anti-christian jeans

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sketcher
I'd like to see him market a line of ant-islam clothing. I'd wager that he'd be having a conversation with Theo Van Gogh before too long.

Very true, and this alone makes Islam truly evil.

It makes you evil for saying that asshole.

Why? It's an observation that people who are Muslim cannot tolerate criticism of their religion. They killed Theo van Gogh, they declared a fatwa against Salman Rushdie.. Muslims are the ones flying planes into buildings, hacking the heads off of people in the name of their god, and strapping on explosives to go blow themselves up around innocent people. NOBODY ELSE is doing this. So yes, indeed I do believe that Islam is evil.

Anyway, this is offtopic, so I'll stop now.

 

[Zanix]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sketcher
I'd like to see him market a line of ant-islam clothing. I'd wager that he'd be having a conversation with Theo Van Gogh before too long.

Very true, and this alone makes Islam truly evil.

It makes you evil for saying that asshole.

Why? It's an observation that people who are Muslim cannot tolerate criticism of their religion. They killed Theo van Gogh, they declared a fatwa against Salman Rushdie.. Muslims are the ones flying planes into buildings, hacking the heads off of people in the name of their god, and strapping on explosives to go blow themselves up around innocent people. NOBODY ELSE is doing this. So yes, indeed I do believe that Islam is evil.

Anyway, this is offtopic, so I'll stop now.

:shocked:

Nobody?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Ornery
"Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history."

I agree 100%, but his logo sucks, and I have no idea how either ties in with pants!

QFS (quoted for stupidity) referring to bolded phrase. What a tool.

I think you need to learn a little about history

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: shoRunner

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Ornery

"Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history."

I agree 100%, but his logo sucks, and I have no idea how either ties in with pants!

QFS (quoted for stupidity) referring to bolded phrase. What a tool.

Yep, God's will. No evil going on there! :roll:


Identifying Evil Religion

• Another hallmark of evil religion is the cruelty which is accorded to non-believers. The holy books of Christianity and Islam graphically describe a chamber of eternal torture prepared for all who fail to adhere to them.
  
  Those religions clearly declare that humans are deserving of eternal pain, and their believers go out of their way to emphasise that fate. Eternal torture, imagine: the cruelest of human dictators has never done such a thing to his opposition, but the ?loving? God of Christianity and Islam does that to myriads of people. The fact that people can live happily with the belief that a great percentage of mankind is going to end up in merciless eternal torture, and even praise their God for such ?justice?, is appalling; it highlights how those religions dehumanise their followers. This doctrine of eternal hell is surely one of those things which make a religion evil.

so i'm going to point to events that happened about a 1000 years ago because there is no possibity that the overall views the the religion have changed one bit...i bet there still there trying to burn down Jerusalem....moron :roll:

I just LOVE how you completely ignore the following quote, which happens to be true, shitferbrains. I judge a tree by its fruit, and the "fruit" of organized religion, Christian and others, is generally fvcked up, brainwashed, lives from birth to death. Some end up in war, some merely in mental turmoil or struggles with their neighbor's habits and government's laws. Man, ya just gotta love that, eh?

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: Zanix


So what does it take to make an organization "evil"?

I mean, we know that tennants of National Socialism are generally evil, but how do we seperate the "evil actions" of some from the base beliefs of the group?

I really wish I had the answer to that. My main objection in this thread was against calling Christianity evil. SinceI consider myself a Christian that characterization irks me. I don't claim that no harm has been done under the banner of Christianity, but evil people can distort good things to suit their purposes.[/quote]

I agree with ya Tbone.

Bolded for nugget of truth.

I see that bit of wisdom in most groups with any sort of power, regardless of good/evil orientation.

Socratic questioning FTW! [/quote]

I feel like pawn in your game It was a good discussion, it made me think. :thumbsup:

 

[Zanix]

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl


Never mind the fact that religion is usually just a conventient excuse and not the root cause of war at all. It's cooler to blame religion Ignorant, but cooler.

So what *is* the "root cause" of war?

I could name pride, greed, and stupidity for starters.

So none of those things are involved in religion either?

That wasn't the question. Of course they are, but you asked for root causes. They are some root causes for "Christians" to do evil. That doesn't make Christianity evil.

So what does it take to make an organization "evil"?

I mean, we know that tennants of National Socialism are generally evil, but how do we seperate the "evil actions" of some from the base beliefs of the group?

I really wish I had the answer to that. My main objection in this thread was against calling Christianity evil. SinceI consider myself a Christian that characterization irks me. I don't claim that no harm has been done under the banner of Christianity, but evil people can distort good things to suit their purposes.

I agree with ya Tbone.

Bolded for nugget of truth.

I see that bit of wisdom in most groups with any sort of power, regardless of good/evil orientation.

Socratic questioning FTW!

I feel like pawn in your game It was a good discussion, it made me think. :thumbsup:

Oh boy. Hell may have frozen over.

A philosophical disscussion has led to at least two people thinking deeply and understanding something and not trying to kill each other!!!

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Hopefully the jeans maker will die.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Hopefully the jeans maker will die.

lol, now there's the christian spirit we all know and love!

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Sketcher
I'd like to see him market a line of ant-islam clothing. I'd wager that he'd be having a conversation with Theo Van Gogh before too long.

Very true, and this alone makes Islam truly evil.

It makes you evil for saying that asshole.

Why? It's an observation that people who are Muslim cannot tolerate criticism of their religion. They killed Theo van Gogh, they declared a fatwa against Salman Rushdie.. Muslims are the ones flying planes into buildings, hacking the heads off of people in the name of their god, and strapping on explosives to go blow themselves up around innocent people. NOBODY ELSE is doing this. So yes, indeed I do believe that Islam is evil.

Anyway, this is offtopic, so I'll stop now.

You need to get out and research a bit more my friend. You seem to have a vendetta against Muslims and Islam.
You seem to imply that most if not all of the world atrocities are commited by muslims. I suppose North Vietnam or the Khmer Rouge were muslim too. How about the IRA? How about the abortion bombings. What about the ETA or Grapo in Spain. How about the Jewish Defense League or Kach/Kahane Chai. How about Gush Emunim Underground.What about Defending Shield. How about Israeli atrocities against Palestinians. The scores of people they murdered in Lebanon. Or the genocide commited by governments such as Israels in villages such as Jenin, Qana etc.

I'd say by that Judism was an evil religion. Hacking off heads? What do you think the Iraqis do when their country is invaded by a foriegn power that kills 100,000 of their people. Kiss them?

You need to open yourself up and absorb more information instead of one sided views.

 

[EvilYoda]

ooooh, sweet...I need a pair of these.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Ornery

"Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history."

I agree 100%, but his logo sucks, and I have no idea how either ties in with pants!

QFS (quoted for stupidity) referring to bolded phrase. What a tool.

Yep, God's will. No evil going on there! :roll:

The evil that man does in God's name has little to do with God or his will.

The evil done in God's name has to do with what is written in what is supposedly his Word. How is it that the good done in a god's name is accepted but the evil isn't? If you are going to pick and choose, then forget about good and evil entirely.

 

[NuclearNed]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Ornery

"Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history."

I agree 100%, but his logo sucks, and I have no idea how either ties in with pants!

QFS (quoted for stupidity) referring to bolded phrase. What a tool.

Yep, God's will. No evil going on there! :roll:

The evil that man does in God's name has little to do with God or his will.

The evil done in God's name has to do with what is written in what is supposedly his Word. How is it that the good done in a god's name is accepted but the evil isn't?

What is this evil of which you speak, and where is it in the Word? Are you talking about the Christian God, or someone else?

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Ornery

"Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history."

I agree 100%, but his logo sucks, and I have no idea how either ties in with pants!

QFS (quoted for stupidity) referring to bolded phrase. What a tool.

Yep, God's will. No evil going on there! :roll:

The evil that man does in God's name has little to do with God or his will.

The evil done in God's name has to do with what is written in what is supposedly his Word. How is it that the good done in a god's name is accepted but the evil isn't?

What is this evil of which you speak, and where is it in the Word? Are you talking about the Christian God, or someone else?

How about the brutal killings of gays based on the bible's command to put homosexuals to death? And the endorsements of slavery that were used for hundreds of years to justify it in the New World?

 

[Malak]

Wouldn't it be more accurate to call Christianity dis-organized religion?

 

[NuclearNed]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Ornery

"Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history."

I agree 100%, but his logo sucks, and I have no idea how either ties in with pants!

QFS (quoted for stupidity) referring to bolded phrase. What a tool.

Yep, God's will. No evil going on there! :roll:

The evil that man does in God's name has little to do with God or his will.

The evil done in God's name has to do with what is written in what is supposedly his Word. How is it that the good done in a god's name is accepted but the evil isn't?

What is this evil of which you speak, and where is it in the Word? Are you talking about the Christian God, or someone else?

How about the brutal killings of gays based on the bible's command to put homosexuals to death? And the endorsements of slavery that were used for hundreds of years to justify it in the New World?

Where in the Bible is a homosexual put to death?

Also, show me a verse in the Bible that endorses the practice of slavery.

 

[Brutuskend]

Figures...

 

[Bateluer]

I must be missing something. When is 50 bucks for a pair of jeans cheap? The Levi's Wranglers I usually pick cost between 20 and 30, depending on whether or not there is a sale or something going on.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
How about the brutal killings of gays based on the bible's command to put homosexuals to death? And the endorsements of slavery that were used for hundreds of years to justify it in the New World?

Read the bible and stop being yet another clueless bible-basher. About 95% of people like you just read some website of someone who read another website of someone with no reading comprehension.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Ornery

"Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history."

I agree 100%, but his logo sucks, and I have no idea how either ties in with pants!

QFS (quoted for stupidity) referring to bolded phrase. What a tool.

Yep, God's will. No evil going on there! :roll:

The evil that man does in God's name has little to do with God or his will.

The evil done in God's name has to do with what is written in what is supposedly his Word. How is it that the good done in a god's name is accepted but the evil isn't?

What is this evil of which you speak, and where is it in the Word? Are you talking about the Christian God, or someone else?

How about the brutal killings of gays based on the bible's command to put homosexuals to death? And the endorsements of slavery that were used for hundreds of years to justify it in the New World?

Where in the Bible is a homosexual put to death?
Also, show me a verse in the Bible that endorses the practice of slavery.

This was used by the South Africans {as well as others} as proof that god wanted the blacks to be slaves

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
This was used by the South Africans {as well as others} as proof that god wanted the blacks to be slaves

Of course there's no reason to believe that.

 

[NuclearNed]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Ornery

"Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history."

I agree 100%, but his logo sucks, and I have no idea how either ties in with pants!

QFS (quoted for stupidity) referring to bolded phrase. What a tool.

Yep, God's will. No evil going on there! :roll:

The evil that man does in God's name has little to do with God or his will.

The evil done in God's name has to do with what is written in what is supposedly his Word. How is it that the good done in a god's name is accepted but the evil isn't?

What is this evil of which you speak, and where is it in the Word? Are you talking about the Christian God, or someone else?

How about the brutal killings of gays based on the bible's command to put homosexuals to death? And the endorsements of slavery that were used for hundreds of years to justify it in the New World?

Where in the Bible is a homosexual put to death?

Also, show me a verse in the Bible that endorses the practice of slavery.

This was used by the South Africans {as well as others} as proof that god wanted the blacks to be slaves

What you are citing is not a Biblical passage, but rather tradition and/or custom that has evolved from corrupt people translating what the Bible says. You will probably agree that the two are not the same. The problem with Christianity is that many (most?) Christians keep screwing it up.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: Ornery

"Christianity, a "force of evil" that he blames for sparking wars throughout history."

I agree 100%, but his logo sucks, and I have no idea how either ties in with pants!

QFS (quoted for stupidity) referring to bolded phrase. What a tool.

Yep, God's will. No evil going on there! :roll:

The evil that man does in God's name has little to do with God or his will.

The evil done in God's name has to do with what is written in what is supposedly his Word. How is it that the good done in a god's name is accepted but the evil isn't?

What is this evil of which you speak, and where is it in the Word? Are you talking about the Christian God, or someone else?

How about the brutal killings of gays based on the bible's command to put homosexuals to death? And the endorsements of slavery that were used for hundreds of years to justify it in the New World?

Where in the Bible is a homosexual put to death?

Also, show me a verse in the Bible that endorses the practice of slavery.

This was used by the South Africans {as well as others} as proof that god wanted the blacks to be slaves

What you are citing is not a Biblical passage, but rather tradition and/or custom that has evolved from corrupt people translating what the Bible says. You will probably agree that the two are not the same. The problem with Christianity is that many (most?) Christians keep screwing it up.

Exactly. People have been reading into the bible what THEY want it to say since it's beginning. THAT is the biggest problem with religion IMO. They can use it to justify just about anything....

Also, I bolded the wrong part....

 

[preslove]

The swedes were major participants in the 30 years war. That's one of the worst religious wars of all time, killing at least a third of the german population over that time.

 

[Brutuskend]

As far as gays being put to death, people usually site Sodom and Gomorrah.

 

[ElFenix]

religion has never started wars. no, demogogues with their own reasoning used religion as a tool to to justify the war. if even that. it's like saying that guns kill people, rather than people killing people. that guy wouldn't be able to think his way out of a box.