Any Benefits From Putting 2 Samsung 830s in RAID0?

[TemjinGold]

Never realized that 4k was that important. Does anyone happen to know how the 4k on my drive (160 g2) compares to a modern one? Like maybe the 840 Pro maybe? And if the modern number is much higher, does that mean I would see a difference in performance then?

 

[Makaveli]

Without benchmarks all we have is hollow claims, self inflicted infocest, unfounded opinion, and half-wit perception...all which seem to fester here. I see the light, I'll take my 830 raid and go home...allowing you to play amongst yourselves.

You have no clue what you are talking about everyone that does has already posted why you are wrong.

Have fun with your Raid 0 Benchmarks!

 

[Coup27]

I'm in the same boat as the OP: I bought 2x256 830s I was planning on putting in RAID0 strictly for games. (I've got another SATA II 128 for the OS.)

From what I'm reading here,

Would it be best to just leave the 2x256 drives plugged into a SATA III non-raid PCI-E controller without raiding (leaving the drives as two volumes with the STEAM game mover app), keeping TRIM, or raiding them in SATA II and losing TRIM? (I've got Intel, I believe, in my EVGA 4-way SLI.)

I'm just concerned I'd lose TRIM just to have one volume.

Thanks-

What motherboard do you have? Do you have to put them through a PCI Express > SATA card? Traditionally those things are crap, unless you've spent decent money on something like an LSI one. Also check if TRIM is still supported on that card.

But in general I would say yes. I would keep the SSDs separate and keep TRIM. I see no benefit with RAID0 on SSDs.

Never realized that 4k was that important. Does anyone happen to know how the 4k on my drive (160 g2) compares to a modern one? Like maybe the 840 Pro maybe? And if the modern number is much higher, does that mean I would see a difference in performance then?

This should help.

My old Intel X25-M G2 80GB on an i3 Clarkdale H55 mobo

My current Samsung 830 128GB on an i3 Sandy Bridge Z68 mobo

My 2x830 128GB RAID0 experiment on an i3 Sandy Bridge Z68 mobo

I'll let you draw your own conclusion 😛

 

[Makaveli]

Never realized that 4k was that important. Does anyone happen to know how the 4k on my drive (160 g2) compares to a modern one? Like maybe the 840 Pro maybe? And if the modern number is much higher, does that mean I would see a difference in performance then?

Here are my numbers from my G2

 

[TemjinGold]

Hrmm... so that's a no I guess? Unless 4K write matters...

 

[Coup27]

You will not get a massive increase from your Intel to an 830. I only did it because I had an opportunity to sell my Clarkdale rig so I thought why not and treated myself to a new Sandy Bridge rig.

 

[Old Hippie]

Never realized that 4k was that important. Does anyone happen to know how the 4k on my drive (160 g2) compares to a modern one? Like maybe the 840 Pro maybe? And if the modern number is much higher, does that mean I would see a difference in performance then?

As usual, many seem to go directly to the sequential read/write speeds to declare the 'best drive'.

Read a little here and learn. 🙂

 

[Makaveli]

As usual, many seem to go directly to the sequential read/write speeds to declare the 'best drive'.

Read a little here and learn. 🙂

Thanks I need to forward this to a friend another stubborn person like the guy in this thread.

I place the blame on the marketing and the consumer. Them for marketing one set of numbers and end users for not doing their homework.

 

[Coup27]

I place the blame on the marketing and the consumer. Them for marketing one set of numbers and end users for not doing their homework.

You can't really blame the marketing people. It's their job to make the product look as good as possible and they make millions from people not doing their homework.

I have spent a frankly obscene amount of time reading and learning what I know about various subjects and if somebody simply can't be bothered (not aimed at anybody in this thread, just in general) then they deserve what they get.

 

[Old Hippie]

You can't really blame the marketing people. It's their job to make the product look as good as possible and they make millions from people not doing their homework.

'Tis true. It's up to the consumer to educated themselves but most don't bother......and I get tired of saying the same thing over, and over, and over....because they can't be bothered to search.

I've used RAID for as long as I've used SSDs (4-5yrs) and because they "stack" so well have always found an improvement in performance.

 

[Makaveli]

You can't really blame the marketing people. It's their job to make the product look as good as possible and they make millions from people not doing their homework.

I have spent a frankly obscene amount of time reading and learning what I know about various subjects and if somebody simply can't be bothered (not aimed at anybody in this thread, just in general) then they deserve what they get.

Good point.

I just wish something could be done about the deceptive marketing tatics that most companies are allowed to use these days.

While for us its not a problem the rest just get raped for their cash.

But as you pointed out at the end of the day its up to the consumer to educate yourself no one else will do it for you.

 

[Old Hippie]

I just wish something could be done about the deceptive marketing tatics that most companies are allowed to use these days.

We've come a long way from old time medicines but you'll always have some that don't/won't read the fine print.