Another "Are You Sick Of" Thread : Jimmy Carter

[SlowSS]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: SlowSS

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.

Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law

That was way after the hostage crisis.

And yes, Reagan certainly deserves criticism for breaking laws to assist Contras.

No it wasn't. It was during. Your timetable is skewed.
That wasn't just criticism, it was convictions (for members of his staff) for importation of cocaine, lying to congress, obstruction of justice, to name but a few.

Did Reagan get convicted? NO.

 

[thebestMAX]

See what happens when you think. Leave the thinking to those who can. /Q]

Red-
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA Couldnt have said it better myself. My compliments.

Moonbeam-
You just posted exactly what I predicted to myself you would. Move over, Miss Cleo, you have competition!

AlienCraft-
Any facts to back up that speculation?

On to read the rest of the posts.

EDIT: Ok, I read them now YOU go back and read the quote I posted earlier here from George Will.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's not that hard to know what I'm going to post, TheBest. Everybody is unconsciously aware of the truth. You just tap in, occasionally.
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"Go easy on Carter. He wants to be remembered for something other than his pathetic presidential term, so naturally he is in overdrive right now desperately trying to build a new legacy centered on his activities *after* leaving office. Once you view his recent statements in that light they appear more sad than annoying."
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Geez, exp, I got used to you saying something intelligent.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: SlowSS

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: SlowSS

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.

Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law

That was way after the hostage crisis.

And yes, Reagan certainly deserves criticism for breaking laws to assist Contras.

No it wasn't. It was during. Your timetable is skewed.
That wasn't just criticism, it was convictions (for members of his staff) for importation of cocaine, lying to congress, obstruction of justice, to name but a few.

Did Reagan get convicted? NO.

Did O.J.?

 

[MinorityReport]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.

Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law

The igonrant never learn ..l mean your efforts to enlighten these one track minds migth go in vain.

BTW, you do have a very good knowledge about world affairs, international politics, and an acute sense of witty humour that is simple a class over everyone else here. 5 thumbs up for ya sir !

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: MinorityReport

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.

Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law

The igonrant never learn ..l mean your efforts to enlighten these one track minds migth go in vain.

BTW, you do have a very good knowledge about world affairs, international politics, and an acute sense of witty humour that is simple a class over everyone else here. 5 thumbs up for ya sir !

Uh.. I said not to over do it man. Anyway the checks in the mail. thanks🙂

 

[fluxquantum]

why sit here and criticize an ex-president when we got enough current problems to worry about? what can be done about the past? whining about it ain't gonna change a thing. we need to focus on current issues.

 

[thebestMAX]

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.

It is hardly Carters fault that the Special Forces team he sent crashed in the desert.

 

[fluxquantum]

you people need to get over it. that was so many years ago. our current president is not immune from mistakes either.

 

[exp]

Geez, exp, I got used to you saying something intelligent.

Where? In your ethics thread? That was simply a moment of weakness, I assure you. As you can see, I have made a full recovery and am back to my usual state of perpetual idiocy. 😀

 

[Stark]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Carter was a terrible president.

Yeah he was too honest.

his downfall was that he had to surround himself with other democrats when he was in office.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Stark

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Carter was a terrible president.

Yeah he was too honest.

his downfall was that he had to surround himself with other democrats when he was in office.

Hahaha.. and unlike Clinton he didn't ignore the Liberals.

Carter took over office from Gerald Ford during a time when America was still reeling from the Watergate Scandal and the aftermath Vietnam. In addition, we were also dealing with an economic down turn fueled by an Oil Boycott by OPEC. I remember clearly Carter telling publicly stating that the American People needed to lower their expectations which translated in a perceived lack of confidence in the American Business Model and Americans as a whole by him and his Administration. Ultimately when Iran took the Hostages in the Embassy in Tehran the people lost all confidence in him as our leader and his Presidency was terminal.

If Carter hadn?t have been such a weak President I doubt that the Republicans would have recuperated as fast as they did from the Scandalous Presidency of Richard Nixon whose Administration made Clinton?s look like a Sunday School Class.

 

[JoeBaD]

moonbeam - "Carter was a fantastic president"

yeah, interest rates at 18% was fantastic.

Christ, how can moonbeam be so consistently an idiot?

 

[PullMyFinger]

Originally posted by: Desslok
I still can't believe the Navy is naming an attack sub after this guy.

That's what I find most amusing about those who embrace Carter's "hollier than thou" attitude. He showed up here a couple of months ago with his family to tour the sub which bears his name, the SSN-23 Jimmy Carter. How hypocritical is that, Mr Habitat for Humanity allows his name to grace one of the most deadly weapons on the face of the Earth and then accepts the Nobel Peace Prize in the same calendar year. I have worked on the weapon system design of that sub for the last 3 years and I can tell you that there is nothing peaceful or subtle about it, it will be going places and doing things that will really p#ss off nations who are not our allies. You go Jimmy, build some more houses, maybe you can fill them with immigrants looking for a new home after the SSN-23 visits their shores.

And regarding this quote:

If Carter hadn?t have been such a weak President I doubt that the Republicans would have recuperated as fast as they did from the Scandalous Presidency of Richard Nixon whose Administration made Clinton?s look like a Sunday School Class.

I doubt Carter would have made it to office at all if it weren't for the Watergate scandal. Because of that issue, it would have been nearly impossible for ANY Republican to win the presidential election at that time. Now, comparing the scandals of Nixon's Presidency to those of the Clinton saga is another matter all together which deserves it's own thread. And Red, how do you know about Sunday School? (based on your sig 😉)

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: PullMyFinger

Originally posted by: Desslok

And Red, how do you know about Sunday School? (based on your sig 😉)

My Fundie Mother forced that lunacy on me when I was a kid.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.

It is hardly Carters fault that the Special Forces team he sent crashed in the desert.

No but he shares the blame along with Nixon, Ford, and Congress for the total lack of support given to the military in the post Vietnam period. I was in the Navy from 1974 to 1978 and got to see the effects of this first hand. My squadron took delivery of 11 brand new S3-A aircraft. Within 6 months we were down to 4 flyable planes with the other 7 being what we lovingly called " hanger queens" where they sat stripped of parts to keep the other 4 flying. We actually deployed to the Med in 1977 in this state of affairs. Drug use in the military at that time was rampant with random urine testing having been halted in 1974. Anyone that has actually worked on a flight deck would tell you that is not the place you want a stoner working. For all his faults Reagan deserves the credit for turning around this shameful neglect and bringing our military back into fighting shape.