another SATA drive question

imported_itsme

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ok, so i have been able to setup my new sata drive to be recognized under windows. i set the drive with an active partition thinking that this would enable me to perform a clean xp install. even when install the os from the new drive (not from cd) i cannot seem to get the setup to recognize the new drive and does not allow me to install it on that drive. how can i get my system to recognize the single sata drive without my ide drive and without having to boot up windows. by the way, i am installing from the hard drive because i only have an ext usb cd drive due to my int drive having busted.


thanks in advance fellas!
 

Geomagick

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A lot of serial ATA adapters need their drivers installed during the installation of XP, during the nice blue screen bits at the beginning.

The drivers should be on the floppy disk that came with your mobo/adapter card.

If you don't have this disk you will need to download the drivers from the manufacturers website, hope this helps.
 

stevty2889

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you'll need the drivers for the SATA controler on a floppy disk. Once you have the drivers on the floppy, press F6 when prompted by the XP setup. Once it recognizes the drivers for the SATA controller, it should recognize the drive no problem.
 

Geomagick

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Originally posted by: Jetrug64
i needed help with this 2.


What if you don't use floppys n e more

I'm not sure, I always keep an old drive around which I just plug in as and when I need it.
 

Oyeve

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When I got my SATA drive to replace my 40 gig boot drive I used Norton ghost. Worked like a charm.
 

stevty2889

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You can always slipstream the SATA drivers in to a windows disc, but you'll have to have a computer up and running already that has a CD burner.
 

Mr Bob

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Someone mentioned that you only need those drivers when installing RAID on SATA...
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Mr Bob
Someone mentioned that you only need those drivers when installing RAID on SATA...
Depends on the motherboard and stuff. itsme, and anyone else, post your full system specs when asking for help with this stuff :)
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Mr Bob
Haven't tried it yet, I just want to be prepared for when I do try it.
...and for my next trick, I will... SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET! :D

:Q *applause* :Q

;) Sorry... too much coffee and all... ;)


Ok, P4P800-E Deluxe, you have both "native" Intel SATA and a tacked-on Promise SATA controller. I'll need to download the manual to give precise suggestions but the general concept is this:

1) The drive needs to be plugged into the controller that you want, and there are two, so you have to read the manual and make sure you picked the right SATA fittings. I would use the native Intel-based SATA.

2) The Intel SATA controller can run RAID or non-RAID modes. For a single drive, you would want to set it to non-RAID mode.

3) The motherboard can use the native Intel SATA controller in different ways. You'll want the "Enhanced Mode" so you can run all the IDE channels plus SATA.

4) The motherboard needs to be set to boot from the CD-ROM drive and then from the SATA drive (no big surprise) or it will run Windows Setup and then just look :( and not know what to do on the reboot. Corrolary to that: if you add a PATA drive after setting up Windows, expect the mobo to be :confused: and switch to the PATA drive as the boot drive (which of course won't work), so you go back into the BIOS and re-set the boot-device priority list so the SATA drive is the one listed.

Also, if you have a PATA hard drive in the system when you install Windows, it will probably hog drive letter C: and then your SATA drive will be the boot drive, but with a drive letter like F:. So keep the PATA storage drives unhooked during Windows Setup.

And lastly, if the drive has Windows installed on it already, then on the first run of Windows Setup, delete all the partitions on the SATA drive and hit F3 twice to exit Windows Setup. Then start again. This prevents you from having a menu during boot-up that's offering two different WinXP boot-ups that you must choose between.

Holler if you need more help when the stuff arrives, I'll have the manual by then :)
 

Mr Bob

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I am a little lost here. Not sure what this means: "native" Intel SATA and a tacked-on Promise SATA controller

I thought all I have to do is, download SATA drivers onto a floppy, plug in the SATA drive where my current SATA drive is, then boot up. If it asks for a driver, insert the floppy.

Then install XP Pro from there. Then when that works, hook up the old 120GB, and get that to work too.

I'm new to this, my uncle built this computer for me awhile ago, and he isn't here to help with the new hard drive ;)
 

mechBgon

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The Intel southbridge has its own SATA controllers ("native") that are not tied to the relatively-restricted PCI bus, they ride above it. The board also has a soldered-down Promise ATA controller that runs on the PCI bus and shares the PCI bandwidth with all the other PCI devices (both soldered-down and plug-in).

If the Intel native SATA controller is in its non-RAID mode, then AFAIK you don't need any drivers on floppy at all for Windows Setup if the drive is on the Intel SATA plugs. It emulates a PATA drive.

Now, if you want to have your boot drive on the Promise SATA or if you want to do RAID on the Intel SATA, then I believe you'll need a driver floppy. I just use 15000rpm SCSI in my rigs, so I haven't had to deal with this firsthand myself.
 

Mr Bob

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Ok, well now that I am confused even more, it sort of sounds like I should be fine as long as I don't use RAID...
 

stevty2889

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It's best to have the drivers ready on a floppy before hand just incase you do need them, I think I needed to use them for my single sata drive on the native Intel SATA controler, but can't remember for sure as that was a while ago. Did you need them to install the 120gig SATA drive you are already using?