Anthrax in Florida!

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MadRat

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Anthrax is a bacterium cultured from common soil. There are several strains. They can run tests to see if its military grade or common varieties. One case? Big deal. Hardly worth a national panic.
 

Tates

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From Encarta 2002



<< Anthrax, contagious disease of warm-blooded animals, including humans, caused by the bacterium Bacillus anthracis. One of the oldest known diseases, it was once epidemic and still appears in many world areas, but only sporadically in the western and southern United States. It was the first disease for which the causative organism was isolated, by C. J. Davaine in 1863, for which a pure culture was obtained, by Robert Koch in 1876, and for which an effective vaccine was developed, by Louis Pasteur in 1881.

Animals acquire the disease from drinking water draining from contaminated soil, in which the infectious bacteria may live for years; from eating infected carcasses and feedstuffs; and from the bites of bloodsucking insects. The disease, sometimes manifested by staggering, bloody discharge, convulsions, and suffocation, may be fatal almost immediately in acute cases and within three to five days in subacute cases. Death is caused by toxemia. The disease can be prevented by immunization, and in animals that have not been vaccinated, it can be treated with antibiotics.

Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2002. © 1993-2001 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.[/b]
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There was a case in Texas in 2000, and a case in Florida in 1974.

I hope this settles any rattled nerves.
 

jeffrey

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To all of those joking in this thread:

Link

"Tim O'Connor, spokesman for the Palm Beach health department, said officials believe the case is isolated and it is "very likely" to be fatal."

 

Nitemare

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<< SH*T. Thankfully anthrax is not...damn whats that word...skoorb losing his mind...um you know when you can pass on a disease to another person?

*Skoorb going back to grade 2*
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Contagious man contagious...maybe communicable..and yes it is very contagious. They just don't want to spread panic since it is in only one person. Believe me the guy will be quarantined and his last whereabouts will be thoroughly investigated.

or were you thinking cootiefied?
 

Jfur

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<< How the fluck is there an "isolated incidence"?? Someone just playing with some or something? >>



It is a common occurrence worldwide, even in the US
 

Eug

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Remember, anthrax is a disease, and is bound to pop up once in a while. That doesn't mean somebody's dropped an anthrax bomb on us.
 
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<< Is it me or a lot of people here like to blow things way out of proportion? >>

probably why it was small on the news.

i thought communicable=contagious :confused: is they be different?
 

syf3r

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taken directly from the cdc page linked eariler:

>Can anthrax be spread from person-to-person?
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>Direct person-to-person spread of anthrax is extremely unlikely to occur.
>Communicability is not a concern in managing or visiting with patients with inhalational anthrax.


that means that even those people who have the disease in their lungs are extremely unlikely to spread it to others...

syf3r.
 

ShadowHunter

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<< i thought communicable=contagious is they be different? >>



Dictionary.com:

com·mu·ni·ca·ble (k-myn-k-bl)
adj.
Transmittable between persons or species; contagious: communicable diseases.
Readily communicated: communicable ideas.
Talkative.


con·ta·gious (kn-tjs)
adj.
Of or relating to contagion.
Transmissible by direct or indirect contact; communicable: a contagious disease.
Capable of transmitting disease; carrying a disease: stayed at home until he was no longer contagious.
Spreading or tending to spread from one to another; infectious: a contagious smile.
 

meDave

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I'm sure there has been previous cases before but noone has been looking for it before thats why the cases
were so rare but now that everyone thinking about it now we will start finding more cases
 

Amused

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<< communicable. and afaik, it is. >>



No, it's not. It cannot easily be passed from one infected person to the next.

Anthrax is a naturally occuring disease folks. There have been 18 confirmed cases in this century. My guess is there have been at least just as many misdiagnosed cases.

One case does not mean anything. Were there more than one, than I'd be a bit worried.
 

jeffrey

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"Is it me or a lot of people here like to blow things way out of proportion?"

Would you feel different if the Antrax originated in Pocatello Idaho?? The story mentioned NC, my home and also Anands.


 

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"You're Anti, you're anti-social...da da da da da..........You're Anti, you're anti-social" -- those guys rock
 

dman

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Well, the terrorists were living in FL prior to the WTC attacks. Not far from Lantana (maybe 25mins). The story makes it seem like a coincidence but they surely aren't going to tell folks fear for your lives. I live right next door to lantana (literally on the border). This sucks even if it is coincidence.

I think I heard that even if you want anthrax vaccine you can NOT get it through normal medical channels. I think military folks can get the vaccine (under certain circumstances)--does anybody know?

[edit]BTW, don't mean to sound paranoid, but, just wanted to explain it is definitely scarier when it hits close to home like this. I want to believe this is one of those rare cases but the timing makes it seem much more threatening than if it happened 6mo's ago. Bottom Line, I'm not in a panic, but, it does have me a bit worried.[/edit]
 

dman

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I read up on it not being contagious. But, with a 60day incubation period do we know for CERTAIN that a terrorist did NOT release spores into a mall or some other populated area? It is within the realm of possibility. This could be the first case.. or it could be the last case for some time. We'll know for certain over the next few weeks.
 

Yzzim

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<< I read up on it not being contagious. But, with a 60day incubation period do we know for CERTAIN that a terrorist did NOT release spores into a mall or some other populated area? It is within the realm of possibility. This could be the first case.. or it could be the last case for some time. We'll know for certain over the next few weeks. >>



Many people have said it's an isolated case and I believe them. He came into the hospital on Oct 1st so we definitely would have had more people become sick by now.
 

tcsenter

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No big deal. There are still about a dozen cases of bubonic plague (Black Death) documented every few years. Don't start a freakin panic.
 

Lioness

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I believe the last case in the USA for "Inhalation" Anthrax was in 1969. Inhalation anthrax is the most deadly type of Anthrax. As noted by one post above, "Communicability is not a concern in managing or visiting with patients with inhalational anthrax." This is true. However, correct me if I'm wrong, the inhalation of Anthrax (in the air, not from the patient) is the type of Anthrax the government is most concerned with because it can kill thousands. It can be spread through a simple aerosal spray. This is also a reason why many "hairsprays" are being confiscated by security at airports.

Also keep in mind. I'm sure the government is on top of this. And at this time, I believe, we have labs that are working on increasing the vaccines of Anthrax at this time. If you noticed through the reports on television, these facilities are on high security at this time and disclosure of the places of these labs are not mentioned when asked by reporters.