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Annan Rejects Calls for His Resignation
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CADsortaGUY
Lifer
I reject his rejection? 😛
CsG
CsG
her209
No Lifer
The oil-for-food program began in 1996 to help Iraqis cope with U.N. sanctions imposed after Saddam Hussein's 1990 invasion of Kuwait. It allowed Saddam's government to sell unlimited quantities of oil provided most of the proceeds went to buy food, medicine and humanitarian goods and to compensate victims of the 1991 Gulf War.
The program was created by the U.N. Security Council and monitored by the council committee monitoring sanctions against Iraq. The U.N. Secretariat, headed by Annan, ran the program.
"The Minnesota Republican, who is leading one of five congressional investigations into the accusations, said Annan presided over the ``greatest fraud and theft'' in the history of the United Nations."
Take your pick, his negligence or corruption made this a miserable failure leading to the preventable deaths of 10,000+ Iraqis every month for years. Those who profitied including govts. and used their positions of power on the UN security council to protect sugar daddy Saddam should be held accountable. That $$$ should go back to the people of Iraq, and the perps should be behind bars for crimes against humanity.....
The program was created by the U.N. Security Council and monitored by the council committee monitoring sanctions against Iraq. The U.N. Secretariat, headed by Annan, ran the program.
"The Minnesota Republican, who is leading one of five congressional investigations into the accusations, said Annan presided over the ``greatest fraud and theft'' in the history of the United Nations."
Take your pick, his negligence or corruption made this a miserable failure leading to the preventable deaths of 10,000+ Iraqis every month for years. Those who profitied including govts. and used their positions of power on the UN security council to protect sugar daddy Saddam should be held accountable. That $$$ should go back to the people of Iraq, and the perps should be behind bars for crimes against humanity.....
CaptainGoodnight
Golden Member
Imagine if U.S. troops were accused of sexually exploiting children in impoverished nations. Imagine if a U.S. Cabinet secretary were accused of groping a female subordinate, whose complaint was then swatted aside by the president. Imagine if the head of a U.S. government agency and the president's own offspring stood accused of complicity in the biggest embezzlement racket in history.
Those would be pretty big stories, no? Above-the-fold, top-of-the-newscast stories. Yet the United Nations has been mired in all these scandals and until just recently hardly anybody outside the right-wing blogosphere has noticed. . . .
The U.N.'s friends are doing their favorite international institution no favors with this knee-jerk defense. Until it cleans up its act, the U.N. can never be as influential as its boosters would like. Even Annan recognizes this.
Those would be pretty big stories, no? Above-the-fold, top-of-the-newscast stories. Yet the United Nations has been mired in all these scandals and until just recently hardly anybody outside the right-wing blogosphere has noticed. . . .
The U.N.'s friends are doing their favorite international institution no favors with this knee-jerk defense. Until it cleans up its act, the U.N. can never be as influential as its boosters would like. Even Annan recognizes this.
Captain I agree, where are the true liberals outraged over this politcial corruption and greed that led to the loss of so much innocent life? Unfortunately they can't acknowledge this without giving up so much that is important their view of reality. Bush might have used commonly believed shoddy intel, but everyone else still though that and said NO, this war was illegal because the UN said no. If they add this corruption into that scenario they must admit there were far more nefarious reasons for the lack of UN security council support, and perhaps Bush was correct.
They have already convinced themselves that Saddam had complied and all WMD had been accounted for or it's destruction documented. They will get through this too.....
You can add Bbond to your list Genx87.
They have already convinced themselves that Saddam had complied and all WMD had been accounted for or it's destruction documented. They will get through this too.....
You can add Bbond to your list Genx87.
Steeplerot
Lifer
Now, here's why we in the liberal media aren't running around gritty city streets and polished court hallways, sleepless and intense, dramatically screaming things like, "The public has a right to know!" First of all, this isn't a movie. Second of all, even if it was, none of us could exactly pass for Tom Cruise; so he would be the one screaming that, not us. We would be lucky to be cast as Mute Juror No. 6. Third of all, no evidence exists - yet - that proves that Kofi Annan had anything to do with his son's business maneuvers. Furthermore, no evidence exists - yet - that the payments Kojo Annan was receiving were illegal - "non-compete" fees are perfectly legitimate, if not required, by Swiss law - or that Cotecna was explicitly on Saddam's payroll.
I stressed "yet" because conservatives already furious with the U.N. would love to get their hands on such evidence: if it exists, I've no doubt they will uncover it, one way or another.
This is a non-issue no matter how much fox and the neocons wants it to be.
The neocons have blown away any credibility we had. How could we go after a man who has NO evidence against him yet?
Is the world supposed to fall over at neocons every whim and vandetta? no, people will continue to watch this one until
SOME kind of evidence comes in of wrongdoing.
Until then the republicans look like assholes with a beef against the UN. Fox can whine all it wants.
The world knows fox is the mouthpiece of the lying administration of a rouge country and saw the defamation of character FOX loves to pull off on whover is the target of GOP goons.
Good luck with this one chickenhawk littles.
I stressed "yet" because conservatives already furious with the U.N. would love to get their hands on such evidence: if it exists, I've no doubt they will uncover it, one way or another.
This is a non-issue no matter how much fox and the neocons wants it to be.
The neocons have blown away any credibility we had. How could we go after a man who has NO evidence against him yet?
Is the world supposed to fall over at neocons every whim and vandetta? no, people will continue to watch this one until
SOME kind of evidence comes in of wrongdoing.
Until then the republicans look like assholes with a beef against the UN. Fox can whine all it wants.
The world knows fox is the mouthpiece of the lying administration of a rouge country and saw the defamation of character FOX loves to pull off on whover is the target of GOP goons.
Good luck with this one chickenhawk littles.
So where why is a number of nearly 23 billion being floated around? What about the congressional investigation?
If nothing has been done wrong and nobody has any facts. Then why is there such chaos at the UN. Why are monetary figures being added up?
If you think nothing happened here you are sticking your head in the sand and hoping for the best.
If nothing has been done wrong and nobody has any facts. Then why is there such chaos at the UN. Why are monetary figures being added up?
If you think nothing happened here you are sticking your head in the sand and hoping for the best.
Steeplerot
Lifer
Sure, keep trying to find a reason to justify iraq even if you have to take down the UN even for the US admistration's fvckups, you people are sad.
This is transparent to the rest of the world and just makes bushco look like bigger assh0les coming up with this alarmist crap when their is NO evidence yet.
Fits your agenda well doesen't it neocons?
This is transparent to the rest of the world and just makes bushco look like bigger assh0les coming up with this alarmist crap when their is NO evidence yet.
Fits your agenda well doesen't it neocons?
It adds even more credibility to one side thats for sure.....
Steeple where is your outrage at these political officials who were placed in charge of this program? Corruption being the reason or not, they still had oversight and authority over a well funded program that didn't fulfill it's repsonsibilites and as a result hundreds of thousands of innocent people lost their lives needlessly. Your attempts to dismiss it or spin it as being releveant only in the manner that suits your political agenda against Bush makes you look like a compassionate hypocrite.
"Sure, keep trying to find a reason to justify the UN even if you have to place blame on the US.
The rest of the world bought the UN's lies that just makes them look like bigger morons."
Fits your agenda well doesen't it liberals?
Steeplerot
Lifer
Sorry dude, USA has 0 credibility with the world after iraq and WMD scam.
And you think the world is going to rally behind the same administration that lied to the world so recently on such shoddy evidence?
Sorry that time is long gone for us and you all are pissing into the wind.
America has 0 credibility now with the world and as I said this is totally transparent to the world and obvious bushco can not be trusted for 1 and 2 knowingly will lie to uphold a vandetta (which bush obviouly has after being caught in his last lie.)
Show evidence of wrongdoing or leave the man alone. You have NO evidence and your making us look even more untrustworthy flying off the handle again.
And you think the world is going to rally behind the same administration that lied to the world so recently on such shoddy evidence?
Sorry that time is long gone for us and you all are pissing into the wind.
America has 0 credibility now with the world and as I said this is totally transparent to the world and obvious bushco can not be trusted for 1 and 2 knowingly will lie to uphold a vandetta (which bush obviouly has after being caught in his last lie.)
Show evidence of wrongdoing or leave the man alone. You have NO evidence and your making us look even more untrustworthy flying off the handle again.
Steeplerot
Lifer
There is no evidence he is getting anything. This is more lies.
Steeplerot
Lifer
Of course they say the money is tied to terrorism hell, if you watch fox long enough they will tell you buying a nickel bag of weed from your bro supports terrorism, whatever fits the administrations agenda =fox news.
UPDATE
this is a non issue now like I said.
Thu, Dec. 09, 2004
In turnaround, U.S. ambassador says Annan should stay in office
EDITH M. LEDERER
Associated Press
UNITED NATIONS - The United States expressed confidence in Secretary-General Kofi Annan on Thursday and said he should remain at the helm of the United Nations, an abrupt turnaround from its refusal to back him last week after a U.S. senator called for his resignation.
The statement from U.S. Ambassador John Danforth, who said he was speaking on behalf of the Bush administration, aligned the United States with the 190 other members of the United Nations.
"We are not suggesting or pushing for the resignation of the secretary-general," Danforth said. "We have worked well with him in the past and look forward to working with him for some time in the future."
The call for Annan's resignation last week by Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., made headlines worldwide and led to an outpouring of support for Annan. The leaders of Britain, France, Russia, Germany and other countries telephoned the secretary-general to personally give him their backing.
President Bush twice refused to support the secretary-general, stressing that he wanted a thorough, impartial investigation of allegations of fraud and corruption in the U.N. oil-for-food program for Iraq. Danforth took the same position but said Tuesday he had "great confidence" in Annan.
In his statement Thursday, Danforth said, "essentially it is a criminal investigation" and investigators must determine whether anyone is guilty of bribery, payoffs and corruption.
"There is a cloud over the U.N. There is no doubt about that. And the only way to dispel that cloud is let the sunlight in," Danforth said.
"We are not using the whole thing to push out the secretary-general," he stressed.
UPDATE
this is a non issue now like I said.
Thu, Dec. 09, 2004
In turnaround, U.S. ambassador says Annan should stay in office
EDITH M. LEDERER
Associated Press
UNITED NATIONS - The United States expressed confidence in Secretary-General Kofi Annan on Thursday and said he should remain at the helm of the United Nations, an abrupt turnaround from its refusal to back him last week after a U.S. senator called for his resignation.
The statement from U.S. Ambassador John Danforth, who said he was speaking on behalf of the Bush administration, aligned the United States with the 190 other members of the United Nations.
"We are not suggesting or pushing for the resignation of the secretary-general," Danforth said. "We have worked well with him in the past and look forward to working with him for some time in the future."
The call for Annan's resignation last week by Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., made headlines worldwide and led to an outpouring of support for Annan. The leaders of Britain, France, Russia, Germany and other countries telephoned the secretary-general to personally give him their backing.
President Bush twice refused to support the secretary-general, stressing that he wanted a thorough, impartial investigation of allegations of fraud and corruption in the U.N. oil-for-food program for Iraq. Danforth took the same position but said Tuesday he had "great confidence" in Annan.
In his statement Thursday, Danforth said, "essentially it is a criminal investigation" and investigators must determine whether anyone is guilty of bribery, payoffs and corruption.
"There is a cloud over the U.N. There is no doubt about that. And the only way to dispel that cloud is let the sunlight in," Danforth said.
"We are not using the whole thing to push out the secretary-general," he stressed.
I pity those so lost they can't even accept the facts at hand and make a logical decision. While my personal political leanings are definitely to the left I am glad I have not been so brainwashed that I believe without question everything I'm told even in the face of evidence to the contrary.
Steeplerot
Lifer
Problem is there IS no evidence, no facts how could someone be lost?
Jumping to neocon half-assed conclusions seems like your loss here.
Jumping to neocon half-assed conclusions seems like your loss here.
Steeplerot
Lifer
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/.../local/10378503.htm?1c
The administration backed off, surprise surprise. seems like fox shot themselves in the foot again listening to rush or coulter or somebodys paranoid fantasys about the UN and how the neocons can get their revenge. -typical
P.S. Don't believe the hype.
Anyhow with haliburton in full force how can these people think they have some kind of moral upper hand lol
Everyone had their hand in that cookie jar it seems like.
What is this I keep hearing about how the oil in question was brought in with bribed US navy ships for years. hmmmm? better back out of that one just to be safe huh bush?
The administration backed off, surprise surprise. seems like fox shot themselves in the foot again listening to rush or coulter or somebodys paranoid fantasys about the UN and how the neocons can get their revenge. -typical
P.S. Don't believe the hype.
Anyhow with haliburton in full force how can these people think they have some kind of moral upper hand lol
Everyone had their hand in that cookie jar it seems like.
What is this I keep hearing about how the oil in question was brought in with bribed US navy ships for years. hmmmm? better back out of that one just to be safe huh bush?
I have no doubt there is plenty of corruption with Haliburton, start the invesitgations just as those directed at the UN. I can easily believe Bush only went in for the oil, but the greater good of the act is what is important to me. The UN though, thats a hard sell for me, they had the oversight and the funds to administer that humanitarian aide and yet did not, what is the reason for their failure outside of the probable corruption issue. It also creates a cynical attitude towards them in regards to their then stated reasons for objecting, the welfare of the Iraqi people.
Steeplerot
Lifer
Thing is there still is no evidence of UN wrongdoing, if there is then fine nail their asses to the wall.
This is obviously a vandetta thing and im sure the right-wing sludge machine will go into action again asap.
They have already convinced themselves of non existent evidence AGAIN.
Too bad 190 other countries in the world don't have fox news to convince them that there is a shred of accountablility and credibility to the US administrations agenda.
This is obviously a vandetta thing and im sure the right-wing sludge machine will go into action again asap.
They have already convinced themselves of non existent evidence AGAIN.
Too bad 190 other countries in the world don't have fox news to convince them that there is a shred of accountablility and credibility to the US administrations agenda.
Where is any evidence of lies by Bush? Where are the investigations? Why is the UN the only one being scrutinized at this level for their actions? Why is that not important to you, you only seem to think this is releveant to help spin your political position which is what you claim is the only reason behind this "unreliable" claim. The only unlreliable claims I have heard have been from the other side, Bush lied, there was no corruption at the UN. Why do you keep glossing over their responsibility in the deaths of so many people? There are hundreds of thousands of dead iraqis that are evidence of their wrongdoing in administering the humanitarian aid porgram which you seem to think worked wonderfully with zero corruption. Where did that money go???? The only person I see trying to spin this crime for political reasons is YOU, and of course you say the same thing, it's Bush
Steeplerot
Lifer
Death of friends and family becasue of illegal war is reality. There is 0 evidence on this and is an obvious vandetta just like iraq, how is this NOT bush?
People here fed by lies on us media forget one thing. The actual reasons for this and iraq are obvious. Blatenet colonialism and rape of Iraq is what the peoples of the world see
and this mudslinging of the UN is petty drama bush is trying to put on europe coulter would be proud.
Who has died? Who actually DID anything where is ANY evidence before America accuses someone we obviously have beef against?
This is a non-issue noone is dying and the un is not eating anyones babies and no I am sure hillary is not a mutant space alien set on running for president of the universe regardless of what rush or foxnews says.
The only people dying like flys are the Iraqi people that we claim to be sheltering so much from the "evil" UN.
More like the Iraqi people need shelter from US. The worlds people too.
Obviously truth and reasonable doubt mean nothing anymore to this administration.
If the right-wing administration continues to threaten world peace with their blatent bullying I say invade, and invade soon.
If any country needs the UN to help with a rouge nation, it is the USA that needs the worlds sanity at this point.
They know where DC is. The troops are elsewhere in the mideast come get this guy out of our goverment and his oil buddies too before any more people die for their greed and try their asses at Geneva like the criminals they are.
People here fed by lies on us media forget one thing. The actual reasons for this and iraq are obvious. Blatenet colonialism and rape of Iraq is what the peoples of the world see
and this mudslinging of the UN is petty drama bush is trying to put on europe coulter would be proud.
Who has died? Who actually DID anything where is ANY evidence before America accuses someone we obviously have beef against?
This is a non-issue noone is dying and the un is not eating anyones babies and no I am sure hillary is not a mutant space alien set on running for president of the universe regardless of what rush or foxnews says.
The only people dying like flys are the Iraqi people that we claim to be sheltering so much from the "evil" UN.
More like the Iraqi people need shelter from US. The worlds people too.
Obviously truth and reasonable doubt mean nothing anymore to this administration.
If the right-wing administration continues to threaten world peace with their blatent bullying I say invade, and invade soon.
If any country needs the UN to help with a rouge nation, it is the USA that needs the worlds sanity at this point.
They know where DC is. The troops are elsewhere in the mideast come get this guy out of our goverment and his oil buddies too before any more people die for their greed and try their asses at Geneva like the criminals they are.
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