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Another "Are You Sick Of" Thread : Jimmy Carter

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Thought Ex Presidents were never supposed to criticize sitting Presidents. Good old boys sticking together.

Every time he opens his mouth I lose a little more of the little respect I had for him in the first place. Remember gas prices when HE was called the president? Remember double digit inflation and interest rates?

Oooops forgot, he is a Dem so he couldnt possibly have been or be wrong.
 
Watch out, he got himself a Peace Prize. That makes him a God among the liberals. Oops, I used the G word -
 
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.
 
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.
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Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.
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Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law
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i doubt they care.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.
Click to expand...
Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law
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That was way after the hostage crisis.

And yes, Reagan certainly deserves criticism for breaking laws to assist Contras.

 
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.
Click to expand...
Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law
Click to expand...

That was way after the hostage crisis.

And yes, Reagan certainly deserves criticism for breaking laws to assist Contras.
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Funny how the Hostages were released on the same day as Reagans inaguration.
 
Maybe a little criticism is due but let me quote George Will from his Sunday Column, The Unserious French) (out of context and a Republican I know):

"One of the most effective blows ever struck against terrorism - The bombing raid President Reagan ordered in response to Libyan involvement in terrorist bombing targeting Americans in Berlin"

We need more Affirmative action of this sort today. 😉

This quote even deserves its own thread!
 
I think Jimmy Carter is probably a good person, probably means well and is probably a great peanut farmer. However, I lost every ounce of respect that I ever had for him when he accepted the Nobel Prize the way it was given to him. He may have deserved it, but they didn't give it to him to honor him or his achivements. They gave it to him to diss Bush. He should have thrown it back at them.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.
Click to expand...
Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law
Click to expand...

That was way after the hostage crisis.

And yes, Reagan certainly deserves criticism for breaking laws to assist Contras.
Click to expand...
Funny how the Hostages were released on the same day as Reagans inaguration.
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Well I guess you were happy with Carter's inability to secure the release of hostages for 400 + days.
 
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling wit

Yeah great point to bring up there genius. If I remember correctly Reagan traded Arms for hostages, something he specifically said he WOULD NOT DO to a fundamentalist controlled government. Now we know where George Bush Sr got the slogan, "Read my lips and kiss my hips." Reagan wasnt the "great statesman" the republicans made him out to be, he was a backroom deal maker whose only agenda was his parties policy rather than to his people. Carter was no ray of sunshine, but compared to the damage Reagans administration did to our countries deficit and economy, he made Carter look like a saint.

...and no, Im not a democrat/liberal.
~wnied~
 
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.
Click to expand...
Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law
Click to expand...

That was way after the hostage crisis.

And yes, Reagan certainly deserves criticism for breaking laws to assist Contras.
Click to expand...
Funny how the Hostages were released on the same day as Reagans inaguration.
Click to expand...


Well I guess you were happy with Carter's inability to secure the release of hostages for 400 + days.
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No, Carter was a weak President.

 
Actually Carter was a fantastic President. Bush or Regan would have bombed and destroyed Iran and killed all the hostages to teach them a lesson. Only a man of real humility and an understanding of Christ saved us even at the cost of his Presidency. Carter was surrounded by scum in Washington who did everything they could to destroy the decency he tried to bring. He was a threat to the American political system and the privilages of swine.

Fro the Nobel committee to stick it to Bush was an act for the sake of humanity as is Carter's speaking out now. Bush is a disaster for Ameirca.

What Carter is in his private life is what he was as President. The reason that's not obvious to many is because they have been blinded by political propaganda and partisanship. It's the same person, the difference is all in your mind, invisible to you. It's called conditioning.
 
carter had a ton of bad luck....it's really a shame........cuz he's really a great person....he wasn't a great politician, but a great humanitarian......he was also surrounded by the wrong people......
 
Originally posted by: Desslok
I still can't believe the Navy is naming an attack sub after this guy.
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Will probably be total crap while in service, then bitch about how farked up every other sub is as it lies on a scrap heap waiting melt down.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Actually Carter was a fantastic President. Bush or Regan would have bombed and destroyed Iran and killed all the hostages to teach them a lesson. Only a man of real humility and an understanding of Christ saved us even at the cost of his Presidency. Carter was surrounded by scum in Washington who did everything they could to destroy the decency he tried to bring. He was a threat to the American political system and the privilages of swine.

Fro the Nobel committee to stick it to Bush was an act for the sake of humanity as is Carter's speaking out now. Bush is a disaster for Ameirca.

What Carter is in his private life is what he was as President. The reason that's not obvious to many is because they have been blinded by political propaganda and partisanship. It's the same person, the difference is all in your mind, invisible to you. It's called conditioning.
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Thank you, Unblinded One. You know, when one person says that the rest of the world is blind, maybe just maybe, he is the blind one. Either that or his mirror sunglasses have the mirror on the inside.
 
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.
Click to expand...

The debacle in the Desert is as much the responsibility of the Reagan Administration as it was Carter's.
Having The G.O.P. offering Stingers and other arms in exchange for waiting until the election was over to release the Embassy Hostages only insured the re-election for a second term before the first term was fully under way.
All the while assisting with the importation of tons of cocaine using US Military Aircraft, personel and facilities.
Shameful that anyone would try to rationalize it.

 
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.
Click to expand...
Actually it seemed the Reagan Administration was pretty tight with Iran. We even traded them Arms under Reagan though it was against the law
Click to expand...

That was way after the hostage crisis.

And yes, Reagan certainly deserves criticism for breaking laws to assist Contras.
Click to expand...
No it wasn't. It was during. Your timetable is skewed.
That wasn't just criticism, it was convictions (for members of his staff) for importation of cocaine, lying to congress, obstruction of justice, to name but a few.

 
Every time he opens his mouth I lose a little more of the little respect I had for him in the first place.
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Go easy on Carter. He wants to be remembered for something other than his pathetic presidential term, so naturally he is in overdrive right now desperately trying to build a new legacy centered on his activities *after* leaving office. Once you view his recent statements in that light they appear more sad than annoying.
 
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Remember 1979 hostage crisis in Iran? Yup, he had no backbone and Reagan
had to take care of a problem that Carter was fumbling with. Carter is considered
as one of the least effective president in US history.

However, he is doing a great job with "Habitat for Humanity" program.
Click to expand...

The debacle in the Desert is as much the responsibility of the Reagan Administration as it was Carter's.
Having The G.O.P. offering Stingers and other arms in exchange for waiting until the election was over to release the Embassy Hostages only insured the re-election for a second term before the first term was fully under way.
All the while assisting with the importation of tons of cocaine using US Military Aircraft, personel and facilities.
Shameful that anyone would try to rationalize it.
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Carter screwed around for 400 plus day, Reagan did what he had to do to secure the release of hostages.

The debacle happened before Reagan took office.
On Apr. 24, 1980, the United States attempted a rescue mission that failed. After three of eight helicopters
were damaged in a sandstorm, the operation was aborted; eight persons were killed during the evacuation.
Secretary of State Cyrus Vance, who had opposed the action, resigned after the mission's failure.
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Did Reagan did the right thing? No. But 53 hostages probably will think so.
 
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