Anti-gay church protests at GI's funerals

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Engineer
Talk about radical? IMO, people like this are completely fvcked! Regardless of whether you support gays or the Iraq war, the soldiers and fallen deserve everything decent. These people will rot in the hell that they so want to avoid.

:thumbsup:
If this were at my kid's funeral, I'd call the police and have them removed. Seems like a clear case of disturbing the peace to me.

 

[kotss]

The interesting thing about this guy is, if GodHatesAmerica, then why is he living here.
Does he believe that his conviction to god will save him when America is swept clean.

What a fruit loop. He is a contradiction all in himself.

I wish it were not the radicals that ruin faith. They turn it into religion and then people
want to follow them. Keep faith to yourself, that is where it belongs. Prayer should be
private.

 

[TallBill]

thats why the military hates gays

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Engineer
Click me!

Talk about radical? IMO, people like this are completely fvcked! Regardless of whether you support gays or the Iraq war, the soldiers and fallen deserve everything decent. These people will rot in the hell that they so want to avoid.

EDIT: REMOVED Frist reference because these stupid people are from Kansas.

Anti-Gay Church Protests at GI Funerals By BETH RUCKER, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 26 minutes ago



SMYRNA, Tenn. - Members of a church say God is punishing American soldiers for defending a country that harbors gays, and they brought their anti-gay message to the funerals Saturday of two Tennessee soldiers killed in Iraq.



The church members were met with scorn from local residents. They chased the church members cars' down a highway, waving flags and screaming "God bless America."

"My husband is over there, so I'm here to show my support," 41-year-old Connie Ditmore said as she waved and American flag and as tears came to her eyes. "To do this at a funeral is disrespectful of a family, no matter what your beliefs are."

The Rev. Fred Phelps, founder of Westboro Baptist in Kansas, contends that American soldiers are being killed in Iraq as vengeance from God for protecting a country that harbors gays. The church, which is not affiliated with a larger denomination, is made up mostly of Phelps' children, grandchildren and in-laws.

The church members carried signs and shouted things such as "God hates fags" and "God hates you."

About 10 church members protested near Smyrna United Methodist Church and nearly 20 stood outside the National Guard Armory in Ashland City. Members have demonstrated at other soldier funerals across the nation.

The funerals were for Staff Sgt. Asbury Fred Hawn II, 35, in Smyrna and Spc. Gary Reese Jr., 22, in Ashland City. Both were members of the Tennessee National Guard.

Hundreds of Smyrna and Ashland City residents and families of other soldiers turned out at both sites to counter the message the Westboro Baptist members brought.

So many counterdemonstrators were gathered in Ashland City that police, sheriff's deputies and state troopers were brought in to control traffic and protect the protesters.

The church members held protesting permits, and counterprotesters in Smyrna turned their backs to Westboro Baptist members until time expired on the protest permits.

"If they were protesting the government, I might even join them," Danny Cotton, 56, said amid cries of "get out of our town" and "get out of our country."

"But for them to come during the worst time for this family ? it's just wrong."

If someone showed up at my friends funeral with that kind of agenda, I'd glady trade felony aggrevated assault for breaking those motherfvckers' faces

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Whaspe
BTW here's some history on this wacko Fred Phelps. Personally I think anyone who runs websites entitled godhatesfags, godhatesamerica shouldn't be labelled a Christian.

Yeah, it's interesting to note Phelp's history and ideology. A communist/dictator loving cult leader who bastardizes Christianity for his own personal gain.

Now hes a communist?

Isn't that... convenient?

Well, I'm not sure he himself is a communist but he sure did have some dealing with Saddam and Castro. Dealings that normal Americans wouldn't ever be involved in.

He also had some pretty close ties to Tipper and Al Gore. So lets be clear here - this nut was no right-winger by any stretch of the imagination.

Phelps is a wierd guy hes had affiliations with a lot of people including hard right groups. The only connections he appeared to have with Saddam were when his request to come to Baghdad and mock America was granted. I'm pretty sure Saddam only accepted his request because his country was being bombed to hell at the time. As for Castro... nothings been proved there except that he likes Castro's stance on homosexuality, which has evolved throughout the years.

"hard right groups"? Like?

His dealings with Castro and Saddam were anti-Americanism junkets for his to spew his filth and hatred of the US and gays.
His association with the Gores is not in question - clearly not a right-winger.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
"hard right groups"? Like?

His dealings with Castro and Saddam were anti-Americanism junkets for his to spew his filth and hatred of the US and gays.
His association with the Gores is not in question - clearly not a right-winger.

He's now planning on picketing Rehnquist's funeral.

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Not a rightwinger at all.

 

[Busithoth]

Originally posted by: halik
If someone showed up at my friends funeral with that kind of agenda, I'd glady trade felony aggrevated assault for breaking those motherfvckers' faces

QFT. My friend in the army asked me about this whole affair, but they were described as liberal anti-war protesters to him. I got all angry, then found out it was Phelps, and gave him the exculpitory information.

Halik, I hear you loud and clear, and agree 100%.

Shades of Grey, please try to find some BS newsmax link when throwing these nutjobs into the Gore camp. I understand it's what you'd like to believe, but what the hell...

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
"hard right groups"? Like?

His dealings with Castro and Saddam were anti-Americanism junkets for his to spew his filth and hatred of the US and gays.
His association with the Gores is not in question - clearly not a right-winger.

Most congregants recall an incident one Sunday morning when Phelps' infant son, Mark, began to cry during his sermon; Phelps responded by walking down from the pulpit, punching the baby in the face, and then returning to continue the sermon, to the horror of his congregants. Phelps' dismissal from the church came when a female congregant admitted that she had committed adultery. The next Sunday, Phelps' sermon revolved around the woman, repeatedly referring to her as a whore and encouraging the congregation to draw up an official "form" declaring her to be damned to Hell and excommunicated from the church. In response, the congregants voted to kick Phelps out of the church.

The only congregants to stand by Phelps were George Stutzman and the Hockenbargers, Charles, Karl, and Charles William (called Bill by fellow congregants), members of the Christian Identity sect of the Ku Klux Klan, and the men's families. In 1992, one of the men's granddaughters, Jennifer Hockenbarger, married Phelps' grandson Ben. Along with the Phelps, the Hockenbargers and Stutzman would become the founders of Westboro Baptist Church.

Yeah, the KKK is really a leftist group. So very left they're just to the right of Bush eh?

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
"hard right groups"? Like?

His dealings with Castro and Saddam were anti-Americanism junkets for his to spew his filth and hatred of the US and gays.
His association with the Gores is not in question - clearly not a right-winger.

He's now planning on picketing Rehnquist's funeral.

Text

Not a rightwinger at all.

sure he is.
so much so, rehnquist wasnt conservative enough for him.

 

[miketheidiot]

repost?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Whaspe
BTW here's some history on this wacko Fred Phelps. Personally I think anyone who runs websites entitled godhatesfags, godhatesamerica shouldn't be labelled a Christian.

Yeah, it's interesting to note Phelp's history and ideology. A communist/dictator loving cult leader who bastardizes Christianity for his own personal gain.

Now hes a communist?

Isn't that... convenient?

Well, I'm not sure he himself is a communist but he sure did have some dealing with Saddam and Castro. Dealings that normal Americans wouldn't ever be involved in.

He also had some pretty close ties to Tipper and Al Gore. So lets be clear here - this nut was no right-winger by any stretch of the imagination.

so what you were really saying is that he was a capitalist?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
"hard right groups"? Like?

His dealings with Castro and Saddam were anti-Americanism junkets for his to spew his filth and hatred of the US and gays.
His association with the Gores is not in question - clearly not a right-winger.

He's now planning on picketing Rehnquist's funeral.

Text

Not a rightwinger at all.

you're such a fool.

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
"hard right groups"? Like?

His dealings with Castro and Saddam were anti-Americanism junkets for his to spew his filth and hatred of the US and gays.
His association with the Gores is not in question - clearly not a right-winger.

Most congregants recall an incident one Sunday morning when Phelps' infant son, Mark, began to cry during his sermon; Phelps responded by walking down from the pulpit, punching the baby in the face, and then returning to continue the sermon, to the horror of his congregants. Phelps' dismissal from the church came when a female congregant admitted that she had committed adultery. The next Sunday, Phelps' sermon revolved around the woman, repeatedly referring to her as a whore and encouraging the congregation to draw up an official "form" declaring her to be damned to Hell and excommunicated from the church. In response, the congregants voted to kick Phelps out of the church.

The only congregants to stand by Phelps were George Stutzman and the Hockenbargers, Charles, Karl, and Charles William (called Bill by fellow congregants), members of the Christian Identity sect of the Ku Klux Klan, and the men's families. In 1992, one of the men's granddaughters, Jennifer Hockenbarger, married Phelps' grandson Ben. Along with the Phelps, the Hockenbargers and Stutzman would become the founders of Westboro Baptist Church.

Yeah, the KKK is really a leftist group. So very left they're just to the right of Bush eh?

The KKK isn't left or right and there are/were plenty of both sides that were/are part of the KKK. Just ask Byrd.
Anything else?

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: halik
If someone showed up at my friends funeral with that kind of agenda, I'd glady trade felony aggrevated assault for breaking those motherfvckers' faces

As would I.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: TallBill
thats why the military hates gays

This had nothing to do with gays except that the people protesting were saying that the soldiers defended a country that harbored gays. No soliders were gay (that anybody knew of). No gay family members. Just a bunch of fvcking asshat hatemongers dishonoring the fallen. Very sad! 🙁