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Another Torrenza Chip

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"With the advent of Tarari T10 Technology Acceleration engines, customers using Dual-Core AMD Opteron processors can expect to see Anti-Virus scanning ability jump from 300Mbps into the 6 to 10Gbps range -- a more than 20-fold improvement while using significantly less CPU cycles"

That's a fairly significant improvement for the HPC crowd...
 
sounds pretty cool, my virus scanning always slows everything to a crawl, I wonder if they got a video compressor too.
 
Developers can immediately start building their designs using Tarari's silicon since Tarari supports a standard API across all of its software and silicon products that is transparent as to the "processor to content processor" interconnect method used
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Also runs on any other interconnect. PCI-E is specifically mentioned.

Perhaps Hector should spend less time out of his office and more time trying keep AMD from sinking further into insolvency.
Another day, another 52 week low stock price. Perhaps they will do a Dell and bring Sanders back. Anything to get that clown out of there.
 
Originally posted by: Phynaz
Developers can immediately start building their designs using Tarari's silicon since Tarari supports a standard API across all of its software and silicon products that is transparent as to the "processor to content processor" interconnect method used
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Also runs on any other interconnect. PCI-E is specifically mentioned.

Perhaps Hector should spend less time out of his office and more time trying keep AMD from sinking further into insolvency.
Another day, another 52 week low stock price. Perhaps they will do a Dell and bring Sanders back. Anything to get that clown out of there.
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Sigh...another day another troll.
To answer you PCIe point, with PCIe you don't get the "optimally interconnected in low latency, high bandwidth configurations with AMD Opteron processors" that you do with Torrenza.
Obviously it would be foolish of any startup to produce for only a single type of chip, even if the PCIe is sub-optimal...
 
Most systems have few, if any available PCI-E slots unless they use integrated graphics. I doubt Tarari works very well on anything slower than PCI-E 16x anyway.

Still, it's sad that modern OSes are so vulnerable to viruses, trojans, etc that we would actually want to buy hardware specifically built to accelerate virus scans. Kinda reminds me of the old Stacker co-processors . . . blah.
 
Originally posted by: Phynaz
Developers can immediately start building their designs using Tarari's silicon since Tarari supports a standard API across all of its software and silicon products that is transparent as to the "processor to content processor" interconnect method used
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Also runs on any other interconnect. PCI-E is specifically mentioned.

Perhaps Hector should spend less time out of his office and more time trying keep AMD from sinking further into insolvency.
Another day, another 52 week low stock price. Perhaps they will do a Dell and bring Sanders back. Anything to get that clown out of there.
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I'm calling you out Phynaz. You're an anti-AMD troll, who might even be in the pay of Intel. Two threads bashing AMD and now this third post bashing AMD yet again? This is just on page 1 of the CPU forum. While Intel's Core micro-architecture has them on top, AMD isn't going away any time soon. Their offerings in the low-end are superb, and better than Intel's offerings for that market segment.
 
"optimally interconnected in low latency, high bandwidth configurations with AMD Opteron processors"
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Ohhh! Marketing speak!

Please, most people around here are smarter than to fall for that FUD.

 
You're an anti-AMD troll, who might even be in the pay of Intel.
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You have no idea who I am. Maybe I'm an Intel fan. Maybe I'm a troll. Maybe I'm an upset AMD fan. You don't know sh*t.

I wish I was on Intel's payroll, their money is just as green as anyone elses. I also wish I was on AMD's payroll. By making acusations like that you have shown your immaturity.

Their offerings in the low-end are superb, and better than Intel's offerings for that market segment.
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The problem is AMD's top of the line is low-end.

 
Originally posted by: Phynaz
The problem is AMD's top of the line is low-end.
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The problem is AMD's top of the line is mid-range. There's no application for a system that core 2 can do, and X2 can't, but the highest performance is certainly coming from intel, by a real 20% or so across the board.
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Phynaz
The problem is AMD's top of the line is low-end.
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The problem is AMD's top of the line is mid-range. There's no application for a system that core 2 can do, and X2 can't, but the highest performance is certainly coming from intel, by a real 20% or so across the board.
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I assure you the top of the line, while high-margin parts, are certainly not where AMD or Intel make most of their money.
 
Originally posted by: Phynaz
Ohhh! Marketing speak!

Please, most people around here are smarter than to fall for that FUD.
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The FUD that HyperTransport is a faster, better interconnect for coprocessors than PCI-Express? No, that's quite true.

Originally posted by: Phynaz
You have no idea who I am. Maybe I'm an Intel fan. Maybe I'm a troll. Maybe I'm an upset AMD fan. You don't know sh*t.
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The smart money is on troll...

The problem is AMD's top of the line is low-end.
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...and this is why.
 
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Phynaz
The problem is AMD's top of the line is low-end.
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The problem is AMD's top of the line is mid-range. There's no application for a system that core 2 can do, and X2 can't, but the highest performance is certainly coming from intel, by a real 20% or so across the board.
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I assure you the top of the line, while high-margin parts, are certainly not where AMD or Intel make most of their money.
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It's a perception problem, if anything.

They make their money on whatever the OEMs are selling by the boatload.

Actually, AMD still makes their money from flash memory don't they? I could be wrong.
 
Originally posted by: Aluvus
Originally posted by: Phynaz
Ohhh! Marketing speak!

Please, most people around here are smarter than to fall for that FUD.
Click to expand...

The FUD that HyperTransport is a faster, better interconnect for coprocessors than PCI-Express? No, that's quite true.

Originally posted by: Phynaz
You have no idea who I am. Maybe I'm an Intel fan. Maybe I'm a troll. Maybe I'm an upset AMD fan. You don't know sh*t.
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The smart money is on troll...

The problem is AMD's top of the line is low-end.
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...and this is why.
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I'm gonna break this argument up....

I...am a Nazi!

Anyways, when you refer to "low-end" with AMD, does that mean Sempron or the low X2 processors?
 
Originally posted by: Phynaz
"optimally interconnected in low latency, high bandwidth configurations with AMD Opteron processors"
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Ohhh! Marketing speak!

Please, most people around here are smarter than to fall for that FUD.
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Don't be such an idiot Phynaz...
"optimally interconnected" = connected directly to the cache
"in low latency" = refers to the fact that the latency for PCIe is as much as .6 times more than for Torrenza (meaning that PCIe has 60% greater latency).
"high bandwidth configurations" - should also be self-explanatory...unless you're a Troll of course.

Seeing as you obviously have no idea what it means, I guess I should help you out and explain what FUD actually means...no, it's not BS or anything like that, it was invented by the IBM marketing team back at the time of the birth of the PC.
FUD stands for Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt...it is used by marketing teams (and Trolls like yourself) to "mudsling" at the competition. It is NOT a term used when a company touts their own prowess...

BTW, have you noticed that 99% of your posts fall under the category of FUD?
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie


Actually, AMD still makes their money from flash memory don't they? I could be wrong.
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No...AMD sold most of Spansion (their Flash Division) a few years ago.
 
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: Phynaz
"optimally interconnected in low latency, high bandwidth configurations with AMD Opteron processors"
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Ohhh! Marketing speak!

Please, most people around here are smarter than to fall for that FUD.
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Don't be such an idiot Phynaz...
"optimally interconnected" = connected directly to the cache
"in low latency" = refers to the fact that the latency for PCIe is as much as .6 times more than for Torrenza (meaning that PCIe has 60% greater latency).
"high bandwidth configurations" - should also be self-explanatory...unless you're a Troll of course.

Seeing as you obviously have no idea what it means, I guess I should help you out and explain what FUD actually means...no, it's not BS or anything like that, it was invented by the IBM marketing team back at the time of the birth of the PC.
FUD stands for Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt...it is used by marketing teams (and Trolls like yourself) to "mudsling" at the competition. It is NOT a term used when a company touts their own prowess...

BTW, have you noticed that 99% of your posts fall under the category of FUD?
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Wow, now you're name calling. And I'm called the troll.

Please show me documentation - link is fine - that the chip that accelerates virus scanning is latency or bandwidth limited.

All this stuff about HT being faster, lower latency is all a distraction. Only a moron thinks a three pound hammer is always better than a one pound hammer.

Only a moron thinks HT is always the best answer to a chip interconnect.

BTW, I'm writing this on an AMD system.

 
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie


Actually, AMD still makes their money from flash memory don't they? I could be wrong.
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No...AMD sold most of Spansion (their Flash Division) a few years ago.
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Well look at me being right out of that🙂
 
Originally posted by: Phynaz

Please show me documentation - link is fine - that the chip that accelerates virus scanning is latency or bandwidth limited.

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Only a moron thinks HT is always the best answer to a chip interconnect.
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If that chip needs to talk directly to the processor (as is the case for a coprocessor), then HyperTransport beats the everloving piss out of PCI-Express.

The article, in fact the portion of it snipped out by Viditor, specifically notes that the chip is able to grind through data much, much faster on HyperTransport. Whatever you might think, the company that makes this thing sure seems to think it benefits from HyperTransport.

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Well look at me being right out of that🙂
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FWIW, AMD does still own a large portion of Spansion, though I don't know how much they get out of it.
 
The article
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Your first mistake is right there. It's not an article, it's a press release. Otherwise known as marketing spin.

For example, this from the very first sentence, "proven leader in deep content inspection silicon". Oh really? Proven by who? Using what measurements?

Maybe I'll issue a press release saying I'm the proven leader of scientific software engineering - I happen to be the only one in the room at the moment, so it would be true if "in the room" was my measurement.
 
Originally posted by: Phynaz

Your first mistake is right there. It's not an article, it's a press release. Otherwise known as marketing spin.

For example, this from the very first sentence, "proven leader in deep content inspection silicon". Oh really? Proven by who? Using what measurements?

Maybe I'll issue a press release saying I'm the proven leader of scientific software engineering - I happen to be the only one in the room at the moment, so it would be true if "in the room" was my measurement.
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I take it you realized your argument had no actual merit, then?
 
lol, while this feature might be sorta useful in some kinda commercial application (maybe a server farm or something where you need constant uptime and can't just schedule scans at night) I don't really see this being a killer feature for the home user... I dunno what kinda lunatic would buy a dedicated processor just to scan for viruses.
 
If the chip is cheap, it'd be a decent addition to low-end home PCs with clueless users that are most in need of anti-virus software products.

Still, any OS so riddled with exploits that it could benefit from such hardware is in serious need of a re-write.
 
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