AntiHurricane device in the works

Schadenfroh

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In a talk presented Monday at the 27th annual meeting of the American Meteorological Society's conference on Hurricanes and Tropical Meteorology, Philip Kithil of Atmocean, Inc. presented a radical idea to reduce the intensity of hurricanes approaching the coast: deploy an array of wave-activated deep ocean pumps in front of an approaching storm. These pumps would each be attached to a 1000 meter long, 1.5 meter diameter flexible tube moored to the ocean bottom. Since the water at 1 kilometer depth is up to 15 degrees C cooler than the surface water, these pumps could quickly pump enough cold water to the surface to significantly cool the surface waters. Assuming a typical 2-meter high wave, the pumps, which operate at 30% efficiency, would be able to able to pump enough cold water to the surface in a day or two to cool a 50 meter deep layer by 1 degree C. In a field test conducted near Bermuda last year, Atmocean lowered the surface temperature of ocean water by 4 degrees C using a test pump attached to a 25 cm wide, 160 meter long tube.
 

Kadarin

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Interesting idea. The question I have would be whether they could do it on a large enough scale to make a difference, and could they do it without fvcking up the ecosystem.
 

batchusa

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Interesting idea. The question I have would be whether they could do it on a large enough scale to make a difference, and could they do it without fvcking up the ecosystem.

qft
 

BoomerD

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Changing the water temps like this might not only fvck up the ecosystems, but alter the way the ocean currents flow, which could seriously affect the climate of the planet...Besides, anyplace that would elect a Bush for governor, deserves a good douching every year...;)
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Changing the water temps like this might not only fvck up the ecosystems, but alter the way the ocean currents flow, which could seriously affect the climate of the planet...Besides, anyplace that would elect a Bush for governor, deserves a good douching every year...;)

seriously, it's like, fixing one thing only to screw up 14 more things. not a good idea, IMO. hurricanes are NATURAL and are here for a reason.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: batchusa
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Interesting idea. The question I have would be whether they could do it on a large enough scale to make a difference, and could they do it without fvcking up the ecosystem.

qft

yeah that was my first thought
 

destrekor

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yet another device trying to preserve people's stay in places they dont belong. the hurricanes are part of a cycle, likely a large cycle that will likely end up with little to no hurricanes and a very cold northern hemisphere. i think this year the hurricanes will be quite powerful, much like last year, due to warm sea waters. that is, if the waters are really warm again this year, which i see them being that way for awhile.
 

SpanishFry

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Changing the water temps like this might not only fvck up the ecosystems, but alter the way the ocean currents flow, which could seriously affect the climate of the planet...Besides, anyplace that would elect a Bush for governor, deserves a good douching every year...;)



Right. Large numbers of people deserve to die, be displaced, etc. because you think they should've voted for some other asshole. High class.
 

Compton

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Changing the water temps like this might not only fvck up the ecosystems, but alter the way the ocean currents flow, which could seriously affect the climate of the planet...Besides, anyplace that would elect a Bush for governor, deserves a good douching every year...;)

seriously, it's like, fixing one thing only to screw up 14 more things. not a good idea, IMO. hurricanes are NATURAL and are here for a reason.

I agree. God is mad at America.
 

DrPizza

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These pumps would each be attached to a 1000 meter long, 1.5 meter diameter flexible tube moored to the ocean bottom.

Atmocean lowered the surface temperature of ocean water by 4 degrees C using a test pump attached to a 25 cm wide, 160 meter long tube.

Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

How do you deploy 10's of thousands of these things?
From that pdf file, they would be spaced 100 meters apart. Rather than assuming a hexagonal closed packed pattern of circles, I'll go with the method of determining the 100 meter spacing that leads to the fewest needed of these things. Let's see, guessing a necessary radius of 100km, we have a surface area of 3141 square kilometers, or 3141000000 square meters. With each tube covering a 100m by 100m area, that's an area of 10000 square meters.

Oh, heck, that's simple... they only need to deploy 314100 of these things! It's late, I'm tired... maybe my calculation is off by a little bit. Maybe you only need to cover an area with a radius of 25 kilometers... meaning you'd need 1/16th the number of tubes.. (Yeah, right, forecasters can predict within 12 miles where the center of a storm is headed a day in advance??) That's roughly 20,000 of these things to stick out there, assuming we're going to do it only in the path of the storm.

Cool invention... I highly doubt it would ever even be attempted to be implemented, even before ecological changes are considered.


 

DrPizza

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Hmmm... after I read a bit more, I see he has prices on these things and has done the math...

Just a few billion dollars to install this technology. (or was that just the cost of the tubes?)