Ann Coulter = Inevitably fading from the limelight?

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Beanie46

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Originally posted by: evident
Originally posted by: sactoking
I never understood how Coulter, Limbaugh, Franken, Cramer, Orman and their ilk were ever popular, respected, or listened to in the first place.

orman? isn't she that lady that tells people to save $$$ and not be an idiot? how does she compare to the rest of the people you named?


Because Orman is a hypocrite and an idiot. How a bottle-blond former waitress and self-described "55-year-old virgin" with a taste for the good life became the financial messiah for millions of Americans is beyond me.

Consider: Orman "loves" something called "dollar-cost averaging," which involves buying the same stock over and over again as it falls.

"It's a great opportunity for you when the value of the shares drops," claims Orman in the inaptly named "The Road to Wealth," "because you can buy shares at 'bargain' prices and average down your cost per share."

Oh, where to begin? Maybe with the obvious: Since when does throwing good money after bad make you rich? It doesn't.

And although one of Orman's mantras is how much she loves stocks -- "(S)tocks, in my opinion, are the best investment vehicle for the growth of your money over time" -- less than 3% of Orman's net worth happens to be invested in them. Instead, she's tucked away the vast majority of those royalties ($32 million-plus, after taxes) into insured, government-backed bonds.

She has always been iffy when it comes to investment advice, advocating a "sell after small declines" strategy that is coupled with a "buy things that have been on the rise" concept, leaving investors in a position to sell low and buy high.

A favorite Orman statistic is that stocks average 11% return a year. Orman recommends becoming an informed investor by watching cable financial shows such as her own; more disturbing is her ridiculing of people who don't think that financial companies are on their side as "paranoid."

The big problem with Suze Orman is that she appears to be a below-average financial planner. She scores very high on the personality index, but very low on the knowledge and understanding of the complex issues that face a lot of her audience. She's giving generic, simple solutions to people's most difficult problems, and judging from her portfolio, she's taking them on a path she really hasn't traveled herself.

(Orman's liquid net worth is put at about $25 million, with an additional $7 million worth of houses. With just $1 million of that in stocks, it means that just 3-4% of her liquid net worth is in the stock market.

What does Orman do with the rest of her money? When asked, Orman said: "Save it and build it in municipal bonds. I buy zero-coupon municipal bonds, and all the bonds I buy are triple-A-rated and insured so that even if the city goes under, I get my money. I take a little lower interest rate to make sure my bonds are 100% safe and sound. "

As for playing the stock market, Orman said "I have a million dollars in the stock market, because if I lose a million dollars, I don't personally care."

In short, the person being trusted as everyone's financial adviser has a portfolio that few people could live with.

She has also hawked for GM, claiming that leasing a luxury car -- you know, the kind that people drive to impress other people -- is a terrific financial decision: "If you ask me, that's smart money!"
 

Firebot

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As long as sheep who only believe in blind partisanship exist, as was proven by some in this thread, Ann Coulter will always have a market to sell her anti-liberal books.
 

Siddhartha

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I am working with an engineer who said that Ms Coulter sometimes expressed herself in hyperbolic terms but basically she makes sense. He also has issues with Mr Obama's birth certificate.

Ms Coulter has an audience which is not going anywhere.
 

trenchfoot

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I like all Coulter, Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reily, et al. They, in their self-immolating insulated myopic world of anachronistic and failed ideology is keeping the republican party exactly where the Dems want them.

And the beauty of it all is that these "entertainers" are now the defacto voice of a shattered and defeated party that have only themselves to blame for their demise.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Mani
Coulter's a shock jock who's schtick is to give the far righters hardons with her vitriol and blonde hair (which is apparently enough to get them past her adam's apple). It was only inevitable that her extremism would wear thin after a while.

LOL! Her so called "extremism" is what is called freedom. Sad that most all of P&N doesn't see it.
On the contrary, almost all see it.. Freedom to make money off of a book spewing vitriol and nonsense from idiots willing to part with their money to buy it. It seems you are the one with the problem with freedom as you seem to take umbrage with those expressing their freedom of speech to condemn her nonsense.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Sacrilege
She's fading from the limelight because she is getting older and uglier (notice I didn't say less attractive). And Adam's apples are going out of style for women.

Zing!! :laugh:
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: sactoking
I never understood how Coulter, Limbaugh, Franken, Cramer, Orman and their ilk were ever popular, respected, or listened to in the first place.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Fox News the #1 'news' network?
 

HomerJS

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: sactoking
I never understood how Coulter, Limbaugh, Franken, Cramer, Orman and their ilk were ever popular, respected, or listened to in the first place.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Fox News the #1 'news' network?

Can't be. They constantly state the "main stream media" is bad.

 

evident

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Originally posted by: Beanie46
Originally posted by: evident
Originally posted by: sactoking
I never understood how Coulter, Limbaugh, Franken, Cramer, Orman and their ilk were ever popular, respected, or listened to in the first place.

orman? isn't she that lady that tells people to save $$$ and not be an idiot? how does she compare to the rest of the people you named?


Because Orman is a hypocrite and an idiot. How a bottle-blond former waitress and self-described "55-year-old virgin" with a taste for the good life became the financial messiah for millions of Americans is beyond me.

Consider: Orman "loves" something called "dollar-cost averaging," which involves buying the same stock over and over again as it falls.

"It's a great opportunity for you when the value of the shares drops," claims Orman in the inaptly named "The Road to Wealth," "because you can buy shares at 'bargain' prices and average down your cost per share."

Oh, where to begin? Maybe with the obvious: Since when does throwing good money after bad make you rich? It doesn't.

And although one of Orman's mantras is how much she loves stocks -- "(S)tocks, in my opinion, are the best investment vehicle for the growth of your money over time" -- less than 3% of Orman's net worth happens to be invested in them. Instead, she's tucked away the vast majority of those royalties ($32 million-plus, after taxes) into insured, government-backed bonds.

She has always been iffy when it comes to investment advice, advocating a "sell after small declines" strategy that is coupled with a "buy things that have been on the rise" concept, leaving investors in a position to sell low and buy high.

A favorite Orman statistic is that stocks average 11% return a year. Orman recommends becoming an informed investor by watching cable financial shows such as her own; more disturbing is her ridiculing of people who don't think that financial companies are on their side as "paranoid."

The big problem with Suze Orman is that she appears to be a below-average financial planner. She scores very high on the personality index, but very low on the knowledge and understanding of the complex issues that face a lot of her audience. She's giving generic, simple solutions to people's most difficult problems, and judging from her portfolio, she's taking them on a path she really hasn't traveled herself.

(Orman's liquid net worth is put at about $25 million, with an additional $7 million worth of houses. With just $1 million of that in stocks, it means that just 3-4% of her liquid net worth is in the stock market.

What does Orman do with the rest of her money? When asked, Orman said: "Save it and build it in municipal bonds. I buy zero-coupon municipal bonds, and all the bonds I buy are triple-A-rated and insured so that even if the city goes under, I get my money. I take a little lower interest rate to make sure my bonds are 100% safe and sound. "

As for playing the stock market, Orman said "I have a million dollars in the stock market, because if I lose a million dollars, I don't personally care."

In short, the person being trusted as everyone's financial adviser has a portfolio that few people could live with.

She has also hawked for GM, claiming that leasing a luxury car -- you know, the kind that people drive to impress other people -- is a terrific financial decision: "If you ask me, that's smart money!"

oh damn, didnt even know. i saw her interviewed on larry king one time and it seemed like she was just giving common sense advice to people
 

Atreus21

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Mani
Coulter's a shock jock who's schtick is to give the far righters hardons with her vitriol and blonde hair (which is apparently enough to get them past her adam's apple). It was only inevitable that her extremism would wear thin after a while.

LOL! Her so called "extremism" is what is called freedom. Sad that most all of P&N doesn't see it.
On the contrary, almost all see it.. Freedom to make money off of a book spewing vitriol and nonsense from idiots willing to part with their money to buy it. It seems you are the one with the problem with freedom as you seem to take umbrage with those expressing their freedom of speech to condemn her nonsense.

nice Spidey, defending an blatant liar and a person who spews nothing but hate - keep up the good work, and continue to point out to us how much smarter you are than everyone else


She's not the only one who spews vitriol, fellas


http://www.amazon.com/Lies-Lyi...&qid=1236867030&sr=8-1
 
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To quote the great Monty Python
coulter is
dull. Dull. Dull. My God it's dull, it's so desperately dull and tedious and stuffy and boring and des-per-ate-ly DULL.
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To quote the great Monty Python
coulter is
dull. Dull. Dull. My God it's dull, it's so desperately dull and tedious and stuffy and boring and des-per-ate-ly DULL.

To further quote MP:

I fart in her general direction.

Her mother was a hamster and her father smelt of elderberries.



I think Spidey first wants a little spanking from mAnn ... :shocked:
 

compuwiz1

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She sure has a long neck / deep throat. She and that fucking Nancy Grace....two of the most annoying women on the planet.
 

Vic

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Ann who?

No, seriously, Coulter's problem (like Rush's) can be best described by the Eleanor Roosevelt quote, "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." They don't have ideas, and they don't discuss events either. And when they discuss people, they lump a whole country of 300 million people into 2 black and white categories. For a time, this entertained that portion of the sheeple who fancied themselves on the sunny side of those 2 overly simplistic categories, but that time is over now.
 

ranmaniac

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I get the feeling that Tom Petty's brother... er Ann Coulter, will say anything to sell her books, and probably doesn't even believe in half the crap she writes or talks about. This probably sums up a lot talk show hosts since their income and success is related to their radio/TV ratings, book sales etc.
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: Vic
Ann who?

No, seriously, Coulter's problem (like Rush's) can be best described by the Eleanor Roosevelt quote, "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people."

So that explains why as a new president starting off with huge financial crisis Obama made it a point to focus on Rush. The fact he had no ideas for economy also became clear.

Coulter I don't care for much and wouldn't miss her.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: Vic
Ann who?

No, seriously, Coulter's problem (like Rush's) can be best described by the Eleanor Roosevelt quote, "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people."

So that explains why as a new president starting off with huge financial crisis Obama made it a point to focus on Rush. The fact he had no ideas for economy also became clear.

Coulter I don't care for much and wouldn't miss her.

Speaking of small minds... :roll:
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: sactoking
I never understood how Coulter, Limbaugh, Franken, Cramer, Orman and their ilk were ever popular, respected, or listened to in the first place.

Because there are a lot of people who need to have their opinions spoon-fed to them. Coming up with their own is really, really hard.

Do people watch Saturday Night Live for political insights? No. They watch it for the humor. It's the same thing with many of these people. When you learn to pick up on their style of humor they become very entertaining.

Some people will listen to them and hate them, some people will listen to them and believe every word, but I think most of those who listen to them are able to differentiate between the truth and the satire.




I believe the biggest problem this country is experiencing is not the economic situation, it is that all the light-hearted humor in media of all forms, is being replaced by hatred across the board. It was building up all throughout the past 8 years, and the saddest part is that the hatred has not lessened since Obama won the election - the hatred has only intensified. This is very sad.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: ranmaniac
I get the feeling that Tom Petty's brother... er Ann Coulter, will say anything to sell her books, and probably doesn't even believe in half the crap she writes or talks about. This probably sums up a lot talk show hosts since their income and success is related to their radio/TV ratings, book sales etc.

No Shit!

That's the whole point!

She usually believes in the underlying message, and uses satire, shock value, exaggerations, half-truths, etc. to make the point. It absolutely is done deliberately.

If anyone here doesn't like her style, then simply don't pay attention to it. Coulter is not a politician. She holds no public office. She has no power over any of us. 'nuff said. ;)
 

trenchfoot

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
She sure has a long neck / deep throat. She and that fucking Nancy Grace....two of the most annoying women on the planet.

My sentiments exactly. However, I'd like very much like to see Coulter and Grace square off in a debate over the political and social ramifications of Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol giving birth to an "illegitimate" infant, with D List Kathy Griffin and Jerry Springer refereeing the match.

Now that's entertainment, and, after all, isn't that the only product all four of them are selling anyway?

I'd definetly pull the trigger on a ticket to see that and I'd even throw in for a bucket of warm butter-soaked popcorn and a jumbo cup of root beer to boot.;)

 

Perknose

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Will there be any sadder and more pathetic sight than an aging, increasingly desperate for the limelight Ann Coulter?

I mean, besides Rush.

;)
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Will there be any sadder and more pathetic sight than an aging, increasingly desperate for the limelight Ann Coulter?

I mean, besides Rush.

;)

You'd think she's already in the desperation stage - she calls liberals nazis and terrorists and even attacked their sex lives. I mean, where do you go from there?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Perknose
Will there be any sadder and more pathetic sight than an aging, increasingly desperate for the limelight Ann Coulter?

I mean, besides Rush.

;)

You'd think she's already in the desperation stage - she calls liberals nazis and terrorists and even attacked their sex lives. I mean, where do you go from there?
I wonder what kind of men she beds.