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Another Malaysian airplane down

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777 going from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur with 295 on board has gone down in the Ukraine.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/17/us-ukraine-crash-airplane-idUSKBN0FM1TU20140717
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html


Nobody knows anything about what actually has happened, but all they have been doing on the news is talk about how or why/why not it could have been shot down. Nothing like stirring the pot.

Edit: Ukraine interior minister says it was shot down by militants. (according to CNN and Reuters.)
 
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Most likely Russian separatists. Their military minister Igor Strelkov wrote in his blog: "Just shot down An-26... We've warned - do not fly in our sky.

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vk. com/strelkov_info (his blog)
 
t1gran said:
Most likely Russian separatists. Their military minister Igor Strelkov wrote in his blog: "Just shot down An-26... We've warned - do not fly in our sky.

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vk. com/strelkov_info (his blog)
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If these idiots really mistook a 777 for AN-26 they are a perfect example of why real military weapons should only be in trained hands.
 
Genx87 said:
Hmm shot down by Russians or their separatists?
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It's all the same. There are Russian separatists in Ukraine supported by Russia. There are videos in YouTube with modern tanks, self-propelled guns etc with Russian flags in that area. They even do not pretend to be local separatists.
 
t1gran said:
It's all the same. There are Russian separatists in Ukraine supported by Russia. There are videos in YouTube with modern tanks, self-propelled guns etc with Russian flags in that area. They even do not pretend to be local separatists.
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Yeap. Hell, the military minister whose post you quoted is a Russian citizen.
 
t1gran said:
It's all the same. There are Russian separatists in Ukraine supported by Russia. There are videos in YouTube with modern tanks, self-propelled guns etc with Russian flags in that area. They even do not pretend to be local separatists.
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Picked those up at their local police departments I am sure.
 
The shoulder fired missile systems the separatists are known to have wouldn't have the range to reach a commercial aircraft at altitude. This would have to be an advanced missile system either provided by the Russians or owned by the Ukraine. And I can't see the Ukrainian military shooting down an aircraft over their territory flying in commercial jetways.
 
My guess - and based on zip, zero, zilch expertise or data - is that the Russians shot it down thinking it may have been an Ukrainian military cargo plane. Because they just did that a few days ago. So the Russians did it, but not realizing it was a commercial flight. However, they will deny and blame 'separatists' and/or spin some crazy narrative otherwise.

Just me talking out my ass, but I just can't see the Ukrainians being aggressive when they are trying to brand themselves as victims of Russian repression.
 
Just a reminder that conservatives can't stop sucking Putin's dick because he's so 'strong', unlike that Obama guy.

Not the thread for these "sentiments."

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MomentsofSanity said:
And I can't see the Ukrainian military shooting down an aircraft over their territory flying in commercial jetways.
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Certainly not one on a track like that crossing Ukraine from the west. If this was a missile attack I'd be betting on Russian separatists using a missile system provided by Moscow. Consequently Moscow should be held fully responsible since they caused this fucking mess.
 
MomentsofSanity said:
The shoulder fired missile systems the separatists are known to have wouldn't have the range to reach a commercial aircraft at altitude. This would have to be an advanced missile system either provided by the Russians or owned by the Ukraine. And I can't see the Ukrainian military shooting down an aircraft over their territory flying in commercial jetways.
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Actually Russian militants have one - Buk missile system (SA-11 Gadfly), up to 18 km. There is a video with a Russian activist confirming they captured Ukrainian Buk (from Jul'13).
 
Most likely it was a Ukraine missile system trying to get revenge after Russia shot down one of its fighters a few days ago. I see this one being hushed over by Obama and his CIA operatives.
 
brycejones said:
If these idiots really mistook a 777 for AN-26 they are a perfect example of why real military weapons should only be in trained hands.
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There was a fighter jet shot down about 6 hours before the passenger jet in the same area.

He made this post BEFORE the passenger jet was shot down.
 
Phokus said:
Just a reminder that conservatives can't stop sucking Putin's dick because he's so 'strong', unlike that Obama guy.
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WTFBBQ

Anyways, wow poor Malaysia... This shoot down is going to get messy as I'm quite sure there were a ton of EU citizens on that plane...
 
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