Antec P182

brikis98

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I'm trying to figure out the best configuration of fans for my Antec P182. The available slots (all 120mm) are:

1. Rear
2. Top
3. Lower compartment
4. Middle of the case
5. Fan inside Tuniq Tower

My current configuration is:

1. Rear fan blowing OUT
2. No top fan. It just seemed to make noise and not affect cooling.
3. Lower compartment fan blowing air over the PSU (and pulling air across the hard drives). Essential.
4. Fan in the middle of the case blowing air across my GPU which has a passive Accelero S1 heatsink. This works great - GPU is <70C under load and SILENT.
5. Fan in Tuniq Tower blowing towards the back of the case - that is, towards the rear fan.

I get pretty decent temps, but I'm wondering if there is a more efficient configuration?

* Has anyone found the top fan to do anything but make extra noise? If so, which way was it blowing the air? If not, is it worth closing up that hole for more quiet or will that cause issues?
* Would it be worth to add another 120mm behind the cd drives to blow towards the back of the case, towards the RAM/HSF? I'd have to rig something up to hold it, but it shouldn't be hard.
* Any other suggestions?
 

Sheninat0r

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I'd say that's as good as it gets, but I'm not an expert on airflow. You could try ducting your airflow to get more concentrated cooling on the hotspots. Try covering the top blowhole and see if it makes a difference...?
 

covert24

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i would also like to know the best config for arranging fans inside this case. have the same one and my temps are a little high.
 

Tullphan

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I read somewhere where the TT was supposed to be mounted w/the fan blowing up. After rearranging mine to do so, putting the stock fan back in & using some IC Diamond, I didn't notice a thing. As a matter of fact, I think my temps increased a degree or 2.
I also swapped out the rear & top tri-cool & replaced it w/some Scythe Slipstreams...1200rpm. I put one in the upper hdd cage as well.
My temps w/an E6300 @ 3.15 are ~36c idle & ~46-48c stressed. I switched video cards...went from a stock eVGA 7900GT to an XFX 7900GT volt modded w/a Zalman 700cu cooler & the new gpu temps were 10c cooler than the old one...37c vs. 47c.
 

brikis98

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as an experiment, i put in every fan I had today for the following config (all fans are 120mm):

1. Rear fan blowing out.
2. Top fan blowing out.
3. Lower compartment fan blowing air over the PSU (and pulling air across the hard drives).
4. Fan in the middle of the case blowing air across my GPU which has a passive Accelero S1 heatsink.
5. Fan in Tuniq Tower blowing towards the back of the case - that is, towards the rear fan.
6. Fan behind the cd rack blowing air over the RAM and Tuniq Tower towards the rear of the case.

It seems to have dropped temps by 2-3 degrees from my previous config (which lacked fans 2 and 6), and since almost all fans are on low, is not any louder. Still, I'm not convinced this is the most efficient setup and am wondering if others have had better success with other configurations?
 

Riverhound777

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Here is what i'm using. Copied Brikis98 cept for part 6.
1. Rear fan blowing out.
2. Top fan blowing out.
3. Lower compartment fan blowing air over the PSU (and pulling air across the hard drives).
4. Fan in the middle of the case blowing air across my GPU which has a passive Accelero S1 heatsink.
5. Fan in Tuniq Tower blowing towards the back of the case - that is, towards the rear fan.
6. Fan in the front of the middle cage blowing back towards the other middle fan (Pull, push).
 

Nyati13

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Originally posted by: brikis98
Originally posted by: Doclife
If you want to install a 120mm fan in the top compartment below the CD drive, then look into the Scythe Kama bay

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835185020

neat, thanks. I think I can rig something up with extra drive rails, but if it doesn't work out, I might give this a shot.

The Kama Bay needs a bit of rigging to get it installed anyway. The 5.25 drive rails for the case don't match the screw holes on the Kama Bay.

I've currently got both rear and top as exhaust, the lower chamber fan for the HDs and PSU, and a lower front 120mm plus the upper front 120mm in the Kama Bay as intakes, plus a 120mm on the heatsink blowing straight at the rear exhaust.


A bit noisy, but not as bad as my old system.
 

chronox

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What is a good case temperature? I have a P182 with a E8400 on stock cooling with the following case temps: idle/load = 40/50C
My fans are currently located:
1. Rear fan blowing out
2. Lower compartment fan pulling air in over PSU and out
3. Middle compartment fan in front of HDDs pulling air in

Slightly off-topic: I don't know why I put my hard drives in the middle compartment. I guess I was paranoid about having them vertical. Can I re-position them to be vertical now or are they "set" in the horizontal position for good?
 

Raider1284

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No they arent "set" in a horizontal position. Its okay for hardrives to move around. Think of your laptop hardrive that get rotated and rattled all of the time. As far as I know they are more or less the same hardware.

To be safe I would move them when the computer is off but it certainly wont hurt them to orient them a differnt way.
 

Tullphan

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Originally posted by: chronox
What is a good case temperature? I have a P182 with a E8400 on stock cooling with the following case temps: idle/load = 40/50C
My fans are currently located:
1. Rear fan blowing out
2. Lower compartment fan pulling air in over PSU and out
3. Middle compartment fan in front of HDDs pulling air in

Slightly off-topic: I don't know why I put my hard drives in the middle compartment. I guess I was paranoid about having them vertical. Can I re-position them to be vertical now or are they "set" in the horizontal position for good?

Aren't those temps a tad high for an E8400 if it's not overclocked?
I think i'd move those hdd's to the lower compartment, myself & keep the middle compartment fan.
Did you remove your top fan?
 

idiotekniQues

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i have only 4 fans going.

1. Rear Fan Exhaust - Scythe
2. Top Fan 1600 RPM Scythe - Exhaust
3. TR Ultra 120x FAN blowing towards rear exhaust - Scythe
4. Lower bay fan pushing towards PSU and pulling over Hard drives - stock Antec Fan on Medium.

i find my hard drive temps, my GC temps and my cpu tems are all good.

I wouldnt say my GPU is super cool. it idles in the high 50's but i have rivatuner to kick in 100% fan over 62C and playing 2142 for an hour the, the 8800gts core temp peaks at 71 which is fine.

oh also i have 3HD in the bottom bay and 2 HD in the middle drive bay. 2 DVD-RW in the top bay.
 

chronox

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Originally posted by: Tullphan
Originally posted by: chronox
What is a good case temperature? I have a P182 with a E8400 on stock cooling with the following case temps: idle/load = 40/50C
My fans are currently located:
1. Rear fan blowing out
2. Lower compartment fan pulling air in over PSU and out
3. Middle compartment fan in front of HDDs pulling air in

Slightly off-topic: I don't know why I put my hard drives in the middle compartment. I guess I was paranoid about having them vertical. Can I re-position them to be vertical now or are they "set" in the horizontal position for good?

Aren't those temps a tad high for an E8400 if it's not overclocked?
I think i'd move those hdd's to the lower compartment, myself & keep the middle compartment fan.
Did you remove your top fan?

Yes, I disconnected the top fan and moved it to the middle compartment fan mount. I'm probably going to move my hard drives to the lower compartment to improve the airflow.

The temps I gave are for the Case, not the CPU. Are they too high? I've thought the case temps were but really don't know what temps to expect for either the Case or CPU.
 

Tullphan

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Originally posted by: chronox
Originally posted by: Tullphan
Originally posted by: chronox
What is a good case temperature? I have a P182 with a E8400 on stock cooling with the following case temps: idle/load = 40/50C
My fans are currently located:
1. Rear fan blowing out
2. Lower compartment fan pulling air in over PSU and out
3. Middle compartment fan in front of HDDs pulling air in

Slightly off-topic: I don't know why I put my hard drives in the middle compartment. I guess I was paranoid about having them vertical. Can I re-position them to be vertical now or are they "set" in the horizontal position for good?

Aren't those temps a tad high for an E8400 if it's not overclocked?
I think i'd move those hdd's to the lower compartment, myself & keep the middle compartment fan.
Did you remove your top fan?

Yes, I disconnected the top fan and moved it to the middle compartment fan mount. I'm probably going to move my hard drives to the lower compartment to improve the airflow.

The temps I gave are for the Case, not the CPU. Are they too high? I've thought the case temps were but really don't know what temps to expect for either the Case or CPU.

Download Core Temp & see what your CPU temps are...i'm curious. :)
 

superstition

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Because of my desk, I can't have the P180 sitting upright.

1. I have a Thermaltake SilentWheel in the bottom area blowing onto the PSU and drawing air from the hard drive. My SATA drive was running extremely hot in the lower cage so I moved it to the middle area (I removed the middle section).
2. Stock front intake fan blowing onto the SATA drive, low speed. I've found the intake fan is really important to bring cool air in, despite what many others have said.
3. Stock exhaust fan, low speed.
4. 140mm AeroCool Streamliner fan mounted with electrical tape on the top of my Tuniq and the metal top drive area. This fan is pointed toward the northbridge and also gets the Tuniq to some degree. The P35-DS3L passive heatsink really needs a fan blowing onto it.
5. Tuniq fan going to the back, low speed.
6. Zalman VF-700 copper GPU heatsink on my 6800GS.

Not only are the temperatures excellent, the noise level is very low. I have to decide what to do about the optical drive, though, because right now I am only using an external firewire unit and can't boot from it.

When I was running things in vertical mode I used a stock Antec fan on medium speed blowing onto the northbridge, but I think the AeroCool works better with less noise. I've also found that the top exhaust fan doesn't seem to be important.
 

chronox

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Originally posted by: Tullphan
Originally posted by: chronox
Originally posted by: Tullphan
Originally posted by: chronox
What is a good case temperature? I have a P182 with a E8400 on stock cooling with the following case temps: idle/load = 40/50C
My fans are currently located:
1. Rear fan blowing out
2. Lower compartment fan pulling air in over PSU and out
3. Middle compartment fan in front of HDDs pulling air in

Slightly off-topic: I don't know why I put my hard drives in the middle compartment. I guess I was paranoid about having them vertical. Can I re-position them to be vertical now or are they "set" in the horizontal position for good?

Aren't those temps a tad high for an E8400 if it's not overclocked?
I think i'd move those hdd's to the lower compartment, myself & keep the middle compartment fan.
Did you remove your top fan?

Yes, I disconnected the top fan and moved it to the middle compartment fan mount. I'm probably going to move my hard drives to the lower compartment to improve the airflow.

The temps I gave are for the Case, not the CPU. Are they too high? I've thought the case temps were but really don't know what temps to expect for either the Case or CPU.

Download Core Temp & see what your CPU temps are...i'm curious. :)

Sorry for the delay...I've been a little busy and just got Core Temp. My temperatures are (at idle):

Tj_max: 105C
Core 0: 45C
Core 1: 47C

Core 0 changes from 44C-45C while Core 1 changes from 45C-48C range on idle. Are these temps I posted accurate?
 

chronox

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Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
God I hope not, if so, you're idling where some people are loading. Thats fairly warm for idles.

That makes me worry :(

I ran Orthos in "blend" for 20 minutes and the load temps were 65C for both cores.

Edit: I just downloaded Real Temp 2.24 and get the following IDLE temps: 37C/39C. I've read that Real Temp and Core Temp use different Tj_maxes which results in the different temperatures. I guess I'll have to do more reading to learn which is more accurate.

 

Tullphan

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You might wanna either check out your hsf to make sure it's on there good or get an aftermarket hsf.
Heck, there's always the possibility you got a hot running chip.
 

Nafets

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I just bought an Antec P182 @ Microcenter. I had the same thoughts and questions as the OP did. So I spent some time and did some very basic airflow and temperature testing.

Hardware used;
E6320 @ 2.8GHz (Lapped)
Scythe Ninja (Unlapped)
8800GT 512MB w/Accelero S1 Rev. 2
Samsung HD250HJ 250GB 7200RPM SATA-300 8MB
Corsair HX620W

Notes about case config;
-Upper and lower hard drive bays have been removed
-Hard drive is suspended in the area where the lower hard drive bay was located
-Front plastic fan grill covers have been removed
-Airflow escape paths and holes have all been sealed with duct tape such as the various small holes and vents, water cooling ports, Tri-Cool switch area, vents around the PSU area, entire level between the PSU compartment and motherboard compartment
-Airflow enters the upper compartment (motherboard) only through the filtered front 120mm case fan vent (where the upper hard drive bay was located) and through the six vented PCI slot covers in the back
-Airflow enters the lower compartment (hard drive/PSU) only through the filtered front 120mm case fan vent (where the lower hard drive bay was located)
-There are very minor unsealable airflow paths around the DVD-R/W drive in front and between the upper and lower compartments where wiring is run through.
-Test were run with the front door closed; The airflow restriction of the front door is very small; While open both exhaust fans run at about 20RPM higher; This indicates very good airflow through the vents both sides and throught the bottom of the plastic front panel cover

Fans used in testing;
A. (Cpu) Yate Loon D12SL-12 120mm @ 1150RPM - Speed tightly maintained
B. (Exhaust Rear) Yate Loon D12SL-12 120mm @ 1150RPM - Speed tightly maintained
C. (Exhaust Top) Scythe S-Flex SFF21F 120mm @ 1150RPM - Speed tightly maintained
D. (Gpu) Yate Loon D12SL-12 120mm @ 1330RPM - Voltage maintained, but speed varies when noted

Computer was loaded for 30 minutes using both Orthos (Blend Test) and Furmark

All temperatures are in Celsius and were recorded from Speedfan
Sys - System
Nb - Northbridge
Hdd - Hard drive
Cpu - CPU Core
Gpu - GPU Core
Gpua - GPU Ambient

Test #1 - Fans used - A, B, D
Airflow description; Cpu fan mounted on Ninja blowing to rear, Rear exhaust fan blowing out, Top exhaust vent blocked off, Gpu fan mounted on Accelero S1 Rev. 2 blowing onto heatsink

Ambient 22.9
Sys 39
Nb 44
Hdd 30
Cpu 50
Gpu 50
Gpua 40

Test #2 - Fans used - A, B, C, D
Airflow description; Cpu fan mounted on Ninja blowing to rear, Rear exhaust fan blowing out, Top exhaust fan blowing out, Gpu fan mounted on Accelero S1 Rev. 2 blowing onto heatsink

Ambient 22.9
Sys 39
Nb 41
Hdd 29
Cpu 47
Gpu 49
Gpua 38

Test #3 - Fans used - A, B, C, D - Notes! - D @ 1450RPM
Airflow description; Cpu fan mounted on Ninja blowing to top, Rear exhaust fan blowing out, Top exhaust fan blowing out, Gpu fan mounted on Accelero S1 Rev. 2 blowing onto heatsink

Ambient 22.5
Sys 37
Nb 42
Hdd 29
Cpu 47
Gpu 48
Gpua 38

Test #4 - Fans used - A, C, D - Notes! - D @ 1410RPM
Airflow description; Cpu fan mounted on Ninja blowing to top, Rear exhaust vent blocked off, Top exhaust fan blowing out, Gpu fan mounted on Accelero S1 Rev. 2 blowing onto heatsink

Ambient 22.3
Sys 38
Nb 42
Hdd 29
Cpu 47
Gpu 49
Gpua 38

Temperature rise per test in degrees Celsius - Lower is better; Best is underlined; Max To min is the difference between the highest and lowest temperature rise
Sys---------#1-16.1 #2-16.1 #3-14.5 #4-15.7 Max To Min-1.6
Nb----------#1-21.1 #2-18.1 #3-19.5 #4-19.7 Max To Min-3
Hdd---------#1-7.1 _#2-6.1 _#3-6.5 _#4-6.7 _Max To Min-1
Cpu---------#1-27.1 #2-24.1 #3-24.5 #4-24.7 Max To Min-3
Gpu---------#1-27.1 #2-26.1 #3-25.5 #4-26.7 Max To Min-1.6
Gpua--------#1-17.1 #2-15.1 #3-15.5 #4-15.7 Max To Min-2

My thoughts and conclusions
It pretty much comes out as a wash really. The greatest difference in temperatures was with the Northbridge area and the CPU, being 3 degrees or a ~6% difference. With hotter components (Quad core CPU, SLI or Crossfire GPU) or with much lower/much higher fan speeds these various configurations would most likely differentiate themselves in greater fashion.

While it didn't change overall values too much, it was interesting to see in Tests #3 and #4 that fan D (Gpu) ran at greater speeds. I figure this is most likely due to being assisted from fan A (Cpu) which was blowing towards the top exhaust, creating a nice vertical air path and reducing the resistance of fan D (Gpu).

The basis for my testing was to set the fans at speeds I would most likely operate my computer with during day to day usage. At the listed speeds noise output is fairly quiet and easily bearable during general internet use, and unnoticable during gaming with headphones. All the while cooling is very competent, and never reaches a point of harming system stability, even while overclocked.

There are many other ways to set up fans in the P182, and the ways I've shown are very simplistic and don't even come close to exploring all the possibilities that are available with this case. For me it comes down to what's the best cooling performance I can get with a minimal amount of noise. For others, you really just need to do the testing yourself, with whatever variety of components you can configure.
 

DerwenArtos12

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Originally posted by: chronox
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
God I hope not, if so, you're idling where some people are loading. Thats fairly warm for idles.

That makes me worry :(

I ran Orthos in "blend" for 20 minutes and the load temps were 65C for both cores.

Edit: I just downloaded Real Temp 2.24 and get the following IDLE temps: 37C/39C. I've read that Real Temp and Core Temp use different Tj_maxes which results in the different temperatures. I guess I'll have to do more reading to learn which is more accurate.

65C isn't bad for a stock cooler and it's below the thermal threshold but, it would be in your best interest to get some kind of aftermarket cooler and bring that down some.