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another CPU naming rant

frozentundra123456

frozentundra123456

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Just when I thought Intel had a clear naming scheme for their Sandy Bridge CPUs. That is I3 dual core, I5 quad w/o HT, I7 quad with HT.

I saw an HP comp advertized on best buys weekly ad today. The processor was an I5 2390T. Wow, nice quad sandy bridge for reasonable price, right???

Wrong. Turns out this is a dual core. Even worse it is a dual core with a 35 w TDP. So it is probably slower than an I3. Just when I thought I had the lineup figured out.

And why would HP put this processor in a desktop? It might have a place in an all-in-one or HPTC, but why in a tower??
 
for laptop cpus, the i3/i5/i7 branding doesn't have any correlation to 2/4 core/HTs

best is for you to check with ark.intel.com
 
Intel was shipping I5 dual cores since Clarkdale , Jan 10'

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Now if we were talking about Phenom II's without L3....
 
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That was my first impression but I soon found out that the mobile version of SB are not what we come to expect of the desktop version. There are even several dual cores for mobile i7's and makes me wonder why even bother naming it an i5 or an i7 even if it has only 2 cores, why not just name it an i3.

It is best that you double check with Ark Intel when it comes to the mobile version as there is a mix between dual and quads for mobile i7's and all of mobile i5's are 2C4T.

I laughed when friends of mine were bragging about their i5 SB based laptops with their quaddies just to be told by me that they are actually only 2 cores with 4 threads. 😛
 
frozentundra123456 said:
That is I3 dual core, I5 quad w/o HT, I7 quad with HT.
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Same, but then their was a early i5 desktop that was a dual core as well. As mentioned the laptops are all over the place.

Heck, for a while I thought i7 was ht and triple channel (ie: best of everything), but then the i7-8xx came out and shot that way of thinking quite well.

It is all just marketing as it is not based on actual features that are worth mentioning.
 
In my opinion IMO...
Theres 64 intel cpu variants... I bet its hidden in a secret place @ Intel HQ... I bet you they have Ivy Core ready to go, but want to make more money off Sandy. Then come out with new stuff, thx gg
 
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People will just look at an i7 and an i5 and automatically think the i7 is a million times better without looking at the actual specs.

I have seen idiots in another forum saying the Arrandale i3 is the worse chip when the base clock is higher than another i5. It's hilariously easy to rip people off in the computing world.
 
I started to completely ignore the naming scheme of Intel and AMD CPUs long time ago. There is little logic in their marketing.
 
Intels naming scheme is pretty much entirely random at this point. For example, i7 covers no less than 6 different architectures (Arrandale, Clarkdale, Lynnfield, Bloomfield, Gulftown and Sandy Bridge), and can be anything from a low voltage dual core to a high performance hexa core. Unless you follow the releases religiously, you're pretty much going to have to look it up online to figure out which processor is which, because the name isn't going to tell you.
 
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The following would've made perfect sense for SB:

i7 branding goes to quad-cores with HT.
i5 branding goes to quad-cores without HT.
i3 branding goes to dual-cores with HT.
Pentium branding goes to dual-cores without HT.
Celeron branding goes to single-cores with HT.

Each branding would actually manage to differentiate itself from the others performance-wise. Instead we have Pentiums and Celerons that perform similarly, i3s and i5s that perform similarly, and a mobile lineup that makes absolutely no sense.

Intel's mobile lineup seems to be tagged based on arbitrary clock speeds, just like AMD does. "Clock speed 'A' to 'B' is Athlon. 'B' to 'C' is Turion. 'C' to 'D' is Phenom."
 
pantsaregood said:
The following would've made perfect sense for SB:

i7 branding goes to quad-cores with HT.
i5 branding goes to quad-cores without HT.
i3 branding goes to dual-cores with HT.
Pentium branding goes to dual-cores without HT.
Celeron branding goes to single-cores with HT.

Each branding would actually manage to differentiate itself from the others performance-wise. Instead we have Pentiums and Celerons that perform similarly, i3s and i5s that perform similarly, and a mobile lineup that makes absolutely no sense.

Intel's mobile lineup seems to be tagged based on arbitrary clock speeds, just like AMD does. "Clock speed 'A' to 'B' is Athlon. 'B' to 'C' is Turion. 'C' to 'D' is Phenom."
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Sense and logic are unknown concepts to marketing departments.
 
One thing every one is forgetting to make the naming scheme work... BOOZE 🙂 and looking at it sidways
 
pantsaregood said:
The following would've made perfect sense for SB:

i7 branding goes to quad-cores with HT.
i5 branding goes to quad-cores without HT.
i3 branding goes to dual-cores with HT.
Pentium branding goes to dual-cores without HT.
Celeron branding goes to single-cores with HT.

Each branding would actually manage to differentiate itself from the others performance-wise. Instead we have Pentiums and Celerons that perform similarly, i3s and i5s that perform similarly, and a mobile lineup that makes absolutely no sense.

Intel's mobile lineup seems to be tagged based on arbitrary clock speeds, just like AMD does. "Clock speed 'A' to 'B' is Athlon. 'B' to 'C' is Turion. 'C' to 'D' is Phenom."
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I'm not sure where I read it and whether it was confirmed or just a rumour, but the apparently the SB-E is going to be named Core i7 as well. Maybe Core i7 2700K or something.
 
Skurge said:
I'm not sure where I read it and whether it was confirmed or just a rumour, but the apparently the SB-E is going to be named Core i7 as well. Maybe Core i7 2700K or something.
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They will be i7s. The six-core i7s on 1366 were originally going to be marketed as "Core i9," but Intel decided that made entirely too much sense.

i7 EE branding could be reserved for six-core variants. i7 would still refer to quad-cores with HT. That isn't going to happen, however.
 
Skurge said:
I'm not sure where I read it and whether it was confirmed or just a rumour, but the apparently the SB-E is going to be named Core i7 as well. Maybe Core i7 2700K or something.
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proberly more likly to be a i7-2920K at the lower end.

(the one that is ment to be priced at the 2600K level anyway).
 
frozentundra123456 said:
Just when I thought Intel had a clear naming scheme for their Sandy Bridge CPUs. That is I3 dual core, I5 quad w/o HT, I7 quad with HT.

I saw an HP comp advertized on best buys weekly ad today. The processor was an I5 2390T. Wow, nice quad sandy bridge for reasonable price, right???

Wrong. Turns out this is a dual core. Even worse it is a dual core with a 35 w TDP. So it is probably slower than an I3. Just when I thought I had the lineup figured out.

And why would HP put this processor in a desktop? It might have a place in an all-in-one or HPTC, but why in a tower??
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It looks like an i3 with HT...

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=53448

I'd rather have a true quad core i5 for about the same price.
 
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