You were the one that decided to add color into the equation. The poster was commenting on people acting foolish. In this case, if the person shot down was white and there were white protestors, they would be idiots too.
You were the one that decided to add color into the equation. The poster was commenting on people acting foolish. In this case, if the person shot down was white and there were white protestors, they would be idiots too.
That's a little like saying that David Koresh is counterproductive for the white community.
It's only if you assign the actions of a very few to all blacks that it affects all of them.
lupi
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Oh come on mr diversion, next you're going to talk about how the blacks enslaved other blacks, the browns enslaved other browns, and the whites enslaved other whites for hundreds if not thousands of years before that whole whites taking blacks thing started.
Moonbeam, you are so full of shit I can smell you over the internet. Every post on here about black-on-black and black-on-*insert race here* violence is justified by you as payment for slavery. Get a fucking clue, you racist shill. You can't see the forest for the trees and the plight of the black man supercedes all and gives a free pass for all kinds of violence, hand-outs, and freebies. Unless you haven't bothered to do any reading other than Roots and Roots: The Next Generation, you'd know that many other races that were persecuted against have risen up rather than tearing themselves down...yes, even white Europeans *gasp*.
By the way...since you love to throw slavery at everyone on the boards here as a defense...remember it was AFRICANS that had a thriving slave trade internally within their own country before Europeans ever stepped foot on their soil. It was AFRICANS that benefitted from exporting slaves via EUROPEANS. I won't try to play down the part that early American history has played with regards to racism on our own soil. Yes, bad things were done and CANNOT be atoned for. There are two kinds of people in the world today...those that use color as a crutch and those that don't...you're one that does.
Blacks have two choices just like everyone else...make something of yourself or do nothing and blame everyone and everything for it. You seem to belive there is a third choice...guilt others into arbitrarily giving because of past transgressions.
Go join the Rainbow Coalition and suck on Jesse and Al's teets. They love those like you who yearn to taste their sweet sweet propaganda...you're extactly why they still get any airtime at all. Pathetic.
I'm AA myself and I'm really tired of hearing these excuses. Excuses, excuses, excuses is all everybody has nowadays. Nobody wants to be responsible for their own actions. This guy is a murderer and rapist and you have people marching for him SOLEY because he's black. That's bullshit. They're not looking beyond his skin color at all. IMHO, that's as bad as any other racists.
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Aikouka
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I really don't see how this is a valid point when nothing I've seen regarding this has talked about any of the parties being racist via association or action. Now, you may be able to chalk it up to prior actions by the Oakland Police Department seen as possibly racially-charged.
To me, it looks like instead of looking at the situation for what it is, these protesters merely see "white cop kills black guy." They aren't looking at the back story behind any of it, because after all the events they've seen, they don't want to. To them, this is just another reason to lash out at the people they see as unfair and biased oppressors.
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What drugs are you on? No one marched over the death of David Koresh, and race had no part in that situation.
What DID make people angry was the government action. The party that was attacked was really not that important in the overall equation.
This is very different because the police did'nt just "gun this guy down". He killed two officers in a ruitine traffic stop, and then fought the SWAT team later on.
Get your facts straight.
Not only did you miss the point of the analogy, you did so obnoxiously. You may as well have complained about the analogy by saying this shooter wasn't named Koresh.
The analogy had nothing to do with the logistics of the incidents, and everything to do with whether the behavior of a small number in a group is attributed to the whole group.
It's like saying that all (fill your race in here) people have problems with analogies based on your having a problem. Many blacks disagree with those protestors.
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TheFamilyMan:
Moonbeam, you are so full of shit I can smell you over the internet.
M: That's not very nice.
TFM: Every post on here about black-on-black and black-on-*insert race here* violence is justified by you as payment for slavery.
M: What do you mean by every post on here? Do you mean in this thread, on this board?
TFM: Get a fucking clue, you racist shill.
M: I'm about to suggest you may be the racists, as you will soon see.
TFM: You can't see the forest for the trees and the plight of the black man supercedes all and gives a free pass for all kinds of violence, hand-outs, and freebies.
M: Here you're just being irrational, botting typical right winged garbage, and using your butt cheeks for lips. Nobody said anything about a free pass. If somebody steals a car because the keys were in it that doesn't make it right to steel it. It just explains why in that case it happened. You have to learn to think or as you said, get a fucking clue. Of course I am quite used to the clueless accusing me of that.
TFM: Unless you haven't bothered to do any reading other than Roots and Roots: The Next Generation, you'd know that many other races that were persecuted against have risen up rather than tearing themselves down...yes, even white Europeans *gasp*.
M: I know more than people who write books so I don't do much reading these days.
TFM: By the way...since you love to throw slavery at everyone on the boards here as a defense...remember it was AFRICANS that had a thriving slave trade internally within their own country before Europeans ever stepped foot on their soil. It was AFRICANS that benefitted from exporting slaves via EUROPEANS. I won't try to play down the part that early American history has played with regards to racism on our own soil.
M: I know all that. It has nothing to do with anything that I said. Again, I do not throw slavery at anybody. I mentioned it as a cause like the keys in a car. You, like some moron who left his keys in his car and had it stolen, are of course ashamed of your own stupidity and as soon as the cause is suggested to you, you react like a child avoiding that fact. You feel stupid so you can't just see that it was the keys in the car that caused it to be stolen. You are personally involved.
It is the same with the slavery issue. You have guilt that you reject and it makes you angry when I mention slavery. It pushes your buttons. It's why you reacted so childishly to my posts. I wanted to show that to Skoorb. These nut cases in Oakland make some fuss and people all over explode with rage and indignity because they are still caught up with guilt.
I don't react that way. I am not a racist and I know it. Black people can say I am all they want and I don't give a shit. You can too to the same effect. I know you and Skoorb and all the other nuts that react to these black loons are all reacting to them out of self hate. I know more than you do. I know what is really happening. I know it and I know you do not. Nothing you do or say can change that. I paid for my knowledge at the cost of everything I had. But I can show how you are by mentioning slavery and watching you go insane.
TFM: Yes, bad things were done and CANNOT be atoned for. There are two kinds of people in the world today...those that use color as a crutch and those that don't...you're one that does.
M: I don't need a crutch. I am free from race. I am only a human like everybody else. Think? Why are blacks statistically behind in the pursuit of middle classdom? If it is not hundreds of years of inculcating inferiority in them or is it because they are really inferior? That would be the conclusion I would have to draw if it's not that their relative poverty isn't culturally passed. Perhaps it is really you who is the racist.
TFM: Blacks have two choices just like everyone else...make something of yourself or do nothing and blame everyone and everything for it. You seem to belive there is a third choice...guilt others into arbitrarily giving because of past transgressions.
M: You are ignorant so you see limited choices. There is a third way. It is getting past your self hate by knowing it and how it got there. What you are is a complete accident. You are too full of yourself to know it, too full of self hate to see how you need to pat yourself on the back for being what you had no choice in.
TFM: Go join the Rainbow Coalition and suck on Jesse and Al's teets. They love those like you who yearn to taste their sweet sweet propaganda...you're extactly why they still get any airtime at all. Pathetic.
M: It is always the pathetic that call me pathetic. Being free of racism allows me to think clearly but your hidden guilt makes you crazy. These folk mean nothing to me out of the ordinary but they sure are up your ass.
Moonbeam, you are so full of shit I can smell you over the internet.
M: That's not very nice.
TFM: Every post on here about black-on-black and black-on-*insert race here* violence is justified by you as payment for slavery.
M: What do you mean by every post on here? Do you mean in this thread, on this board?
TFM: Get a fucking clue, you racist shill.
M: I'm about to suggest you may be the racists, as you will soon see.
TFM: You can't see the forest for the trees and the plight of the black man supercedes all and gives a free pass for all kinds of violence, hand-outs, and freebies.
M: Here you're just being irrational, botting typical right winged garbage, and using your butt cheeks for lips. Nobody said anything about a free pass. If somebody steals a car because the keys were in it that doesn't make it right to steel it. It just explains why in that case it happened. You have to learn to think or as you said, get a fucking clue. Of course I am quite used to the clueless accusing me of that.
TFM: Unless you haven't bothered to do any reading other than Roots and Roots: The Next Generation, you'd know that many other races that were persecuted against have risen up rather than tearing themselves down...yes, even white Europeans *gasp*.
M: I know more than people who write books so I don't do much reading these days.
TFM: By the way...since you love to throw slavery at everyone on the boards here as a defense...remember it was AFRICANS that had a thriving slave trade internally within their own country before Europeans ever stepped foot on their soil. It was AFRICANS that benefitted from exporting slaves via EUROPEANS. I won't try to play down the part that early American history has played with regards to racism on our own soil.
M: I know all that. It has nothing to do with anything that I said. Again, I do not throw slavery at anybody. I mentioned it as a cause like the keys in a car. You, like some moron who left his keys in his car and had it stolen, are of course ashamed of your own stupidity and as soon as the cause is suggested to you, you react like a child avoiding that fact. You feel stupid so you can't just see that it was the keys in the car that caused it to be stolen. You are personally involved.
It is the same with the slavery issue. You have guilt that you reject and it makes you angry when I mention slavery. It pushes your buttons. It's why you reacted so childishly to my posts. I wanted to show that to Skoorb. These nut cases in Oakland make some fuss and people all over explode with rage and indignity because they are still caught up with guilt.
I don't react that way. I am not a racist and I know it. Black people can say I am all they want and I don't give a shit. You can too to the same effect. I know you and Skoorb and all the other nuts that react to these black loons are all reacting to them out of self hate. I know more than you do. I know what is really happening. I know it and I know you do not. Nothing you do or say can change that. I paid for my knowledge at the cost of everything I had. But I can show how you are by mentioning slavery and watching you go insane.
TFM: Yes, bad things were done and CANNOT be atoned for. There are two kinds of people in the world today...those that use color as a crutch and those that don't...you're one that does.
M: I don't need a crutch. I am free from race. I am only a human like everybody else. Think? Why are blacks statistically behind in the pursuit of middle classdom? If it is not hundreds of years of inculcating inferiority in them or is it because they are really inferior? That would be the conclusion I would have to draw if it's not that their relative poverty isn't culturally passed. Perhaps it is really you who is the racist.
TFM: Blacks have two choices just like everyone else...make something of yourself or do nothing and blame everyone and everything for it. You seem to belive there is a third choice...guilt others into arbitrarily giving because of past transgressions.
M: You are ignorant so you see limited choices. There is a third way. It is getting past your self hate by knowing it and how it got there. What you are is a complete accident. You are too full of yourself to know it, too full of self hate to see how you need to pat yourself on the back for being what you had no choice in.
TFM: Go join the Rainbow Coalition and suck on Jesse and Al's teets. They love those like you who yearn to taste their sweet sweet propaganda...you're extactly why they still get any airtime at all. Pathetic.
M: It is always the pathetic that call me pathetic. Being free of racism allows me to think clearly but your hidden guilt makes you crazy. These folk mean nothing to me out of the ordinary but they sure are up your ass.
Actually he was locked up for a car-jacking of which he beat and shot at the truck driver he jacked. Previous to that he had a record for assaults and other crimes as a juvenile. Along with the rapes he was also suspected of the murder of another man prior to his rampage against the OPD.There is also the other crap in life he may of done but we may never of found out about because he was never arrested.
Oh and the vigil held for the for slain police officers drew about 15x more residents and supporters. What you had in the OP's link were the fringe elements (The professional activists in the Bay Area who protest everything and anything.)and the delusional family and friends of that piece of thug trash who think this guy was somehow a victim in life and not a monster.
I agree but I think there is a growing "Silent Majority" that is waking up to the madness and saying "Enough is Enough". Those in the OP's links are folks who are enablers ( aka Poverty Pimps in the far left movement ) and the delusional section 8 "lifers" with a perpetual "victim mentality".
Below are pictures of the vigil for the slain OPD officers. Note the many AA people and organizations who attended because they realized that something wholly wrong was committed against these officers trying to server their community. These folks obviously realize that "Enough is Enough" and that their community and those trying to serve and better it are more important then upholding the status quo.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/...3/25/MNJP16MF1U.DTL&o=
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