Any cloud storage backup plans that aren't rediculously expensive for a single server

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Lifer
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I don't really get the pricing plans for the major cloud backup providers.

A home plan can be unlimited storage for $5 a month. But if you need to back up a server OS, it's now $30/month and in many cases the storage is limited.

Another example is iDrive, $74 year for 1TB of storage as long as you don't have a server. If you do it's the same $74 but you only get 250GB of storage.

I've looked at Mozy (forget it), Crashplan, iDrive, SOS, Carbonite, and Backblaze.

Any others to look at?
 
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How do they know if you have a server or not?

I back up my server with a normal Crashplan home account for a single computer and it's the $60/year. One computer, one backup, done.
 

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How do they know if you have a server or not?

I back up my server with a normal Crashplan home account for a single computer and it's the $60/year. One computer, one backup, done.

Most of the sites list the OS's they support and only the business plans list something like Server 2008/R2 or 2012.

Maybe it would work, haven't actually tried it just going by what the site says.
 

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Lifer
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SoS did send me a message saying they would support a single server with their standard plan but I would need to work with support. So I do have an option there.
 

PliotronX

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What OS is your 'server' running?

Viper GTS
It's irrielevant for CP; I use it with 2012 R2 Standard whereas standard Backblaze won't install onto a Windows Server OS (tested it myself). CP is so cheap, effective, and easy to use I haven't looked much at anything else honestly.
 

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What OS is your 'server' running?

Viper GTS

I think dave_the_nerd is running freebsd, but crashplan has a native application for Linux, osx, and windows, and freebsd has binary compatibility with almost all 32-bit Linux applications out of the box.
 
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What OS is your 'server' running?

Viper GTS
Ubuntu Server.

It's using the Crashplan Engine JAR, which I'm adminning from a Windows system using the GUI and an SSH port remap.

It should work on Windows too, but I haven't tried it.
 
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I think dave_the_nerd is running freebsd, but crashplan has a native application for Linux, osx, and windows, and freebsd has binary compatibility with almost all 32-bit Linux applications out of the box.

Close.

I mapped the NFS shares from the FreeBSD server to an Ubuntu VM and run the Crashplan engine there - in the past I had some issues running it directly on FreeBSD, and had to restart the Crashplan service about once a month. This method is strange, I know, but has been much more reliable.
 

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Lifer
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I use CrashPlan and I was not aware they didn't restrict to client platforms (does that apply to the family plan as well?).

I use read only NFS mounts of my general file shares to backup through a Ubuntu VM as well - Gets me around the Windows limitation of no network drives and yes it's very reliable.

Viper GTS
 

Essence_of_War

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Close.

I mapped the NFS shares from the FreeBSD server to an Ubuntu VM and run the Crashplan engine there - in the past I had some issues running it directly on FreeBSD, and had to restart the Crashplan service about once a month. This method is strange, I know, but has been much more reliable.

Nice! That is pretty saucy, I'll have to note that for later.
 

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Is there any realtime backup tool with dedup like crashplan for free? CP's free version backups once a day, need a continuous backup to the CP server.
 
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Is there any realtime backup tool with dedup like crashplan for free? CP's free version backups once a day, need a continuous backup to the CP server.

It depends on the underlying tech involved, but there a shitton of realtime replication tools available that work on datasets, databases, file systems, or block devices.
 

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Just as a test I installed Crashplan and iDrive on Windows Server 2008R2 both installed with no issues and I was able to run the backups so maybe I don't need the business plan after all.

What I did find is that backing up to Crashplan almost maxed my upload bandwidth which is only 12Mb/s (thanks Comcast) but downloads were pretty awful. I've can pull over 100Mb/s on my connection and download speeds from Crashplan was less than 1MB/s.

iDrive backups were terribly slow, in many cases only hitting 300-500KB/s, downloads were equally bad.
 

mnewsham

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Crashplan almost maxed my upload bandwidth which is only 12Mb/s

Lucky bastard, I have 150Mbps upload and I only occasionally see crashplan using more than 1-2MB/s.

Though right this moment it's using ~4.5MB/s, this is probably the highest I regularly see it however. Would be nice if it occasionally could use 10-15MB/s or a bit more even.
 
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Just as a test I installed Crashplan and iDrive on Windows Server 2008R2 both installed with no issues and I was able to run the backups so maybe I don't need the business plan after all.

What I did find is that backing up to Crashplan almost maxed my upload bandwidth which is only 12Mb/s (thanks Comcast) but downloads were pretty awful. I've can pull over 100Mb/s on my connection and download speeds from Crashplan was less than 1MB/s.

iDrive backups were terribly slow, in many cases only hitting 300-500KB/s, downloads were equally bad.

I had a similar problem - the delays in outgoing traffic slow down your clients' ability to request more incoming traffic.

Just implementing the all-default-dumb-settings QoS on my ASUS router improved things drastically. (As in, I can't tell when my computer is backing up by how terribly Netflix works.)