Antec 500 Watt Basiq for $9.99 AMIR and Antec Solo for $39.99 AMIR

Rockhound1

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Here are a couple of good deals if you have a Fry's located near you.

Antec 500 Watt Basiq for $49.99 - $40 MIR = $9.99

Antec Solo for $69.99 - $30 MIR = $39.99
 

Preyhunter

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Originally posted by: nyker96
how diff is the Basiq to EW series? are they comparable or no?

Basiq:
1 year warranty
ATX12V 2.01

EarthWatts:
3 year warranty
ATX12V 2.2
80+ certified (more efficient)

Both have active PFC and dual +12V outputs.
 

Zap

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Solo is a great case - my current favorite for a compact, quiet system.

The Basiq is made by Fortron (FSP) and EarthWatts by Seasonic. EarthWatts is considered "better" quality.
 

Rockhound1

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Still, an Antec Basiq 500 watt PSU for $10 AMIR, that's a pretty good deal. If I hadn't just picked up an Antec Trio 430 watt PSU for $15 AMIR, I would be in for this deal. Never hurts having a good-quality PSU available as a backup. I just can't justify having two PSUs laying around right now. I am trying to save my money for a motherboard/processor upgrade later this summer. Visiting this forum is making it hard... :)
 

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Fortron Source are actually a fairly decent PSU manufacturer, or at least they used to be. Seasonic is of course Seasonic (though Seasonic manufacture didn't prevent odd issues from manifesting with various Corsair and Antec power supplies). I had presumed the Antec Basiqs to be the new 'SP' power supplies -- which had become rather unreliable towards the end of that line. Knowing they're FSP might sway me towards trying them out.

I wish the Basiq and TruePower Trio power supplies would show up online at these prices. Admittedly I can't even afford a $20AR Antec Neo HE...
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: Winterpool
I had presumed the Antec Basiqs to be the new 'SP' power supplies

Thankfully they are not Smart Power units. Don't remember what OEM made the Smart Powers, but it wasn't FSP AFAIK.

Pretty darn good for $10 I'd say.
 

Captante

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I bought one of these onsale for $29 at CC a couple months ago to replace my daughters failed Antec Smartpower 400 watt & aside from being a bit noisy its been working fine ... at $10 you con't go wrong with this deal!
 

nyker96

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Originally posted by: Preyhunter
Originally posted by: nyker96
how diff is the Basiq to EW series? are they comparable or no?

Basiq:
1 year warranty
ATX12V 2.01

EarthWatts:
3 year warranty
ATX12V 2.2
80+ certified (more efficient)

Both have active PFC and dual +12V outputs.

Thanks I guess I'll pass on this one.
 

TrentSteel

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Good prices on both. I actually prefer my Solo to my P180, the latter of which is just a pain to work in.

And yes, Fortron used to be an excellent maker of PSU's, but that was something like 8 years ago. I'm not sure if they are as good as they used to be. Anyone know for sure?
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: TrentSteel
And yes, Fortron used to be an excellent maker of PSU's, but that was something like 8 years ago. I'm not sure if they are as good as they used to be. Anyone know for sure?

I believe they are just as good, however 8 years ago most people I knew were using the PSU that came with generic beige cases. I think it isn't that their quality slipped, just that we as consumers are now (thanks to good folk like JonnyGURU) more knowledgeable about these things.

So, FSP PSUs are still better than most of the crud that comes bundled with cases (except in situations where the FSP PSU is the one being bundle).
 

Lithan

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Fortron got famous because they put 500watt parts in a 350watt PSU (never did find out why) and Toms did a PSU stress test and found that their 350model PSU was stable @ 530watt load. Beating out all but a couple PSU's including several 500watt+ models.

That said, they use decent sized heatsinks, quality (but not absolute top notch) electronics, and are one of maybe 5-10 manufacturers that didnt LIE about what the PSU can do. (99% of 400+ watt PSU's couldnt sustain their rated load if their lives depended on it. Look up the UL labs codes and they're mostly 300-350watt parts).

That has changed somewhat. Fortron now ranks by PEAK output. So the actual output (which they also list if you look at the specs) is usually 50watts less than what it is sold as. At least they do that. That said, they used to be the cheapest quality PSU available. That may not be the case any more. Their high end models are considerably more than they used to be. My current PSU is a 500watt (450watt actual) I paid $70 for. Back in the day I had one of the 530watt 350watters that cost me $40, and upgraded from that to their top of the line 530watt for ~$130.

Now their top of the line sells for $250 and their 550 (probably the smallest PSU worth buying anymore) is almost $100.


But for $10? It's a no brainer. Wish I had a frys near me.
 

Tullphan

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I've had a couple of Fortron PSU's...Blue Storms I think?
Anyhow, I never had a minutes problem w/either one of them.
I wish I could say that about this HX520 that i'm using now.
 

Lithan

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Yes, mines a blue storm. 500. Works fine, but 500 IS a peak rating, like many manufacturers use these days, not a sustained rating.

HX... sounds like a thermaltake to me... yeah. Thermaltakes are bad. Really bad. They take 250watt and 300watt HEC's and Channelwell's (not bad PSU's if you expect 250-300watts from them) label them 450-600watts and resell em for four times what the generic brand models sold for.

Google Underwriters Lab and look up the UL code on their site (starts with e and found under the big UL on label) to see what internals your PSU actually has.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: Lithan
That has changed somewhat. Fortron now ranks by PEAK output. So the actual output (which they also list if you look at the specs) is usually 50watts less than what it is sold as.

You may be thinking of the AX line. Back when these things were being posted on Hot Deals, most came to the conclusion that the Fortron PSUs that were "better" had part numbers starting with FSP while the part numbers starting with AX were lower end.

Anyways, I still have several Fortron PSUs, an FSP400-60GLN, a 300W SFX model (can't think of model number off hand) and one or two 200-250W antique units. They all still work, and I've flogged the first two units pretty good and they still work.
 

JRKIO

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A cap in my old PSU popped so I bought this Basiq today. It has no 8-pin connector for my motherboard so I'm taking it back tomorrow.
 

nartac

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Originally posted by: JRKIO
A cap in my old PSU popped so I bought this Basiq today. It has no 8-pin connector for my motherboard so I'm taking it back tomorrow.

most motherboards will take 4-pins instead. Make sure to read the mobo manual prior to returning it.
 

jiffer

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I bought one of these power supplies on Monday (3/24), and the rebate form says it only applies to purchases made on 3/24. This makes it a one-day special instead of a two-day special--unless someone can find a different rebate form. A similar rebate is being offered at Outpost.com, but it is good for purchases made on 3/25 as well as 3/24. Some rebates are good for purchases made at Fry's stores as well as Outpost.com, and this might be one of those rebates. However, the link to the rebate form doesn't work. Can someone find out what's going on?

http://shop4.outpost.com/produ...mkbXMlt7ttvTVasg99BOhA
 

QuixoticOne

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I just noticed the same problem when filling out the rebate form I got at the B&M store,
it says it is valid on 03/24/08 - 03/24/08 whereas I purchased the item on the subsequent day.
At the time I purchased it I was advised there was a currently valid $40 rebate for which the the 03/24/08 rebate form printed out. I have not found any rebate form on outpost.com, so I am not able to see if that form is valid for B&M purchases over those two days.

Did you make any progress resolving this issue?

I also just purchased an Norton Anti Virus product at Fry's B&M based on the sales assurance that it has a $50 rebate which I qualify for. Apparently they stopped giving out rebate forms at the B&M stores and they just have a rebate information receipt which has an outpost.com URL on it to a PDF which you must download to get the rebate form. So I go to download it based on the exact link in the rebate receipt and it gives me a "404 File Not Found" error message. I called customer service and they promised to email me a copy of it within 15 minutes; they did not do so.

What kind of scam is f*cking Fry's trying to run with all these little "oops, sorry, did we make a mistake, heh, I guess there isn't a rebate you can actually use after all" deals?!

Here comes a BBB complaint and one very angry customer getting ready to do a couple of charge-backs through the credit card company. If they want their fraudulently sold products back they can send a courier to my house to pick them up. What am I supposed to do, drive 40 miles back to the store to wait in a long line only to deal with incompetent Fry's customer disservice people who doubtlessly will not be able to produce the promised correct and guaranteed valid rebate form / receipt for me.

Frys sucks and defrauds their customers!
I was on the way to the post office to mail these in when I found these lovely little snafus.

Originally posted by: jiffer
I bought one of these power supplies on Monday (3/24), and the rebate form says it only applies to purchases made on 3/24. This makes it a one-day special instead of a two-day special--unless someone can find a different rebate form. A similar rebate is being offered at Outpost.com, but it is good for purchases made on 3/25 as well as 3/24. Some rebates are good for purchases made at Fry's stores as well as Outpost.com, and this might be one of those rebates. However, the link to the rebate form doesn't work. Can someone find out what's going on?

http://shop4.outpost.com/produ...mkbXMlt7ttvTVasg99BOhA

 

andylawcc

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pretty hot deal I say.... but after reading QuixoticOne post and if it's true, that's a screw up thing to do from Fry's.
 

jiffer

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Originally posted by: QuixoticOne
I just noticed the same problem when filling out the rebate form I got at the B&M store,
it says it is valid on 03/24/08 - 03/24/08 whereas I purchased the item on the subsequent day.
At the time I purchased it I was advised there was a currently valid $40 rebate for which the the 03/24/08 rebate form printed out. I have not found any rebate form on outpost.com, so I am not able to see if that form is valid for B&M purchases over those two days.

Did you make any progress resolving this issue?
Yes, the problem was easily solved. From what I can tell, it was a simple data entry error in their cash register system that caused the wrong date to appear on the printed rebate form. All I had to do was ask for a copy of the original Antec rebate form they had on file, which showed the correct dates. They might still have a copy of it at your local store.

In my experience, Fry's customer service is pretty good. All you have to do is talk to them and give them enough time to solve the problem for you.
 

konakona

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damn, you almost got me excited about the deal!
once I strated going through first couple of posts I soon realized some of them looked familiar, and then I checked the original post date, oh wait... :p
 

QuixoticOne

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I'm glad to see that worked out for you. I finally got someone to email me a copy of the two missing rebate forms (including one with the correct rebate validity date range) after the 3rd request.

They say never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence, but in fry's case I think there's a healthy dose of both.

A lot of e-tailers have a link on their web site where you can browse all rebate forms for all products that have had them for the past few months so you can easily find and download the form you need. Not frys. That would such an obvious and trivially easy thing for them to do that they have not done so is a pretty clear testament to the fact that they don't want to make it easy for people to succeed with the rebates. Even several hours after I told them their rebate link on their web site was broken and being promised an emailed copy they neither bothered to fix the web link nor email me one when they said they'd do.
I'm sure there have to be hundreds of other people who bought the Norton deal that was being heavily promoted in the store I went to who also couldn't get the form which has been on a broken link for at least a couple of days now.

Also their "Rebate Receipt" that prints out at their POS terminals is another example; they suggest that that is all the receipt that is needed to submit for the rebate, yet when you actually read virtually any of their rebate forms in detail (the ones printed right there on the same paper as the "rebate receipt" you see that it explicitly requires a copy of the store receipt which includes the store, purchase date, price paid, and item number. At least one or two of those items is not on the "REBATE RECEIPT -- Submit for rebate", and never has been; IIRC it is the price. I've told them to fix it months ago, and nothing has changed. I'm sure a fair number of people have been screwed out of rebates by that missing detail alone.

Another one I filled out today required the *original* receipt to be submitted; that has to work really well when you may happen to buy together a couple of unrelated products both of whose rebates may have such a provision. Regardless, after you give them that, how are you supposed to return an item, get a price adjustment, or do recordkeeping? If anyone had one shred of concern for the customer in this whole sordid mess there would never be such things.

Frankly this whole rebate scam disgusts me, and I'll be glad to see its end.

Originally posted by: jiffer

Yes, the problem was easily solved. From what I can tell, it was a simple data entry error in their cash register system that caused the wrong date to appear on the printed rebate form. All I had to do was ask for a copy of the original Antec rebate form they had on file, which showed the correct dates. They might still have a copy of it at your local store.

In my experience, Fry's customer service is pretty good. All you have to do is talk to them and give them enough time to solve the problem for you.

 

jiffer

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Originally posted by: QuixoticOne
Another one I filled out today required the *original* receipt to be submitted; that has to work really well when you may happen to buy together a couple of unrelated products both of whose rebates may have such a provision. Regardless, after you give them that, how are you supposed to return an item, get a price adjustment, or do recordkeeping? If anyone had one shred of concern for the customer in this whole sordid mess there would never be such things.
I don't want to get into an argument with you about the quality of Fry's customer service, but here are a few suggestions and observations.

First of all, I don't believe what anyone tells me; I read the rebate form myself.

I usually throw away the "rebate receipt" unless it is on the same sheet of thermal paper as the rebate form. It's worthless, and it's a waste of time to write your name, address, and phone number a second time like it asks you to do, so I don't do it if I don't have to.

If you can find an original rebate form, then you can use it instead of using the rebate form (and the attached "rebate receipt") that is printed at the cash register. Fry's usually has them on file at the store, and you can sometimes find them on Outpost.com. I think Fry's is trying to conserve paper and ink by printing the rebate form with your cash register receipt instead of handing out a bunch of photocopied rebate forms. That way, they print the rebate form only when a customer needs one, instead of printing a bunch in advance that might never get used.

When I buy items that have rebates, I have them rung up separately on separate receipts. The checkout clerks don't seem to see the point and they look like they would rather put everything on one receipt because it's easier, but none of them has ever complained when I asked them to ring up items separately. It just takes a little longer.

If you intend to keep your receipt for a fairly long time time (several months or longer), you should make a photocopy of it, because the printing on the thermal paper fades and becomes invisible eventually. When I submit rebates, I always send them the original receipt and keep the photocopy for my own records.

I always keep a copy of everything when I submit a rebate. I've had very little trouble with rebates, but the photocopies give me peace of mind, and they're available if I ever need to contact the rebate company (which has happened to me only a couple of times).

You don't need a receipt to make a return or get an adjustment at Fry's if you used a credit card to make your purchase or if you happen to know the invoice number. They can look up your transaction in their system even if you made the purchase at one of their other stores. If you have a photocopy of the receipt, it's just as good as the original receipt. Fry's does not insist on seeing your original receipt; their own record of the transaction is what they need to see.

I don't mean to sound insulting or critical, but you can't expect the people at Fry's to solve your recordkeeping problems. You have to take control of it yourself if you want things done right. I'm pretty strict with them myself because I want things done my way, but they really don't seem to mind. Sometimes I even wonder why they put up with me. :)

I don't mean this in a bad way, but if you don't like Fry's, then you shouldn't shop at Fry's. If I felt the same way you do, I wouldn't do any business with them at all.

Same with rebates. They can cause a lot of headaches, and the paperwork can be exhausting. If you find them too difficult to deal with, or if you think they are a scam, then don't bother with them. Life is too precious to let things like that get you down. Just some friendly advice. :)