Another Top Al-Qaeda Leader Killed... In Pakistan..

guyver01

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/06/04/pakistan.jihadist.killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
The man described by counterterrorism officials as al Qaeda's "military brain," Ilyas Kashmiri, was killed in a drone strike Friday night in Pakistan, a spokesman for his group, the jihadist Harakat-ul-Jihad-Islami, said.

If confirmed, his death would be the first major kill or capture since Osama Bin Laden, and the highest profile drone target since Beitullah Mehsud in 2009.

It could also be seen as an embarrassment for Pakistanis, who have twice in just over one month, had a major al Qaeda figure killed on their territory without their participation.


So.... Pakistan wanna explain why they're harboring terrorists???


Good to see we're not telling these Terrorist supporters what we're doing anymore... they'll tip off their buddies.
U.S. drones now operate entirely autonomously in Pakistan, a Pakistani intelligence source has told CNN. Whereas before the United States cooperated with Pakistan and used their intelligence, today, the Americans have an intelligence network that allows them to go after terrorists unilaterally.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Not that anyone cares but this guy was found in South Waziristan, which is in the middle of absolutely nowhere a short way from Afghanistan. The central government has virtually no control over that area.
 

guyver01

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The central government has virtually no control over that area.

So.. the Government has no control over anything going on within its own borders.

good to know.

this way, when we drop the bomb and glass the place, noone will complain.
 

Zebo

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lol whack a mole. Need to start turning keys if you wanna get shit done.
 

Jhhnn

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Standard right wing raving ignorance, as usual. The govt of Pakistan has little control over South Waziristan or other parts of the Tribal Areas along the Afghan border. Nobody else really has, either, in the last several hundred years, other than the tribes of people who live there.

Think of Indian territory, what's now Oklahoma, circa 1880, except that the Waziris are much more entrenched and insular. Several different tribes inhabit the place, and don't even communicate a lot with each other, blood feuds being common. It's the kind of place where asking too many questions will get your throat cut in the best of times & circumstances. It's only considered part of Pakistan because in hte modern way of thinking it has to be part of some country rather than considered to be wild tribal territory.
 

Screech

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Some interesting tidbits from the article:
He famously escaped from an Indian jail and went to fight with a unit of Pakistan's special forces. Eventually, he fell out with his sponsors in the Pakistani military, and moved his operations to North Waziristan.

At one point, he was arrested in connection with an attempt to assassinate Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, in 2003. For reasons unknown, Kashmiri was released a short time later.

Needless to say, better to not tell pakistan when and who we will be bombing with UAVs if we actually want to hit the target, as seems to have occurred here...
 

Jhhnn

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There's nothing exceptional about Kashmiri being arrested & released in 2003. It's just the Pakistani version of a dragnet, where any people they see as likely suspects are arrested & questioned. Once the authorities have an answer & set of defendants that meets their satisfaction, the rest are released.

Being a radical nutcase isn't any more a crime in Pakistan than in the US, provided it can't be shown that you've crossed the line.
 

blackangst1

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If you don't give a crap about the lives of thousands of Libyan civilians.

I give more of a crap about Africa TBH, but sadly, no one gives a shit about Africa. Instead, we target our "goodwill" efforts where its needed less.

Oh well.
 

Thump553

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His death is not confirmed yet.

Apparently this is the guy that was the brains behind the hotel attack in India as well.
 

Kadarin

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Withholding judgment until it's confirmed, as the only source "confirming" it is the enemy.
 

Craig234

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Withholding judgment until it's confirmed, as the only source "confirming" it is the enemy.

When have they ever made a false confirmation?

Unfortunately they're a lot more accurate on that than our military has been.
 

tvarad

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The revamp of the CIA under Leon Panetta is bearing fruit. It's clear that the last few years has been spent to set up a CIA network in the region that's independent of Pakistani intelligence help. That also explains why the latter created such a brouhaha over Raymond Davis earlier this year. I expect more such elimination of high value targets now that OBL has been bagged and the gloves come off. The U.S. has probably decided that "nation-building" is going to take a back-seat to eliminating any and every potential Al-Qaeda threat.