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Antec P-160 Case Front Usb Is Pissing me off!@111

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pcman83

Senior member
Hey guys,

I really dont know what to do about this issue. I have called antec and they sent me a new swivel front mount (I had to pay for it because i was trying to rewire the front usb). Here is the issue. I just got the replacement and installed it. Hooked up my Sandisk cruzer and it says usb device not recognized (usb 2.0). I hook up my old sony camera and it works with no issues (USB 1.0). I know this is wired wrong and it is not my doing. Here is the current wiring of my replacement.

N/C---White---Yellow---Grey
Red---Green--Orange--Black

On antecs website this is how it says the case is wired

"What is the Firewire and USB pin configuration for P160?"
USB pin1 VCC red pin2 VCC - pin3 D- green pin4 D- white pin5 D+ orange pin6 D+ yellow pin7 ground black pin8 ground black pin9 block pin10 empty.

Hmmm.... That says 8 total wires? Why do I have only 7????

Here is some more info about what the wires do:
From : http://www.antec-inc.com/specs/ezusb.html

Wire Color Code
COLOR: CONNECT TO:
RED,ORANGE POWER, VCC, SVCC, +5V
WHITE, YELLOW P-, DATA-, SBD-
GREEN, GREY P+, DATA+, SBD+
BLACK, BLUE, BROWN GROUND, GRND, GND

"What is the typical pin configuration of the Antec USB connector?"
The Antec USB connector follows the Intel standard layout. Majority of the motherboards follow the same standard as well. Intel Standard 10pin Layout

Pin 1 = Power Pin 2 = Power
Pin 3 = Data - Pin 4 = Data -
Pin 5 = Data + Pin 6 = Data +
Pin 7 = Ground Pin 8 = Ground
Pin 9 = Key or Blocked pin Pin 10 = Ground

Taken From
http://www.antec.com/us/support_productInfo_details.php?ProdID=81600#

That is not how mine is wired at all. Also i know this is not the firewire connector. The firewire has a blue wire and a thick white wire.

Does anyone else have this case and have the same issues?

I have even attached pictures of the connector:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/pc_man83/usb2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/pc_man83/usb1.jpg

What should I do, This is a replacement and i had the same issues with the original.

Please help me.
 
all you have to do is plug the firewire into one (forget which, just test between the two) and the usb into the other. theyre near the right of the pci slots.
 
Originally posted by: Heen05
all you have to do is plug the firewire into one (forget which, just test between the two) and the usb into the other. theyre near the right of the pci slots.
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What are you talking about?? I know how to plug them in...
 
Sorry, I won't be able to get my digital camera back until tommorrow, I'll post pics sometime in the late afternoon. If it makes any difference, I have a P-160wf, but the only difference between the two is the window and an added fan, I highly doubt it should have different usb connectors than yours.
 
The cable shown in your photo matches precisely with the info on Antec's P160 page for what the P160's USB cable looks like. To wit:

USB
pin1 VCC red
pin2 VCC -
pin3 D- green
pin4 D- white
pin5 D+ orange
pin6 D+ yellow
pin7 ground black
pin8 ground black
pin9 block
pin10 empty

Ignore the EasyUSB. You have a P160, not an EasyUSB. If the cable were "wired wrong," your USB wouldn't work at all.

If your USB is running at 1.1 speed, then I'm not too surprised... seen this one before. Start by going to Device Manager and looking at the USB stuff. If you don't see "Enhanced" or "2.0" in the description of at least some of the USB root hubs, then do an Uninstall of ALL of the USB stuff in Device Manager, have it re-scan for hardware, and aim it at Windows Update for the drivers when it wants to know where to look for them. Failing that, you can try Intel's latest INFs from here, assuming this is for your P5P800. But do the Uninstall, it's key.

Good luck! 🙂
 
Originally posted by: mechBgon
The cable shown in your photo matches precisely with the info on Antec's P160 page for what the P160's USB cable looks like. To wit:

USB
pin1 VCC red
pin2 VCC -
pin3 D- green
pin4 D- white
pin5 D+ orange
pin6 D+ yellow
pin7 ground black
pin8 ground black
pin9 block
pin10 empty

Ignore the EasyUSB. You have a P160, not an EasyUSB. If the cable were "wired wrong," your USB wouldn't work at all.

If your USB is running at 1.1 speed, then I'm not too surprised... seen this one before. Start by going to Device Manager and looking at the USB stuff. If you don't see "Enhanced" or "2.0" in the description of at least some of the USB root hubs, then do an Uninstall of ALL of the USB stuff in Device Manager, have it re-scan for hardware, and aim it at Windows Update for the drivers when it wants to know where to look for them. Failing that, you can try Intel's latest INFs from here, assuming this is for your P5P800. But do the Uninstall, it's key.

Good luck! 🙂
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Thanks man but it didnt help at all. First I know its nothing to do with the actual usb on the mainboard. Because i have a header hooked up that came with the motherboard and it works at usb 2.0 with no problems. Now if you look at the usb pin thing you posted that shows 8 wires. I have no Pin 2. That is my problem.
 
Hey, I have a case where the connectors came labeled wrong. I toasted my 256MB Cruzer Mini during the process of figuring out what they SHOULD be and re-labeling them.
 
Yes, the connector has the right wires, but often you have to rearrange the contacts in the shell to match with the pins on your mobo's header. It looks like your connector would be properly wired for my Abit mobo and most others. One VCC+ wire can cover both front jacks. If you look, you will see that the two jacks' VCC pins will be bonded (connected together) there - it is a bit chintzy though, for a top brand like Antec. Actually you can get away with only six wires if you bond the ground and shield wires together - I suppose they just haven't thought of that yet... 😉.
. As another mentioned, you may not have the USB 2.0 driver installed for all ports - and on some mobos you can have both USB 1 and USB 2 ports - some are driven from the main chipset and others are driven by a supplementary chip. If your mobo manual says all ports are USB 2, then you just need to update the drivers.

.bh.
 
Originally posted by: Zepper
Yes, the connector has the right wires, but often you have to rearrange the contacts in the shell to match with the pins on your mobo's header. It looks like your connector would be properly wired for my Abit mobo and most others. One VCC+ wire can cover both front jacks. If you look, you will see that the two jacks' VCC pins will be bonded (connected together) there - it is a bit chintzy though, for a top brand like Antec. Actually you can get away with only six wires if you bond the ground and shield wires together - I suppose they just haven't thought of that yet... 😉.
. As another mentioned, you may not have the USB 2.0 driver installed for all ports - and on some mobos you can have both USB 1 and USB 2 ports - some are driven from the main chipset and others are driven by a supplementary chip. If your mobo manual says all ports are USB 2, then you just need to update the drivers.

.bh.
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Zepper It is not a problem with my drivers its the wiring. The same header works fine if i hook up the rear usb connecter that comes with the game port with my motherboard. Its not the drivers its not the drivers.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11..

How would i rearrange these?

 
Originally posted by: pcman83
Originally posted by: Zepper
Yes, the connector has the right wires, but often you have to rearrange the contacts in the shell to match with the pins on your mobo's header. It looks like your connector would be properly wired for my Abit mobo and most others. One VCC+ wire can cover both front jacks. If you look, you will see that the two jacks' VCC pins will be bonded (connected together) there - it is a bit chintzy though, for a top brand like Antec. Actually you can get away with only six wires if you bond the ground and shield wires together - I suppose they just haven't thought of that yet... 😉.
. As another mentioned, you may not have the USB 2.0 driver installed for all ports - and on some mobos you can have both USB 1 and USB 2 ports - some are driven from the main chipset and others are driven by a supplementary chip. If your mobo manual says all ports are USB 2, then you just need to update the drivers.

.bh.
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Zepper It is not a problem with my drivers its the wiring. The same header works fine if i hook up the rear usb connecter that comes with the game port with my motherboard. Its not the drivers its not the drivers.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11..

How would i rearrange these?
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It could be tor header on your mobo that is bad. The connector used to hook up those ports is an industry standard. I doubt that that could be messed up unless your cables got screwed up or something.
 
its not bad I tried another connector hooked up to it. And it worked no issues. Ill try it when i get home but I doubt it very much. You know that thing that comes with your motherboard. It has two usb ports on it and it mounts where your cards go like video etc. That works fine in the port.!!!!!!!!
 
Well obviously your connector is wired right for the standard, so it's your motherboard that's the odd man out. What is the pin layout on your board?
 
its not the intel standard.

Look above. That is how my board is supposed to be.

Pin 1 = Power Pin 2 = Power
Pin 3 = Data - Pin 4 = Data -
Pin 5 = Data + Pin 6 = Data +
Pin 7 = Ground Pin 8 = Ground
Pin 9 = Key or Blocked pin Pin 10 = Ground


But I DONT HAVE A PIN2 THERE IS NO PIN.
 
have no Pin 2. That is my problem.
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And in Antec's pinout, there is no wire listed for Pin 2 either. It has seven wires just like they said.

The wire that you think is missing is just a 5V wire. The front module can get 5V power elsewhere too. +5V power from Pin 1 is the same as +5V power from Pin 2, same difference. Now, if you have USB 2.0 working but it reverts to USB 1.1 speed on your front ports, then it's wired right, it just isn't USB 2.0-compliant.

Basically, you can't have it wired wrong, and still have USB work at all. Think about it. If you had the power and ground mixed up, stuff would go *poof* when plugged in. But it doesn't. If you had the data wires crossed up, the devices wouldn't be able to function or be recognized. But they can, just at 1.1 speeds is all. If you had no power wire where you need one (which is your theory) then stuff would not get power, and therefore not work OR detect, at least on one of the two ports. But that isn't the case, it is being powered and recognized, just not able to hit USB 2.0 speeds.

Sorry to see your troubles, it appears that the Antec cable, although wired as spec'ed, is non-USB2.0-compliant. Or else your USB controllers are extra-fussy. 🙁





 
Looking at your photos of the cable, it doesn't appear to be shielded, nor are the data pair twisted, it looks like they just ran the wires through a tube for neatness and called it a day. That's what I'd be suspicious of, that their cable doesn't meet USB 2.0 design and in this case it actually is mattering.

/me whaps Antec, figure it out guys 😛
 
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Looking at your photos of the cable, it doesn't appear to be shielded, nor are the data pair twisted, it looks like they just ran the wires through a tube for neatness and called it a day. That's what I'd be suspicious of, that their cable doesn't meet USB 2.0 design and in this case it actually is mattering.

/me whaps Antec, figure it out guys 😛
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Hey now, I have a P160 myself(one of the first ones even), and it works just fine at USB 2.0 speeds. I highly doubt it's their wiring.
 
Take an ohmmeter to it - check all the lines from the contact in the jack on the front to the contact in the shell on the other end - if there is some kind of header connector on the front panel end, maker sure it is on correctily too. One or more of the wires or solder joints is probably gimpy. In that case they need to send you another - or just fageddabout it and order a front ports panel from SVC (Silverstone SST-FP31) $12. plus cheap First Class mail shipping. Or $8. from geeks.com plus about $7. ground shipping.
. What a PITA - from the looks of it, it should work. Just have them send you another - tell 'em it better be good this time or they'll be reimbursing you for buying a 3rd party ports panel...

You can rearrange the contacts by lifting the little plastic ear at each contact that holds the contact in with a jeweller's screw driver or a small blade knife (Xacto etc.) and the contact just slides out the back.

.bh.
 
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