Another Democrat Starting Trump Impeachment Process

[Denly]

I believe I can fly
I believe I can touch the sky
I think about it every night and day
Spread my wings and fly away
I believe I can soar
I see me running through that open door
I believe I can fly
I believe I can fly
I believe I can fly

How about quoting the one that fit?

"It don't matter if you're black or white

I am tired of this devil
I am tired of this stuff
I am tired of this business"

 

[digiram]

You know what's funny. If Trump got a BJ in the oval office, he would brag about it at a rally, and his followers would cheer him on. They would probably even make a new song for it "suck that !!!!"

 

[zinfamous]

Way to sugar coat lying under oath. I know he was your guy so nothing he did was wrong. I wonder if you will be as OK with Trump lying under oath, regardless of the reason. Lets just say for example that Trump is brought in to testify about Russia colluding with his election team, and he makes blatant provable lies, you know like he does several times a day. From what I understand the collusion itself is not a crime, buy the lying under oath about it is. Will you be just as OK with trump getting off (no pun intended) as easy as Clinton did if brought up on perjury charges? Will you defend Trump as you do Clinton for the same crime? For the record I was on the impeachment wagon as soon as the votes were tallied.

Oh, Clinton was my guy? Who knew?!

 

[SNC]

That's kind of the whole point isn't it? Can you tell me what bill Clinton was under investigation for? Now what is trump under investigation for? Do you think there is a difference between lying about what you have been investigated for and lying about something totally unrelated to what you were investigated for (especially if the consequences of admitting such actions are completely personal).

I for one think there is a difference.

So its OK to lie under oath? Who determines what is not OK to lie about? In my example I used Trump as lying under oath about something that is NOT illegal. So are you going to be OK when Trump takes the stand and tells a lie under oath about collusion, or will it be another reason for you to want him removed.

 

[SNC]

Oh, Clinton was my guy? Who knew?!

I'm sorry I thought I read some post where you were supporting him, my mistake. Though I'm pretty sure you would not defend Trump if he were to lie under oath, so you see my confusion.

 

[agent00f]

So its OK to lie under oath? Who determines what is not OK to lie about? In my example I used Trump as lying under oath about something that is NOT illegal. So are you going to be OK when Trump takes the stand and tells a lie under oath about collusion, or will it be another reason for you to want him removed.

Haha, totally dishonest shit trying to pretend equivocating about a bj is the same thing as straight up lying about colluding with foreign enemies.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm sorry I thought I read some post where you were supporting him, my mistake. Though I'm pretty sure you would not defend Trump if he were to lie under oath, so you see my confusion.

well if Trump is speaking, he is lying. It's not a problem that you or I need to worry about. Plus, if he's sitting there under oath, it isn't going to be about blow jobs. and yes--the subject is rather important. Yes, it's wrong to lie about blowjobs under oath. But does it fucking matter to you or I? No, it really doesn't. Does it matter if you are lying under oath about your business connections to an aggressive antagonistic state, to lie about defrauding competing businesses and stealing money from contractors? Yes, that actually matters.

 

[SNC]

Haha, totally dishonest shit trying to pretend equivocating about a bj is the same thing as straight up lying about colluding with foreign enemies.

I'm sure you have source for collusion being illegal.

well if Trump is speaking, he is lying. It's not a problem that you or I need to worry about. Plus, if he's sitting there under oath, it isn't going to be about blow jobs. and yes--the subject is rather important. Yes, it's wrong to lie about blowjobs under oath. But does it fucking matter to you or I? No, it really doesn't. Does it matter if you are lying under oath about your business connections to an aggressive antagonistic state, to lie about defrauding competing businesses and stealing money from contractors? Yes, that actually matters.

Stay with me here, I said collusion, nothing else. Are you OK with him lying about a subject that is as equally legal as a blow job? I didn't mention anything about contractors or any of his other shit business dealings, JUST the collusion. A simple yes or no will do.

 

[agent00f]

I'm sure you have source for collusion being illegal.

Stay with me here, I said collusion, nothing else. Are you OK with him lying about a subject that is as equally legal as a blow job? I didn't mention anything about contractors or any of his other shit business dealings, JUST the collusion. A simple yes or no will do.

Seriously, just look at these people.

 

[Younigue]

So its OK to lie under oath? Who determines what is not OK to lie about? In my example I used Trump as lying under oath about something that is NOT illegal. So are you going to be OK when Trump takes the stand and tells a lie under oath about collusion, or will it be another reason for you to want him removed.

I think the point is, is that Clinton should never have been pursued for a blow job to begin with.

 

[Younigue]

I'm sure you have source for collusion being illegal.



Stay with me here, I said collusion, nothing else. Are you OK with him lying about a subject that is as equally legal as a blow job? I didn't mention anything about contractors or any of his other shit business dealings, JUST the collusion. A simple yes or no will do.

A blow job is personal. Colluson is a bit different regardless of legality, no?

 

[SNC]

Seriously, just look at these people.

So I'm gonna go with; you don't have a source for collusion being illegal.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm sure you have source for collusion being illegal.



Stay with me here, I said collusion, nothing else. Are you OK with him lying about a subject that is as equally legal as a blow job? I didn't mention anything about contractors or any of his other shit business dealings, JUST the collusion. A simple yes or no will do.

Trump lying about not receiving a blow job is impossible. Obviously he would and very much as admitted to thousands of blow jobs that he almost certainly never received. So it would go the other way. ...I guess yeah, he'd still be lying about a blowjob, but it would be to attack some innocent woman defending herself from scurrilous tweet from Hair Twitler about how many times she blew him and how she loved it.

 

[SNC]

I think the point is, is that Clinton should never have been pursued for a blow job to begin with.

But he was, I'm not sure the point your trying to make.

 

[SNC]

Trump lying about not receiving a blow job is impossible. Obviously he would and very much as admitted to thousands of blow jobs that he almost certainly never received. So it would go the other way. ...I guess yeah, he'd still be lying about a blowjob, but it would be to attack some innocent woman defending herself from scurrilous tweet from Hair Twitler about how many times she blew him and how she loved it.

I'm not sure if that was a yes or a no. Care to clarify?

 

[agent00f]

So I'm gonna go with; you don't have a source for collusion being illegal.

LOL, not just a charlottesville type nazi, but a semantic one. Yes the criminal activities the trumps are accused of colluding on are illegal: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/12/what-is-collusion-215366. Literally the first google hit for "is collusion illegal".

 

[Younigue]

But he was, I'm not sure the point your trying to make.

Really?

If he weren't pursued he wouldn't have lied to anyone but Hillary. Yes it happened, yes he lied but you asked what the difference was. Personal vs. Country/Government/The Trust Of The People. Way back when Clinton got his Oval Blow Job, I didn't care then, I didn't care that he lied about it, I didn't want to know about it. That was between him, his wife and Monica. Was it poor taste and decision making, sure but no where near lying about collusion. It would absolutely be a lie I would care about, weirdo. Are you going to stop being silly now?

 

[SNC]

LOL, not just a charlottesville type nazi, but a semantic one. Yes the criminal activities the trumps are accused of colluding on are illegal: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/12/what-is-collusion-215366. Literally the first google hit for "is collusion illegal".

You might want to go and actually read that link, and come back. It makes my case for me.

If the Trump campaign conspired with or assisted the Russians in hacking the emails of John Podesta or the Democratic National Committee, the crime is clear. But beyond that, it is anything but clear. We do not have a federal statute punishing corrupt efforts to influence an election, unless done by particular prohibited acts such as vote buying or illegal political contributions. That is undoubtedly wise, because such a law would spur frequent criminal complaints against opponents by losers and even some winners of elections.

So again. Can you provide a LAW, an actual law not a web page saying it is, that prohibits collusion I'll gladly admit I am wrong. But you guys are getting way too far into the weeds here. The question is if someone lies under oath, why does it matter what it is about? Quit trying to change the focus of my question.

 

[SNC]

Really?

If he weren't pursued he wouldn't have lied to anyone but Hillary. Yes it happened, yes he lied but you asked what the difference was. Personal vs. Country/Government/The Trust Of The People. Way back when Clinton got his Oval Blow Job, I didn't care then, I didn't care that he lied about it, I didn't want to know about it. That was between him, his wife and Monica. Was it poor taste and decision making, sure but no where near lying about collusion. It would absolutely be a lie I would care about, weirdo. Are you going to stop being silly now?

Would you feel the same way if your spouse lied under oath about blowing your pool boy during your divorce proceedings and that lie cause you to lose the house and boat. Not a problem.

 

[agent00f]

You might want to go and actually read that link, and come back. It makes my case for me.



So again. Can you provide a LAW, an actual law not a web page saying it is, that prohibits collusion I'll gladly admit I am wrong. But you guys are getting way too far into the weeds here. The question is if someone lies under oath, why does it matter what it is about? Quit trying to change the focus of my question.

Just look at your dishonest degenerate ass pretending to distance yourself from trump yet shilling for him right after. At least 10 legal opinions citing criminal conspiracy and of course you pick one by this guy, titled right above your quote:

William Jeffress is a white-collar defense attorney at Baker Botts. He represented I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby in the Valerie Plame affair.

I'll give you a few days or weeks to research how convincing his defense was in that trial.

 

[Younigue]

Would you feel the same way if your spouse lied under oath about blowing your pool boy during your divorce proceedings and that lie cause you to lose the house and boat. Not a problem.

Ummm, do you know something about my husband? Also, when did I get a pool? And since I wasn't aware we have one, I think a pool boy hanging around would arouse my suspicions. You're assuming I'd divorce him. Nah, I've assured him we're in it for the long haul. He believes me. Holy crAP! We have a boat? I would definitely hate to lose it!

Joking aside (kinda)... Did America lose a house and a boat because Bill & Monica behaved inappropriately? However did we recover?

 

[SNC]

Just look at your dishonest degenerate ass pretending to distance yourself from trump yet shilling for him right after. At least 10 legal opinions citing criminal conspiracy and of course you pick one by this guy, titled right above your quote:

William Jeffress is a white-collar defense attorney at Baker Botts. He represented I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby in the Valerie Plame affair.

I'll give you a few days or weeks to research how convincing his defense was in that trial.

Ok if you didn't like that quote from the link YOU provided, how about this one? If you are going to provide a link to back up your assertions make sure you tell me what you want me to ignore.

‘The more likely crimes have occurred through false and misleading statements’
Laurie L. Levenson is professor of law and David W. Burcham chair of ethical advocacy at Loyola Law School. She was formerly an assistant U.S. attorney in Los Angeles.

I honestly don’t know whether the so-called collusion in this case was a crime, in part, because this story keeps morphing. Trying to get dirt on an opposing candidate is not necessarily a crime. However, making false statements to government officials can be. I think the more likely crimes have occurred through false and misleading statements to government officials throughout this probe, but Robert Mueller will have to determine whether that occurred. Generally, it is the easiest crime to prove.

Finally, it is good to keep in mind that there is no crime of “collusion” in the federal code. The applicable crime is conspiracy under 18 USC Sec. 371. That would cover a conspiracy by two or more persons to violate a law of the United States or “to defraud the United States.” You need an election law specialist to tell you whether asking the Russians for negative information on Hillary Clinton violated federal law. The question of whether there has been a scheme “to defraud the United States” is a more interesting one. Generally, that portion of the statute is used for financial crimes. However, who knows what a creative prosecutor might seek to use it for?

 

[SNC]

Ummm, do you know something about my husband? Also, when did I get a pool? And since I wasn't aware we have one, I think a pool boy hanging around would arouse my suspicions. You're assuming I'd divorce him. Nah, I've assured him we're in it for the long haul. He believes me. Holy crAP! We have a boat? I would definitely hate to lose it!

Joking aside (kinda)... Did America lose a house and a boat because Bill & Monica behaved inappropriately? However did we recover?

Cute but you didn't answer the question. And you really didn't know about the boat?

 

[Younigue]

Cute but you didn't answer the question. And you really didn't know about the boat?

Well, in a very personal way I would be devastated but it would be my own personal devastation that I wouldn't want the entire country/world in on. Does that answer your question?

No, I did not know about the boat! Imagine my husband's surprise when he got home from work and I laid in to him. The Effer is pretending he knows nothing of any such boat. He's clearly a liar and I told him who gave me the head's up about the boat. He claims he doesn't even know who you are! Likely story!... Divorce pending... Wait, there's a knock at the door. GOD Dammit it's the pool boy! I think I hear my husband's belt being undone off in the distance. There's also a certain gleam in the pool boy's eye, if you catch my drift.

What have you done SNC? You're a creepy little psychic ain'tchu?

 

[SNC]

Well, in a very personal way I would be devastated but it would be my own personal devastation that I wouldn't want the entire country/world in on. Does that answer your question?

No, I did not know about the boat! Imagine my husband's surprise when he got home from work and I laid in to him. The Effer is pretending he knows nothing of any such boat. He's clearly a liar and I told him who gave me the head's up about the boat. He claims he doesn't even know who you are! Likely story!... Divorce pending... Wait, there's a knock at the door. GOD Dammit it's the pool boy! I think I hear my husband's belt being undone off in the distance. There's also a certain gleam in the pool boy's eye, if you catch my drift.

What have you done SNC? You're a creepy little psychic ain'tchu?

I like you. You really didn't answer the question, but I'm into my 3rd bottle of mead, so it's all good. Perhaps we can get you and your hubby along with the poolboy on an overnight boat trip, I wont tell a soul about what happens. It'll be like going to Vegas.