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Anti Keylogger Apps: Snake Oil or Effective?

Virgorising

Virgorising

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As per the title.

Thanks!
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Edit: in the event these R not snake oil, and I have no clue yet, I went looking for a free one and there are none for we who run 64-bit.

I resent just having to get accurate info on these now.
 
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Seriously? Out of all the truly savvy members here nobody has an informed option to offer on this?

Just cause I am in new paranoid mode, does not mean I wanna spend money on snake oil. So, I need to know if all these I now find are that or some are viable and so worth spending coin on.

Thank U.
 
I used an addon for Firefox that was an anti-keylogger that supposedly worked in the kernal level. That might be pretty good. I think it was called Keyscrambler. https://www.qfxsoftware.com/

Best to use a Sanbox like Sandboxie and scan all downloads.

I use PWDhash for passwords so keyloggers can't see crap.
 
I think this is worrying too much about the wrong thing. Odds are the way a password will probably get compromised is at the other end of the connection so it's far more important to simply use a different (preferably random) password for every site. For example Chrome has a random password generator built in (can be enabled in chrome://flags).

How you store them is up to you (e.g. Chrome/Firefox built in "save password" storage is the simplest and can be synced) but the fact that we have easy to use storage/sync stuff like that makes doing this very easy.
 
Snake oil. How would that even function? There's no way to guarantee an app is going to process a keystroke before a keylogger would.
 
TheRyuu said:
I think this is worrying too much about the wrong thing. Odds are the way a password will probably get compromised is at the other end of the connection so it's far more important to simply use a different (preferably random) password for every site. For example Chrome has a random password generator built in (can be enabled in chrome://flags).

How you store them is up to you (e.g. Chrome/Firefox built in "save password" storage is the simplest and can be synced) but the fact that we have easy to use storage/sync stuff like that makes doing this very easy.
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Interesting. Thank U. This new interest was generated by the recent There's a Spy in yr HDD via the NSA story. Prolly feeble attempt to make myself feel less violated, but hey.
 
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Keep windows and important programs updated. Download only from the source or from a reliable source like MajorGeeks and Softpedia. Scan everything you download before you run it with multiple scanners. I use virustotal, my resident AV, malwarebytes free and hitman pro free. That's about all we as home users can do to prevent getting infected.

You're more likely have your passwords stolen from another site, a man in the middle attack or from phishing.
 
balloonshark said:
Keep windows and important programs updated. Download only from the source or from a reliable source like MajorGeeks and Softpedia. Scan everything you download before you run it with multiple scanners. I use virustotal, my resident AV, malwarebytes free and hitman pro free. That's about all we as home users can do to prevent getting infected.

You're more likely have your passwords stolen from another site, a man in the middle attack or from phishing.
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Thank U....learned all that from the Get long ago, and I do mean all of it.

Have never had a real infection. I am just now trying to find some way of foiling what the NSA is capable of doing re the spying firmware in our HDDs, and suddenly thought, maybe I could stop them from logging keystrokes. Assuming that is wut they can do.

I know....lame.

Can spot a pishing mail from half way across the planet. When I get them, however rarely I always report them/forward them to the pishing people at whichever entity. Last one was Wells Fargo. As if I ever even had an account there. Pitiable.

I guess there is no point buying this anti keylogger app.
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I don't if much can be done to protect ourselves from hardware malware. The more we learn the scary things seem.

One thing about security software though. If it makes you feel better (more secure) and it provides another useful layer without conflicting or slowing down your system then it's worth it. I'm buried behind quiet a few layers myself 😉.

They have a free version if you want to give it a try. http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/zemana_antilogger.html

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Security-Related/Zemana-AntiLogger-Free.shtml
 
balloonshark said:
I don't if much can be done to protect ourselves from hardware malware. The more we learn the scary things seem.

One thing about security software though. If it makes you feel better (more secure) and it provides another useful layer without conflicting or slowing down your system then it's worth it. I'm buried behind quiet a few layers myself 😉.

They have a free version if you want to give it a try. http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/zemana_antilogger.html

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Security-Related/Zemana-AntiLogger-Free.shtml
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Thank U! I will follow up!

For me, worst part, it seems there is nothing short of mounting a revolution we can do about all we are now learning about.

Must check again, but, I think the free version of the app I was attracted to not compatible with 64-bit platform.....but not sure.

Still a big fan of recent builds of Norton IS, run scans with both MBAM and Superanti frequently, follow reviews of each new build of each app onoing, always have cause they change. And naturally, my systems are fully patched.

Again, my new issue is the spy the NASA has evolved and which, it seems lurks in the firmware of our HDDs.

Thanks again.:thumbsup:
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Edit; Just struck me....while no way do I use it as often as I was sure I would when I bought it, not even close, I wonder if Nuance Dragon Naturally Speaking, current build is a way of getting around keylogging?

IS IT?
 
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balloonshark said:
I don't if much can be done to protect ourselves from hardware malware. The more we learn the scary things seem.

One thing about security software though. If it makes you feel better (more secure) and it provides another useful layer without conflicting or slowing down your system then it's worth it. I'm buried behind quiet a few layers myself 😉.

They have a free version if you want to give it a try. http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/zemana_antilogger.html

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Security-Related/Zemana-AntiLogger-Free.shtml
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Many thanks for this! So OBJECTIVE!!!!:thumbsup:
 
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K....so I got this thing. At first, it intuited exceptions and I said yes to those cause they were right to exclude. After that, it did NOTHING. Not one thing. It starts with windows and balloon says Yay! We are watching out for you, beyond what U were already running re protection apps.... and the NSA has been foiled, feel bettah now???!

I think it's just lying.

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K, hold on....jus found this:
https://www.raymond.cc/blog/what-is-the-best-anti-keylogger-and-anti-screen-capture-software/

Maybe it's NOT lying. It's very confusing. I used to be able to tell if my software was lying to me or not. Now.....not so much.
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I'm running a HIPS that has some anti-keylogger capabilities. It has given me alerts when I ran a video editing program and two games. I have a behavior blocker with my AV and it alerted for two of my games with one being different from my HIPS alert.

With that said you might be able to trigger an alert by running a program that looks for things the program is monitoring. Or look here http://www.zemana.com/SecurityTests.aspx
 
balloonshark said:
I'm running a HIPS that has some anti-keylogger capabilities. It has given me alerts when I ran a video editing program and two games. I have a behavior blocker with my AV and it alerted for two of my games with one being different from my HIPS alert.

With that said you might be able to trigger an alert by running a program that looks for things the program is monitoring. Or look here http://www.zemana.com/SecurityTests.aspx
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Serious thanks for yr post and this "polygraph" for my new app! As it turns out, before I could get and run it, I discovered this new app is not, in fact, lying to me! I found and started downloading the off the chain performance of GLORY by the one and only John Legend, and Common....forget the chorus.... from last nite's Oscars....made me weep....and, the second I opened my very good UTube downloader, the new app said downloader was trying to log me, and asked if I wanted to allow it or not?

I said yes, of course.....but I am finally glad I got this not lying app! And it in no way conflicts with Norton IS or my other protection apps.

Thanks so much again!😀:thumbsup:
 
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Update: well....while this new app which is neither lying nor actual snake oil was, it seems, a good thing to add, it is also now telling me of spying going on I had no clue about!

i.e. Calibre ebook Mgr....which I would not wanna live without despite it updates every 7 minutes. I opened it to move two books to my reader, anti keylogger said it is logging U, allow it? Make it an exception? I said, yes. THEN, I got yet another flag saying some other part of Calibre was looking at the clipboard! And did I wanna allow THAT, etc.?

WUT?
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Edit: made a screenie to show. Pls see in red. Wut is PARALLEL in Calibre?????? Again, new app said it was looking at the clipboard.

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Update: well, just found this....it says safe. But, if it's looking at the clipboard, I dunno.

100% of reviewed files are marked as Safe .
Latest new variant of the file with name "calibre-parallel.exe" was discovered yesterday. Our database contains 23 variants of the file "calibre-parallel.exe" with final rating Safe and zero variants with final rating Threat . Final ratings are based on file reviews, discovered date, users occurence and antivirus scan results.
 
Mushkins said:
Snake oil. How would that even function? There's no way to guarantee an app is going to process a keystroke before a keylogger would.
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This.

A better option would be to just, you know, uninstall the keylogger.

Also, if someone has physical access to your computer, you've already lost. I suggest finding better roommates.
 
Rakehellion said:
This.

A better option would be to just, you know, uninstall the keylogger.

Also, if someone has physical access to your computer, you've already lost. I suggest finding better roommates.
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My, such cynicism/bitterness emnating there in Brooklyn! :|

First, U mean uninstall the ANTI keylogger app, yes?

Nope. After having experienced it, I find it viable and not totally bogus. No reason to get rid of it. As was said by someone objective and sharp....it adds another layer.

What makes you think I have roommates? Or anyone in my life goes near my systems or even wants to? Both, insulting quantum leaps belying objective truth.
 
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Hey Virgorising, if you want to learn a little more about non-typical security programs the "other anti-malware software" at wilder security forums is a good place to find out what others are using. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forums/other-anti-malware-software.35/

In the past I spent too much time at that forum but I did learn a lot. The sandboxing and virtualization forum is also helpful. I'm running a combo of HIPS, AV with behavior blocker, Sandboxie and I sometimes enable a light virtualization app. Using Sandboxie is like wearing a condom when you surf. I even force my download folder to be sandboxed in case I accidentally double click something before it's scanned. Everything I download is from reputable sites and it is scanned by multiple scanners.

Finding a security setup that is perfect for you and gets along with your other programs is actually kinda nice as long as you don't get OCD about it.
 
balloonshark said:
Hey Virgorising, if you want to learn a little more about non-typical security programs the "other anti-malware software" at wilder security forums is a good place to find out what others are using. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forums/other-anti-malware-software.35/

In the past I spent too much time at that forum but I did learn a lot. The sandboxing and virtualization forum is also helpful. I'm running a combo of HIPS, AV with behavior blocker, Sandboxie and I sometimes enable a light virtualization app. Using Sandboxie is like wearing a condom when you surf. I even force my download folder to be sandboxed in case I accidentally double click something before it's scanned. Everything I download is from reputable sites and it is scanned by multiple scanners.

Finding a security setup that is perfect for you and gets along with your other programs is actually kinda nice as long as you don't get OCD about it.
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Wow. On a scale of 1-10, what you’ve evolved re protection is a 16!😀 I will consider each element you’ve chosen.


Wilders looks OUTSTANDING in the data they offer! Thanks much for that:thumbsup:.
Early, on, and I think I am usually good delver and judge of software---I evolved an amalgam far more modest but, I felt, effective. As time passed, and as of now, I’ve settled on Norton IS….last 2 builds are excellent, rated in the top 3 for good reasons. Bitdefender is also highly rated, but I never tried it.



I used to run MBAM Pro or Superanti Pro in real time---one or the other, but no longer do; I scan with both every coupla days. Between those 3, it appeared a given system was OK.



I have always tracked independent reviews based on real deal benchmarks/testing for each app….given each changes build by build.


I have carefully chosen add ons in Pale moon and even IE. But I surf safely, and in PM always temporarily allow scripts to run. I mean someone could just go nuts trying to assess that, right?


Norton automatically scans every download....fast as lightening.



And now, I have this anti keylogger. Not entirely snake oil, but polly also not necessary.


So far, I’ve never had a real infection, and the number of friends’ infected systems I have cleaned up is beyond belief……but what Kasksperky has recently shared has catapulted me out of any former trust illusions into feeling hugely vulnerable. Even gob smacked, given, I had no clue.


For me, being smart/staying safe from external evils to the extent we CAN while also maintaining the connection speeds we pay for, I think was the goal.


But now that we know we have a spy in the firmware of our drives….I fear I may just be flailing.:|


Thanks so much for this detailed account again, I will consider each element.🙂
 
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