Animals do not have emotions

[StageLeft]

If I didn't hate the world I would have possibly teared at that, it was cute

 

[amdhunter]

I am sure this dog had no feelings also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou7v-zCdJU4

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

i am an animal.

 

[El Guaraguao]

When I was smaller, my parents had a dog. I didn't fucking feed the dog. I didn't walk the dog. The dog still would wag its tail and greet me happily not expecting ANYTHING from me except maybe a pat on the head and company.

Now lets all chop their paws off. Only way to be sure right.

wow that's fucking deep!



[hugs 2yo german shepherd]

 

[tboo]

LOL at the two beagles.

 

[BUTCH1]

When I was smaller, my parents had a dog. I didn't fucking feed the dog. I didn't walk the dog. The dog still would wag its tail and greet me happily not expecting ANYTHING from me except maybe a pat on the head and company.

Now lets all chop their paws off. Only way to be sure right.

Lets chop your nuts off so you can't breed more fucktards, only way to be sure, right?.

 

[piasabird]

What about that lady that slept with her monkey?

 

[Crono]

Granted, robots are still far away from completely and realistically displaying the range of emotions that animals and humans can, but this gives some idea of how they can be capable of emoting. Going forward, we'll see more robots developed that focus on interacting with one another and humans, forming connections much like we have with pets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilmDN2e_Flc&feature=related

What I meant in my previous post is that we humans sense emotions by visual, aural, and tactile cues. We don't literally feel what others feel, though we can empathize with them. Often times we project our emotions and think we feel what animals (or humans) feel, but we don't really. If you define emotions simply in the chemical or impulse sense, then robots could "feel" in much the same way as humans or animals do. But what neither robots nor animals can do is reason like humans (in the philosophical sense) or imagine (to constantly construct worlds and ideas shaped from science and discoveries). Is it possible that animals can reason or imagine like we do? Sure, but there's no way to prove that without seeing some result. You don't see animals writing books, constructing art for the sake of pleasure, or building machines. In some sense they do have the capability to adapt and some can even use tools (primates, for example) but there seems to be a limit and they are not comparable to us in this regard.

I'm not trying to diminish the importance of animals and the roles they play in our personal lives as well as the world as a whole, I'm just saying that we shouldn't anthropomorphize them and think that they are exactly the same as us. Animal cruelty is wrong, and it dehumanizes us as much as it hurts the animals. I think we are made to care for animals and to look after them, and it's good that people do care.

Also, I realize this post has little to do with the OP, lol.

 

[Newbian]

What about that lady that slept with her monkey?

Pics? :biggrin:

 

[jemcam]

I believe animals have emotions. Maybe not as complex as humans, but if you think a dog doesn't feel joy when you're playing with them, you don't have emotions. I think dogs feel happiness, and most certainly shame or embarrassment like when one of my dogs leaves a dump on the floor when I come home. I can tell before I even find it that something is going on because the guilty one is skulking around the house. They feel fear too. Very basic emotions, but they're there without a doubt.

I have 4 or 5 birds in a cage and twice when I've found one dead in the bottom of the cage, what alerted me to it is the other birds were sitting there quiet and not moving. Both times when I walked over, one of the birds was dead in the bottom of the cage. I can't explain what they were feeling, but they were feeling something and they didn't get back to normal until a couple hours after the dead bird was removed.

 

[meltdown75]

how bout that sniffer dog that was lost for 14 months in Afghanistan?

i know what her feelings were after being found...

"HOLY SHIT I'M AWESOME"

 

[jonks]

I am sure this dog had no feelings also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou7v-zCdJU4

1. wtf does that have to do with dogs having emotions? pain isn't an emotion.

2. it's a war zone where these guys see their friends and comrades frequently blown up by seemingly benign objects. I understand orders are frequently to shoot dogs that approach units as they are sometimes strapped with explosives, carry diseases like rabies and the like. I'm the biggest dog lover there is, but we kill people in wars, frequently the innocent. And no animal before WWI suffered more heavily in times of war for nearly 2000 years than did horses which were routinely targetted to impede opposing armies. Assuming this was Iraq we shouldn't have been there in the first place. Blame Bush for killing the dog.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

They respond to pain and pleasure just like humans. How is it any less real than our "emotions"

 

[Locut0s]

There aren't many scientists worth their salt left who would deny that most mamals do indeed have emotions. It only makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. It's the height of selfishness to think that we humans are special in the animal kindom when it comes to emotions. Emotions would provide a HUGE evolutionary advantage. They help cenement relationships amogst comunal animals. A sense of guilt prevents social aniamals from acting too selfishly. Greed and Jealousy have their roles too. Only an idiot would claim that animals don't feel fear. And happines is a very strong positive reinformnet tool. Dogs are of course the most clear example of emotions in other animals but if you hang around any mammal for not too long you will realize that emotions are a very basic trait. I wouldn't go as far as to say that insects and fish have emotions, though even here you never know. It could be that they do and that we are just too alien to each other to recognize it.

 

[BoberFett]

When I was smaller, my parents had a dog. I didn't fucking feed the dog. I didn't walk the dog. The dog still would wag its tail and greet me happily not expecting ANYTHING from me except maybe a pat on the head and company.

Now lets all chop their paws off. Only way to be sure right.

You need to be neutered.

 

[Josh]

"Why don't you listen. Eddie, get that
motherfucking dog away from my plate."

"I'm gonna shoot this dog."

"I'm gonna shoot this mother... shut up.
I'm gonna shoot it. Stop crying."

"Stop crying Eddie, cuz you can get the fuck out."

"You're gettin' the fuck...I know you're seven !"

"But you'll be a seven year old walkin' the dog no house motherfucker !"

"I hate this motherfucking dog."

"You don't spend time with the dog Eddie."

"You don't feed the motherfucker."

"You don't pet it. You don't even know what the fuck the dogs name is anymore do you"

"The dog don't give a fuck he don't know his name. The dog is 7 yrs old dont know his name."

"Watch this: Coco ! Where the fuck is it goin' ?

The dog's stupid !'cos you don't spend time with the motherfucker."

I'm supposed to work hard all day
and come home to feed the motherfucking dog ?

Fuck no, I'm not feeding the motherfucker !"

"You know Eddie, when nobody's home."

"When nobody's home you know what I do?"

"I walk to the dog and I kick the motherfucker !"

"I kick the motherfucker with everything I got, Eddie !
And then I giggle my motherfucking ass off."

"'cos I hate the motherfucker !
'cos you don't clean up behind it !

"This ain't Scooby-Doo motherfucker !"

"Why can't you clean the dog."

"The dog shits all over the house. If noone tells you Eddie you dont clean the shit."

"You let the shit stay forever."

"Shit been in the den for months Eddie."

It's been in the den for months, you kids
go pass it you act like you don't see it.

"And unless you're told you won't clean the shit."

"The shit is hard as a rock now !
It's like motherfuckin furniture in there !"

"I went in there last week to watch the fight,
and said fuck it I put my drink on top of it Eddie"

"It's a coffee table now !
Why can't you clean up shit ?"

"My friends come over and they oh that's
lovely. It's not lovely it's a piece of shit."

 

[SonnyDaze]

Awesomeness

 

[edro]

They definitely have instinctual emotions but possibly not cognitive emotions.
I believe they DO have both. Their intellect and language is greatly reduced compared to ours, so it's tough to see explicit examples of the cognitive emotion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion

 

[JulesMaximus]

My dog may not feel emotions per se but she definitely gets depressed and won't eat when we are out of town on vacation. The cat on the other hand, she gets pissed and pulls the toilet paper off the roll and the towels and sheets out of the linen closet upstairs to let us know of her displeasure.

 

[eits]

that's the dumbest thing i've ever seen...

unless my dog's brain has no amygdala or cingulate gyrus, she has emotions.

anyone who can tell when their dog is depressed or sad whenever someone leaves or another pet dies knows without a doubt that animals have emotions. anyone who has gotten mad and yelled at their dog and can see the fear in the dog's eyes as it crouches down knows animals have emotions.

 

[eits]

dude dogs have emotions.

My dog clearly expresses affection.
My dog also knows when he's in trouble, so he feels guilt.
My dog also is very raciest...

My dog is 13yrs and we kept him since he was a puppy.
So i know my dog pretty darn well.

what is it with dogs being racist? even dogs owned by black people are racist. i don't get it...

my dog goes apeshit when a black guy comes near her.

 

[eits]

"Why don't you listen. Eddie, get that
motherfucking dog away from my plate."

"I'm gonna shoot this dog."

"I'm gonna shoot this mother... shut up.
I'm gonna shoot it. Stop crying."

"Stop crying Eddie, cuz you can get the fuck out."

"You're gettin' the fuck...I know you're seven !"

"But you'll be a seven year old walkin' the dog no house motherfucker !"

"I hate this motherfucking dog."

"You don't spend time with the dog Eddie."

"You don't feed the motherfucker."

"You don't pet it. You don't even know what the fuck the dogs name is anymore do you"

"The dog don't give a fuck he don't know his name. The dog is 7 yrs old dont know his name."

"Watch this: Coco ! Where the fuck is it goin' ?

The dog's stupid !'cos you don't spend time with the motherfucker."

I'm supposed to work hard all day
and come home to feed the motherfucking dog ?

Fuck no, I'm not feeding the motherfucker !"

"You know Eddie, when nobody's home."

"When nobody's home you know what I do?"

"I walk to the dog and I kick the motherfucker !"

"I kick the motherfucker with everything I got, Eddie !
And then I giggle my motherfucking ass off."

"'cos I hate the motherfucker !
'cos you don't clean up behind it !

"This ain't Scooby-Doo motherfucker !"

"Why can't you clean the dog."

"The dog shits all over the house. If noone tells you Eddie you dont clean the shit."

"You let the shit stay forever."

"Shit been in the den for months Eddie."

It's been in the den for months, you kids
go pass it you act like you don't see it.

"And unless you're told you won't clean the shit."

"The shit is hard as a rock now !
It's like motherfuckin furniture in there !"

"I went in there last week to watch the fight,
and said fuck it I put my drink on top of it Eddie"

"It's a coffee table now !
Why can't you clean up shit ?"

"My friends come over and they oh that's
lovely. It's not lovely it's a piece of shit."

you have got to be the most mentally fucked up person who's ever posted in these forums. every post i've seen from you has nothing to do with the point of the topic, except for some fucked up, twisted comments that contain the primary noun within the topic

 

[Adul]

our dog gets depressed whenone of us is gone for a period of time. He waits by the day waiting for whomever is gone to come home.

 

[JTsyo]

wonder now if the dogs will become antsy whenever the soldiers leave again.

 

[ryan256]

Video #3 reminds me of a beagle my parents used to have. She would wail just like that when she go really excited. We were always worried cause we thought the neighbors might think we were beating the crap outa the dog.