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Another LIE by the neocons. (or miscalculation if you prefer)

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Why do certain people associate Foreign Policy as being either War Like or being Isolationist.

As if that's the only options available. Right.

Very much like the Republican vs. Democrat two party system mentality.

Pathetic.
 
Originally posted by: RealityTime
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Didn't Rumsfeld say a few months ago that the insurgent attacks were going to get worse the closer we got to the elections? I believe he did so that pretty much turns this story into a strawman.

It does show the depths of fishing the new liberals will go to in order to create an angle, any angle, that they can use to disparage the admin.

We don't have to "angle", Shrub and Co. give us an endless supply of material all on his own.

Would you prefer to go back to the era of the 1930s and the practice of isolationism?

The admin miscalcuated (for one reason or another) on the way the Iraq situation would be played out. They have admitted it.
The Western perspective was that the Iraqis were willing to move forward without Saddam.

That theory was not solid, the loss of power and the ability to become a big fish in a small pond was desired by some tribal chieftans and others.

It was not expected that the insurgents would be so willing to destroy their country to prevent the loss of their power. That goes against the Western grain of thought.



rofl, what a farce. Iraq was still in tatters from bush sr. last attack. And following madman-bush's latest asasult, the country was left in tatters. They don't have anything left to destroy, bush took care of that. The real disgrace is that, that region is aknowledged as the oldest and longest populated area on the face of the earth. There were architectural areas in Iraq dating back to the dawn of civilization and the nutcase levelled it to make halliburton money and steal a country. rofl, couldn't expect they'd destroy their own country? It's been levelled man! There is nothing left to destroy. If you can't get a clue, go down to the library and borrow one.

If there is nothing left to destroy, then:
1) Why the attacks on the local police. Are they trying to disrupt/destroy the local semblance of government/authority?

2) Why the continued attacks on the pipeline and power systems. Are they trying to disrupt the rebuilding of the economy and the abilty for Iraq to generate hard currency flow?

Iraq was not in tatters, they were able to rebuild a lot of their infrastructure over the past 10 years. There were plenty of companies in Europe & Asia tht would gleefully take the petro money in order to gain contracts.

If you seem to feel that American and other lives were lost just so Halliburton could have a couple of extra dollars, you need to re-evalute your propaganda.

 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: RealityTime
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Didn't Rumsfeld say a few months ago that the insurgent attacks were going to get worse the closer we got to the elections? I believe he did so that pretty much turns this story into a strawman.

It does show the depths of fishing the new liberals will go to in order to create an angle, any angle, that they can use to disparage the admin.

We don't have to "angle", Shrub and Co. give us an endless supply of material all on his own.

Would you prefer to go back to the era of the 1930s and the practice of isolationism?

The admin miscalcuated (for one reason or another) on the way the Iraq situation would be played out. They have admitted it.
The Western perspective was that the Iraqis were willing to move forward without Saddam.

That theory was not solid, the loss of power and the ability to become a big fish in a small pond was desired by some tribal chieftans and others.

It was not expected that the insurgents would be so willing to destroy their country to prevent the loss of their power. That goes against the Western grain of thought.



rofl, what a farce. Iraq was still in tatters from bush sr. last attack. And following madman-bush's latest asasult, the country was left in tatters. They don't have anything left to destroy, bush took care of that. The real disgrace is that, that region is aknowledged as the oldest and longest populated area on the face of the earth. There were architectural areas in Iraq dating back to the dawn of civilization and the nutcase levelled it to make halliburton money and steal a country. rofl, couldn't expect they'd destroy their own country? It's been levelled man! There is nothing left to destroy. If you can't get a clue, go down to the library and borrow one.

If there is nothing left to destroy, then:
1) Why the attacks on the local police. Are they trying to disrupt/destroy the local semblance of government/authority?

2) Why the continued attacks on the pipeline and power systems. Are they trying to disrupt the rebuilding of the economy and the abilty for Iraq to generate hard currency flow?

Iraq was not in tatters, they were able to rebuild a lot of their infrastructure over the past 10 years. There were plenty of companies in Europe & Asia tht would gleefully take the petro money in order to gain contracts.

If you seem to feel that American and other lives were lost just so Halliburton could have a couple of extra dollars, you need to re-evalute your propaganda.


that may be your opinion, mine is you need to re-evaluate your government, your president and the long-standing ties he and many of his appointees have with said corporations and oil interests. perhaps your choice of news venue as well. btw, as for the attacks, I don't know as I'm not there, but if the usa raided my country and tried to steal it, I'd be peeved myself, I wouldn't resort to the level of my occupators and start murdering as well, but I'd be pissed. As for the pipeline and power systems, well I'm sure they just don't want madman-bush feeding at that particular trough.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Didn't Rumsfeld say a few months ago that the insurgent attacks were going to get worse the closer we got to the elections? I believe he did so that pretty much turns this story into a strawman.

It does show the depths of fishing the new liberals will go to in order to create an angle, any angle, that they can use to disparage the admin.

Yeah,821 dead since SH was pulled from his hidy hole is us commie Liberals "angle" Get a clue,It doesn't take any "angle" to disparage this group of idiots in the WH,they do just fine on their own.

How many dead since "Bring em on!!"??

 
Originally posted by: Sysbuilder05
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Didn't Rumsfeld say a few months ago that the insurgent attacks were going to get worse the closer we got to the elections? I believe he did so that pretty much turns this story into a strawman.

It does show the depths of fishing the new liberals will go to in order to create an angle, any angle, that they can use to disparage the admin.

Yeah,821 dead since SH was pulled from his hidy hole is us commie Liberals "angle" Get a clue,It doesn't take any "angle" to disparage this group of idiots in the WH,they do just fine on their own.

How many dead since "Bring em on!!"??



What is truly sad, is if you note.. he actually takes the word of a recidivist liar, in challenging someone's point. This is what is frightening. Someone actually still believing the claptrap to come from that administration.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well, Iraq has been a cluster-fvck, but that's been obvious for a while now.



true. off topic.. how sweet is that new g35 coupe ? 😀 298 horsepower, almost at 300 now 🙂 thats an 18hp jump. I know the 350z has more horses and is lighter, but I think its ugly looking, the g35 is a beautiful car 🙂
 
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