Oh yeah the leader of the unified world says if you want to lead a business, make your own bread, lead a normal life, you have to obey me. The ones that don't he kills, then some are left unkilled cause he cant get to em all so JC shows up and goes shazam on his as.s and takes the left over ones to Heaven and the rest that followed the dude to hell.
CrackRabbit
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Actually when JC ends the party he invites you to a new party where you get to start over again. And yes this party is for the non believers?.
As for "the" antichrist, I don't recall there being any mention of a single, main AntiChrist in the Bible. I remember "spirit of antichrist", but not "the antichrist".
As for the book of revelations, I consider it to be a fascinating book that provides a great deal of understanding, once you can understand the symbolism behind it.
I do think it is funny when people say " yeah right, like the world would unite under some figure and religion"...
Can you imagine if someone with supernatural powers existed in our world. Billions would flock to them.... especially if they werent shy about proving their powers.
Can you imagine if someone with supernatural powers existed in our world. Billions would flock to them.... especially if they werent shy about proving their powers.
AntiChrist really means not Christ.
This is different than how most folks now think it means a literal entity fighting against Christ. This is a new understandign contrary to how the term was originally used.
This is different than how most folks now think it means a literal entity fighting against Christ. This is a new understandign contrary to how the term was originally used.
Well, as I said before, the Bible refers only to the "spirit of antichrist", not to some actual individual being. As far as I know, there has never been anything to suggest that any one person would rise up as *the* antichrist and that people all over would follow him. As for people all over following the *spirit* of antichrist, I think most people would agree that that can be seen today all around the world.
So I agree. I think people have confused the spirit of antichrist with an actual being.
1prophet
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Cliff notes:
- He will come through peace
Have no desire for women
Have supernatural powers and the ability to use them at will( giving the so called proof many desire
)
Demand all worship him or be put to death
Will not allow buying or selling unless you have the number of the beast on you
The Antichrist is mentioned in many places: Key word here is peace, if you are looking for a warmonger that takes over by force you will not recognize him (imagine someone who can and will solve the problems in the middle east)
Daniel 11
21And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
22And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
23And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
24He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
Another important phrase, he will have no desire for women, that can only apply to a man.
Daniel 11
37Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
He will only come after the falling away, that is what you see happening today when you see the hypocritical money grabbing televangelists, or those that say they are christians but live a lifestyle of selfishness and hate putting down those who are not like them and when their hipocrasy is pointed out they attack worse than any nonbeliever. So God will give them unto their sin and cause many to believe a lie so that they would follow the Antichrist and be damned.
2 Thessalonians 2
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Matthew 24
21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
You know how many on these forums ask for proof of God, take a guess what is going to happen when people arise including the Antichrist who will have supernatural powers and the ability to use them at will and give these unbelievers the proof their hearts desire even some believers will pause and look twice and if possible be decieved
No buying or selling unless you are marked:
Revelation
13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
I won't quote your whole comment, since it was quite long.
You example in Daniel speaks of multiple kings, 4 specifically if I recall, each possessing the spirit of antichrist, each being a type of antichrist, but the notion of either being *the* antichrist is not supported. Your verses in Matthew even support that claim, that there will be many false prophets, or antichrists, and not a single *the* antichrist.
As for the mark of the beast, there are actually 3 beast spoken of in Revelations with this specific reference, so again not an individual. The Dragon, the Sea Beast, and the Land Beast. They are in fact a mockery of the Godhead. Consider:
God == Dragon
Christ == Sea Beast
Holy Ghost == Land Beast
Why this analogy? Well, take a step back first. Chapter 12. The story of the Woman, Child, and Dragon. The Woman represents the Church of God, the child represents Christ, and the Dragon represent Satan. Even speaks of a sign in heaven showing this, and oddly enough, there is a constellation named Virgo (virgin woman), Coma (child), and Draco (Dragon), with the Dragon trying to swallow the child. Cool huh??
Anyway, the Dragon attempts to swallow the child, so the Woman (the church) take refuge in the wilderness (hmm, sounds like that falling away you were talking about). Eventually though, a resistution of all things happens (Acts 3:21).
After that time, the Dragon declares war on the Woman once she has returned. He first creats the Sea Beast (God creates Christ Rev 3:14). Sea Beast received a deadly wound that is healed/Christ received a deadly wound and was ressurected. The Land Beast is created "...and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed." (Rev 13:12). What is the role of the Holy Ghost? To testify of Christ (1 Cor. 12:3).
Therefore, through his supposed cunningness, the Devil has created his own Godhead to make war with the true Godhead. Isn't revelations a freakin cool book??
As for the mark itself, who knows what it will be. Bar code, credit cards, people with 666 written on their forehead with a sharpee, who knows?
You example in Daniel speaks of multiple kings, 4 specifically if I recall, each possessing the spirit of antichrist, each being a type of antichrist, but the notion of either being *the* antichrist is not supported. Your verses in Matthew even support that claim, that there will be many false prophets, or antichrists, and not a single *the* antichrist.
As for the mark of the beast, there are actually 3 beast spoken of in Revelations with this specific reference, so again not an individual. The Dragon, the Sea Beast, and the Land Beast. They are in fact a mockery of the Godhead. Consider:
God == Dragon
Christ == Sea Beast
Holy Ghost == Land Beast
Why this analogy? Well, take a step back first. Chapter 12. The story of the Woman, Child, and Dragon. The Woman represents the Church of God, the child represents Christ, and the Dragon represent Satan. Even speaks of a sign in heaven showing this, and oddly enough, there is a constellation named Virgo (virgin woman), Coma (child), and Draco (Dragon), with the Dragon trying to swallow the child. Cool huh??
Anyway, the Dragon attempts to swallow the child, so the Woman (the church) take refuge in the wilderness (hmm, sounds like that falling away you were talking about). Eventually though, a resistution of all things happens (Acts 3:21).
After that time, the Dragon declares war on the Woman once she has returned. He first creats the Sea Beast (God creates Christ Rev 3:14). Sea Beast received a deadly wound that is healed/Christ received a deadly wound and was ressurected. The Land Beast is created "...and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed." (Rev 13:12). What is the role of the Holy Ghost? To testify of Christ (1 Cor. 12:3).
Therefore, through his supposed cunningness, the Devil has created his own Godhead to make war with the true Godhead. Isn't revelations a freakin cool book??
As for the mark itself, who knows what it will be. Bar code, credit cards, people with 666 written on their forehead with a sharpee, who knows?
1prophet
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The world is looking for a saviour, imagine someone with supernatural powers, able to bring peace to the middle east, feed the hungry, how can anyone dare accuse him of being the Antichrist?
Here is an example: Maitreya
Remember one thing, we can go back and forth all day long with scripture and looking for proof, but how many do you think won't believe someone who can't be killed, able to feed them ,have supernatural magical powers and uses them at will to prove he is the messiah and preaches peace because through peace he will destroy many as is quoted in Daniel?
Originally posted by: 1prophet
The world is looking for a saviour, imagine someone with supernatural powers, able to bring peace to the middle east, feed the hungry, how can anyone dare accuse him of being the Antichrist?
Here is an example: Maitreya
Remember one thing, we can go back and forth all day long with scripture and looking for proof, but how many do you think won't believe someone who can't be killed, able to feed them ,have supernatural magical powers and uses them at will to prove he is the messiah and preaches peace because through peace he will destroy many as is quoted in Daniel?
But you're still looking at this as though there is one single *the* antichrist, and there is not evidence of such a person. Granted, there will be people performing miracles through the power given them by Satan that will convince many. However, these events, similar to those in the court of Pharoah, will not be able to stand before the power of God. It will then be up to the people to learn to understand the difference.
This is exactly why I have told people before, if you're looking for a sign or proof that God is God, you're not going to be able to discern the difference between those of God and those not of God. You must have that understanding prior to such events.
Canun
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The end of the world has been a common fascination with man.
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