i have the pc3500 version of that kit running on a soltek nforce2 board and i will copy and paste what i posted in another thread......

alot of people on this thread have been having problems with geil memory and this motherboard. I have the pc3200 kit installed in my board and i dont have a problem running it at 200 fsb. My cousin just purchased the geil golden dragon pc 3500 memory and we installed it in my system untill he gets his board (sl75-frn2 i have the sl75-frn-l). When i installed the memory and tried to run at 200 fsb all seamed right until i tried a 3dmark 2003 the computer would completely restart every time. I tried my memory to see what was going on and i started having the same problem with my memory. it just would not run at 2-6-3-3 like it had been. I went to www.geil.com.tw and they are stating that geil memory has issue's with the nvidia chipset and for it to run correctly it has to be @ 2.5-8-4-4 so that explains the problem with the golden dragon pc3500. In order to get my pc3200 back and running @ 2-6-3-3 i had to play with it switching the memory modules around and playing with the voltages until it was stable. I am running at 10X200 2-6-3-3 with 1.5 volts to the cpu, 2.6 volts to the memory and 1.6 vdd. I can now run prime95, windows media player playing a video, sisoft sandra burn in wizard, nortons antivirus scan and 3dmark 2003 at the same time with no errors i only let everything loop for 4 hours cause i got tired of waiting for it. Basically Nvidia needs to correct whatever the problem is hopefully they will with either the drivers, or with bios files. By the way i know that cp-geek made the modified bios for the sl75-frn-l is there a way to get in contact with him in order to get the higher fsb settings that the sl75-frn2 bios does. With the vdd adjust i would think you could run faster than 211 because my system runns 211 fine without raising the voltage. Even with gayle oops geil memory LOL

basically there is a problem with geil memory and the nforce2 chipset running on single channel it will run at 2-6-3-3 but running in dual channel it has to run at either 2.5-8-4-4 or 2-8-4-4.