Don Vito Corleone
Elite
I have not been a frequent poster here for a while, but my memory is that ProJo was at least a reasonably bright person. It's possible you're right, however.
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Another Dem Chariman bites the dust due to Voting Fraud
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I have not been a frequent poster here for a while, but my memory is that ProJo was at least a reasonably bright person. It's possible you're right, however.
cybrsage
Lifer
He is not a politiican. He is the chairman of the Indiana Democratic Party. Dem works just as well as that.
No, I never claimed that. Stop reading what Vito pretends is true and then also claim that is true and read what I actually wrote. I will repost it for you, since you have trouble reading it:
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You are a being a little too fresh! Slow down, buy me dinner first.
Don Vito Corleone
Elite
Let me break this down:
When a Democrat is accused of election fraud, your response is a thread titled "Another Dem bites the dust due to Voter Fraud."
When a Republican is accused of election fraud, party no longer matters:
I don't see how these things can be reconciled without a measure of hypocrisy on your part. You can pretend all you want not to understand what we mean, but I don't believe you are that stupid or that obtuse (though admittedly you push the envelope when it comes to the latter).
When a Democrat is accused of election fraud, your response is a thread titled "Another Dem bites the dust due to Voter Fraud."
When a Republican is accused of election fraud, party no longer matters:
I don't see how these things can be reconciled without a measure of hypocrisy on your part. You can pretend all you want not to understand what we mean, but I don't believe you are that stupid or that obtuse (though admittedly you push the envelope when it comes to the latter).
cybrsage
Lifer
It was not relative to any specific person. It was actually quite vague.
Hey, I am not the one who said racist offensive comments are wrong but sexist offensive comments are not only fine, but not actually offensive (using some made up definition that you created on the spot).
Yes, but like a child you continue to let it blind your judgement. When you become a grown up, you will realize it makes you the fool.
If you dislike the effects of your odd view, maybe you should either change it or stop telling people about it.
If the shoe fits...
Of course you do, because you are unhappy when someone exposes when you are wrong.
Are you still trying to pretend I said what you invented, or are you willing yet to admit I said exactly what I quoted myself saying?
Are you still a child, or have you grown up some yet?
cybrsage
Lifer
Never claimed the latter. That is your invention. You are still butt-sore because you are not used to losing when you play with words.
I know, I know, it is hard to continue to "win" if you do not invent false points to attack, but it does make you look foolish when you do it.
That is because you are purposefully being stupid...oh, and inventing things never claimed.
Of course I understand what you mean. It is obvious you invent somethign I never claimed, then repeat it over and over in the hopes I give up and let you pretend I actually said it. You are not used to people calling you out when you invent things, but that is what is happeneing.
Get used to it, or stop inventing things not claimed.
cybrsage
Lifer
OK...lets break this down more for you. I did not expect to have to go to kindergarden level, but here it is:
"Criminals losing due to their criminal actions is a good thing." This means it is good that criminals are punished in one form or another...be it by the law, Karma, sullied reputation, or whatever.
"D or R makes no difference where the law is concerned. " This means it does not matter if a person id a democrat or a republican, they should be punished for breaking the law.
I fully expect you to still pretend I said party only matters if a D did something wrong...but the above statement shows you are making that up.
"Criminals losing due to their criminal actions is a good thing." This means it is good that criminals are punished in one form or another...be it by the law, Karma, sullied reputation, or whatever.
"D or R makes no difference where the law is concerned. " This means it does not matter if a person id a democrat or a republican, they should be punished for breaking the law.
I fully expect you to still pretend I said party only matters if a D did something wrong...but the above statement shows you are making that up.
Don Vito Corleone
Elite
Arguing with you is like punching the air - you refuse to even accept the consequences of your own positions, and you stake out imaginary positions that make no sense, then act as though they are the gospel.
I will say this one last time. I do have a problem with racist comments. I do not have a problem with people using gender-specific words, even very crude ones, where they are merited. You claim to have "proved" this is somehow wrong because you disagree with it. For your part, you think racist comments are wrong because they're profane, not because they reflect discriminatory intent, and have a problem with profane terms that you don't have with racial jokes. You say you are "right" in this position based on what you say are dictionary definitions of things. It's just insanity.
You know full well that your posts in this thread reflect hypocrisy, but you won't admit it, nor will you even admit the consequences that necessarily flow from what you've said.
I have been a respected member of this forum since the day it began, which was more than 8 years ago. You are a buffoon who has been here for less than a month, but still believe you are entitled to hold yourself out as the arbiter of what should occur here.
I have tried to treat you with respect but you make that impossible. At this point I can only assume you are a knowing troll who is doing nothing but locking horns just to get a rise. I can't have a serious discussion with someone like that.
I will say this one last time. I do have a problem with racist comments. I do not have a problem with people using gender-specific words, even very crude ones, where they are merited. You claim to have "proved" this is somehow wrong because you disagree with it. For your part, you think racist comments are wrong because they're profane, not because they reflect discriminatory intent, and have a problem with profane terms that you don't have with racial jokes. You say you are "right" in this position based on what you say are dictionary definitions of things. It's just insanity.
You know full well that your posts in this thread reflect hypocrisy, but you won't admit it, nor will you even admit the consequences that necessarily flow from what you've said.
I have been a respected member of this forum since the day it began, which was more than 8 years ago. You are a buffoon who has been here for less than a month, but still believe you are entitled to hold yourself out as the arbiter of what should occur here.
I have tried to treat you with respect but you make that impossible. At this point I can only assume you are a knowing troll who is doing nothing but locking horns just to get a rise. I can't have a serious discussion with someone like that.
Sigh. The guy was intent on resigning this year, and it's December. His resignation wasn't fallout from the allegations of fraud, but the furor and false attribution are.
The guy was headed out the door anyway when Faux News swiped him with the tar brush... chumped you and the usual cadre of followers in the process.
cybrsage
Lifer
When you invent things I never claimed, you should not expect to be successful in arguing that I claimed them. It is foolish to think otherwise.
Are you used to doing that and getting away with it? That would certainly explain why you are so mad.
That is what I said. Thank you for agreeing with me. You are fine with the use of offensive words that you personally deem acceptable, but not fine with the use of offensive words that you personally deem unacceptable.
It is not insanity to expect the dictionary to have the proper meaning of a word. It IS insanity to claim that YOUR definition is the right one and the dictionary is wrong.
There you go, pretending I made claims that I never actually made. You are using a sentence where I say Dems and Reps are the same to show that I say they are not. Yeah...you are showing that insanity thing again.
This does not allow you to pretend I said things I did not say. If anything, it actually means you should NOT make up things like that.
Pretending I made claims I never made is being respectful? Wow...no wonder you are so hateful. You are not used to someone telling you that creating lies is wrong. Guess what, lying is wrong. Get used to being told this whenever you do it. It might be something you are not used to hearing, but that is changing.
cybrsage
Lifer
Do you have something from long before the accusations started to fly which shows this?
If you do, then I will happily say I was wrong. Unlike Don, I can admit when I am wrong.
Don Vito Corleone
Elite
As several other members have agreed, your posts in this thread reflect clear-cut hypocrisy. Rather than saying the same thing again and again, I will let you maintain your air of self-righteousness with full knowledge that you know what I am talking about, and thus are arguing just to argue.
Seriously, I give you the benefit of the doubt that you have a working mind and an interest in politics. I encourage you to try to be a productive and thoughtful member here. We have some good discussions. I don't pretend to be perfect, but I try to think things through and write as clearly as I can. I know many other members do the same. Please try to do this and you may yet be a valued member of this forum.
Seriously, I give you the benefit of the doubt that you have a working mind and an interest in politics. I encourage you to try to be a productive and thoughtful member here. We have some good discussions. I don't pretend to be perfect, but I try to think things through and write as clearly as I can. I know many other members do the same. Please try to do this and you may yet be a valued member of this forum.
cybrsage
Lifer
They are parotting you. You invented something never claimed. Repeating a lie over and over does not make it the truth, provided you are called out on it each time.
I provide you the same benefit of the doubt. I do not, however, allow people to make up things and pretend I claimed them. Simply do not do this and I will not call you out for doing it. If you think creating lies is being productive and thoughtful, I have to tell you that you are doing it wrong.
Simply do not lie about things I never claimed and I will have to call you out on it. It really is not hard.
BoomerD
No Lifer
On this, we definitely agree. Corrupt is corrupt, it doesn't matter what the party affiliation.
Political corruption should carry the death penalty.
cybrsage
Lifer
I definately agree. I would extend it to the police and all other government employees. If the crime was not worth the punishment, they would stop doing it.
Don Vito Corleone
Elite
All I did was quote you. You, on the one hand, wrote "Another Dem bites the dust" when a Democrat is accused of voter fraud, but when confronted with a Republican (in the same state, no less) accused of the same thing, you said "Criminals losing due to their criminal actions is a good thing. D or R makes no difference where the law is concerned."
I get that you will never agree that this is hypocrisy, but your denials don't change what you yourself wrote. I am mystified that you would even have the temerity to claim this is not hypocrisy, but leaving that aside, you claim you can't even see how anyone could view this as hypocritical. That I cannot abide. It's like arguing in the Bizarro World.
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I don't, but I wouldn't even attempt to question Howey's credibility-
http://howeypolitics.com/main.asp?SectionID=39
cybrsage
Lifer
OK...lets break this down more for you. I did not expect to have to go to kindergarden level, but here it is:
"Criminals losing due to their criminal actions is a good thing." This means it is good that criminals are punished in one form or another...be it by the law, Karma, sullied reputation, or whatever.
"D or R makes no difference where the law is concerned. " This means it does not matter if a person id a democrat or a republican, they should be punished for breaking the law.
I fully expect you to still pretend I said party only matters if a D did something wrong...but the above statement shows you are making that up.
cybrsage
Lifer
Yes, you are right. That would be more correct. My title was not wrong, but that is more correct. I changed the thread title to reflect this.
Vito is absolutely wrong, and his butt-soreness is tainting his vision, making him post stupid things.
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cybrsage
Lifer
Ah, too bad. I do question his credibility, especially when he resigns shortly after this:
Still, why did you provide a link to that story?
CrackRabbit
Lifer
That is because you are arguing with a troll. His only joy in life is to annoy people, in this case you.
He doesn't care about how hypocritical his statements are, or anything else as long as what he is saying is pushing someones buttons.
There are two ways to fight trolls, ignore them and hope they get bored and leave. Or troll them back, and gain joy for yourself from knowing you are annoying them.
cybrsage
Lifer
Wait in line, no need to be pushy. You will get your turn.
CrackRabbit
Lifer
Trust me big boy. When I get done with you, you won't be able to sit down for a week. 😉
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