Okay then, how many Republican politicians then do you think care about second hand smoking deaths? I've not really seen a solution out of them for gun related deaths, smoking related deaths, heart disease related deaths, etc. But I suppose since the Democrats are the only ones that actually try to at least do anything to help people (those bastards) cutting taxes for the rich will suffice for now for the R's.
Oh look, you didn’t actually care about evidence. I for one am totally shocked.
I wouldn't say I don't care, but I don't care that much about self harm. That is someone's personal choice. I'm more concerned about the prescription you would apply to lower firearms homicide.
I don't think anyone cares about smoking deaths. That's kind of the point. A much bigger killer of innocent victims and those that cause self harm, no one cares. Guns? The left is laser focused on this much smaller killer because they don't like guns. It isn't about saving lives, it is about limiting liberties that the right likes, it is petty partisan bs. Much bigger killer? No one cares. Significantly smaller killer? Rape the constitution.
In other news, another shooting, this time at a Walmart in Mississippi.
Thoughts and prayers, and second hand smoke kills even more people.
Did I cover it all?
In other news, another shooting, this time at a Walmart in Mississippi.
Thoughts and prayers, and second hand smoke kills even more people.
Did I cover it all?
Yet another nutjob, inflamed by right wing propaganda, shoots up a public place. No doubt the 'conservative media' whose irresponsible rhetoric drove him over the edge is again laying the blame on the usual scapegoats of antifa and Bernie.
TBH, I'm 100% for completely banning tobacco and guns. You shouldn't be allowed to own a gun and I'm for making tobacco an extinct plant.guys, smoking kills way more people, yet goes unregulated.
They're rather different. Littering is criminal, obviously, by definition. Cocaine is a substance and when used, disappears. Guns are equipment. If it becomes illegal to possess a gun, what's the point of having one? It can only get you in trouble.We should definitely ban guns.
It worked so well for cocaine and littering.
TBH, I'm 100% for completely banning tobacco and guns. You shouldn't be allowed to own a gun and I'm for making tobacco an extinct plant.
Edit: BTW, smoking is NOT unregulated. It's just insufficiently regulated. IMO, they should wipe out vaping too.
FTFYI shoulda put that /s in there. Tobacco is a good example of how lobbying can be very effective, but eventually we wised up and regulated the crap out of it, and it's curbed nicotine addiction quiteeffectivelysignificantly.
No, they have one very fundamental common denominator... the perpetrator had access to a gun.Guns are a fairly effective way of ending one's own life, yes. But, someone making a choice for themselves is a whole different discussion than murders and mass shootings.
It was a Sunday in the sun in America, last afternoon of The Festival, the sun going down, but still visible. The end of a few lives, the beginning of a painful future for a dozen or so who didn't die (yet). A loss of innocence in Gilroy, CA.Lets add this up.
We have the divisive hate from Donald Trump, and we have the NRA handing out AK-47's to every nutcase that wants one with no questions asked, and we have people in a crowd having fun.
Put that altogether and what do you have?
Just another day.
No, they have one common denominator... the perpetrator had access to a gun.
Liberals: "We want to keep criminals and mentally unstable persons from having access to guns."I think you're confused. Plenty of people on the left own guns. The whole point is not to limit liberties of gun owners, but to stop people from being murdered. If I wish to smoke and kill myself slowly that's my business, but I don't feel the need to have my head taken apart by some whacko with a gun because I wanted to go see a Batman movie. Do you understand the difference?
If the deranged right wingers that love Trump would stop murdering people like this it wouldn't be an issue.

In other news, another shooting, this time at a Walmart in Mississippi.
Thoughts and prayers, and second hand smoke kills even more people.
Did I cover it all?
Yep. Unfortunately they've been sold the lie that if we give an inch they'll take a mile. I can understand this mentality but when innocents are being killed through no fault of their own it should be a wake up call.Liberals: "We want to keep criminals and mentally unstable persons from having access to guns."
Conservatives: "You're trying to take away my guns!"
<- gun-toting liberal
Well stated, and although rather obvious it's not mentioned much... I don't remember seeing/hearing this before although I have fully understood this for many years. TBH, it's one very good reason I don't want to own a gun!It also happens that people tend to attempt suicide in a unique moment of depression and despair. Most people that attempt suicide never try again which means the effectiveness of means they use to attempt suicide matter a TON. Guns are by far the most effective commonly used form of suicide so when people attempt suicide that way they often either succeed or leave themselves permanently damaged.
The idea that the average person committing suicide is acting on their well-considered preferences so we shouldn't deprive them of their desired means is disgusting and offensive. The vast majority of the time they are people who otherwise want to live but are in unique mental and emotional distress. A good friend of mine died about 12 years ago from suicide and he used a gun. I think a lot about if he might still be alive if he wasn't able to find one that day.
of course the cops lied. lol. They didnt do shit.
