Another Victim of OCZ

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Jacky60

Golden Member
Jan 3, 2010
1,123
0
0
Truth be told all data is redundant and just arbitrary time sliced information. Man up and accept it's lost. Then, move on!
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
14,695
117
106
Happy with my M4 so far *knock on wood*. Had to RMA my OCZ a few times with the whole Vertex 2 thing
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
56,571
10,206
126
I'm no fan of Sandforce, but I took a leap of faith, on a Muskin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe 240GB SSD, for $239. I hope it will work reliably for me.

My current OCZ Agility 30GB has been perfectly reliable thus far, but it just doesn't have quite the performance kick that a "modern" SSD does. (Although it's marginally faster than a HD.)
 

bradley

Diamond Member
Jan 9, 2000
3,671
2
81
I bought my Plextor M3 256GB for $239 AR and a $50 off $200 Newegg Business coupon. Excellent price for a high-quality drive.

Last December, My friend bought his Samsung 830 256GB with Batman Arkham City for $230 + tax from Microcenter. I regretted not taking the Microcenter trek with him, but in good conscience probably couldn't have exploited what was obviously a pricing mistake.

Therefore, my advice, you can avoid being a victim and still get a great deal by: perusing deal sites and properly configuring alerts.
 

sm625

Diamond Member
May 6, 2011
8,172
137
106
Here's yet another sad chapter to the sad ssd tragedy.

So I never got my sandtrap/crap drive working. But I got my shiny new M4 today so my problems are solved, right? Of course not. I am typing this on my laggy little iCrap while staring at a screen that says "Starting Windows". It never stops starting...

This is my 2nd attempt. I updated the firmware to 000F as soon as I got it. (I am saving this now before my iPoop crashes)

It makes it through 3 reboot cycles all the way where you enter your new username and password. The last thing I see is "Preparing you desktop" then it reboots in what appears to be an unexpected manner. And then it gets stuck on "Starting Windows". Should I bother with Exchanging this drive or just be done with SSDs and accept that they are just a time-wasting scam? My raptor is noticeably slower, but IT WORKS. M4 is supposed to be one of the best but clearly it is trash jus like ocz.

I tried doing a startup repair but... Yep that just "hangs" at the screen with the vista-style progress bar. The bar is moving but it just isn't doing anything as far as I can tell. Doh... it just stopped. After 5 minutes it is now frozen.
 
Last edited:

sm625

Diamond Member
May 6, 2011
8,172
137
106
sm625: Stop paying to be a beta tester and buy an intel drive already.

Lol I might just do that just to see how cursed I am. But if I'm a beta tester for crucial then what are all those millions of others who supposedly bought an M4 and gave it glowing reviews? Hell I have an M4 running in my gf's pc and it works just fine. Shrug. Can I change the thread title to cross out the word OCZ and replace it with "SSD"?
 

nanaki333

Diamond Member
Sep 14, 2002
3,772
13
81
had an 80GB vertex 2 die on me. in true ocz fashion, i got an rma number pretty quickly :)
 

Bruiser1

Junior Member
Feb 5, 2010
12
0
0
The Internet is filled with stories of SSD failures. While I have had Hard Drives fail, I've usually received some type of warning.

I'm still using Raptors for the most part and haven't dwelled into SSD territory yet just because of stories like the OP. I know they're quicker, but I wonder, are they worth the cost and the risk?
 

alaricljs

Golden Member
May 11, 2005
1,221
1
76
Walking into it knowing that your drive could fail with zero warning it's just a matter of whether you're willing to be prepared for it.

My laptop has an HDD in the optical bay and it holds my media (~55GB of music, any movies I want if I'm traveling), and my backups. I do a full system backup every week, and I snapshot my data every 4 hours and keep 5 days worth of incrementals.

My main rig has zero important data on it, everything is on an SSD in my server that gets the same snapshot backup treatment. I don't even bother backing up the main since I'll probably be loading up new versions of drivers and apps anyway.

Having moved from HDDs to SSDs without thinking about their failure modes is what lost me a small chunk of data in the first place. I really should have been doing backups all along. The SSDs are what enable me to do them every 4hrs without noticing a single slowdown.
 

sequoia464

Senior member
Feb 12, 2003
870
0
71
are they worth the cost and the risk?

Yes - I have 10 SSD's - my only failures were first generation Sandforce drives. They could probably even be revived if I wanted to send them in.

I backup daily from two sets of SSD's in raid0 - 1 for operating system and one for programs and data that I use on a daily basis - to a third set of raid0 SSD's that is just for backups. Takes less than three minutes to back-up 30 gigs. At the end of the day I backup the OS and Data sets to a USB 3.0 drive.

I use the other non SSD machines around here only at lunch time - that way I have plenty of time to eat a taco or two between tasks or starting a new app.
 

sm625

Diamond Member
May 6, 2011
8,172
137
106
After 7 attempts I finally got windows to install on the M4. I'm not sure exactly what the problem was, but the last two things I tried was unplugging the LAN and unplugging the front USB cables from the motherboard. It's a mystery, but I'll have to leave it at that. I'm not about to try reinstalling again just to find out which one of those two things was causing the problem. :whiste:
 

waterjug

Senior member
Jan 21, 2012
930
0
76
It's pretty easy to just sync your office files to the cloud and there are numerous free and secure options. While I'm no OCZ fan, this is your bad.

As I've seen posted many times on these forums in the past: data that's not backed up is already lost.


What services do you guys use for this?
 

waterjug

Senior member
Jan 21, 2012
930
0
76
I'm on my 3rd OCZ drive. I can't really shell out the money for a new SSD so I'm stuck having them fail every 10 months and getting a new one for free. :( I wish I had never bought that original Vertex 2. I'm on an Agility 3 after the most recent failure. It's already making weird noises after about 3 months. Yay. Garbage.
 

alaricljs

Golden Member
May 11, 2005
1,221
1
76
I had to turn wifi off on my laptop to get Win7 to not say it couldn't be installed on my hardware. Yes, a literal error message that stated Win7 could not be installed on my hardware. Also got that message with one of my M4s and decided I might try replacing the SATA cable. It worked, oddly enough. It was the only part in the system aside from the PSU/case that wasn't new and it was an original first release SATA cable.
 

nanaki333

Diamond Member
Sep 14, 2002
3,772
13
81
The Internet is filled with stories of SSD failures. While I have had Hard Drives fail, I've usually received some type of warning.

I'm still using Raptors for the most part and haven't dwelled into SSD territory yet just because of stories like the OP. I know they're quicker, but I wonder, are they worth the cost and the risk?

you could buy a 60GB for your raptors and use a program like fancycache to accelerate your current drives. that way you get some nice SSD speed without the fear of failure.
 

taltamir

Lifer
Mar 21, 2004
13,576
6
76
After 7 attempts I finally got windows to install on the M4. I'm not sure exactly what the problem was, but the last two things I tried was unplugging the LAN and unplugging the front USB cables from the motherboard. It's a mystery, but I'll have to leave it at that. I'm not about to try reinstalling again just to find out which one of those two things was causing the problem. :whiste:

this would suggest a mobo issue rather then an issue with the SSD
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
56,571
10,206
126
Well, my brand-new Mushkin 240GB Chronos Deluxe went Tango Uniform within a few days. When I finally got around to trying to format it, in fact.

Edit: Update - it wasn't totally dead after all. It was a bad SATA port, or sub-standard wiring on the SATA dock.
 
Last edited:

professorman

Member
Feb 24, 2009
33
0
0
DO NOT S3 or S4 sleep/hibernate that controller. The delay of issue often makes people who do run into issuse think that there is no correlation since panic locks can happen during use. Freeze.. BSOD.. gone on reboot. The more often you power transition these first gen SF drives?.. the greater the likelyhood that firmware or data corruption can result. I have 8 of these drives and they never skip a beat because I never S3/S4 them over the long term, aside from beta testing firmware for them.


Why is S3 or S4 bad for SSD drives? I do not think I can live without sleep or hibernate on my computer. I would be paying out my nose for electricity usage when I am not home.