WE ARE THE BORG CONDO ASSOCIATION. WE WILL ADD YOUR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR COLLECTIVE. ALL TRACES OF INDIVIDUALITY WILL BE ERASED. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
Nitemare
Lifer
- Feb 8, 2001
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1 - Needs to be addressed ASAP
2 - Stop whining
3 - I said stop whining
4 - OMGWTF, how dare he....see 2 and 3
5 - They must be those rare wood mosquitos as opposed to the more common ones who lay their eggs in standing water
6 - ok, a legitimate concern.
7 - It's too hot to mow the grass, but the goats I ordered are on the way
8 - What has the box done to you?
2 - Stop whining
3 - I said stop whining
4 - OMGWTF, how dare he....see 2 and 3
5 - They must be those rare wood mosquitos as opposed to the more common ones who lay their eggs in standing water
6 - ok, a legitimate concern.
7 - It's too hot to mow the grass, but the goats I ordered are on the way
8 - What has the box done to you?
ultimatebob
Lifer
- Jul 1, 2001
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Werd. Who cares about some fricken white rocks and a brass door knocker? Hell,I'll bet that you're the guy who rats someone out if you spot an "illegal" house pet sitting in their front window, aren't you?
Man, I hope that guy in 708 throws that door knocker through your front window if he has to take it down because of your whining. Learn to mind your own business, will ya?
It's a big ass pile of rotting wood! It would surely retain water within the stack, as the outside of the stack acts like a dam.
erikistired
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- Sep 27, 2000
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it's not a neighborhood, it's a condo. if he'd wanted to do neighborhood activities he would have bought a house. stfu if you don't know what you're talking about.
i'm guessing everyone outside of sampson doesn't own property and certainly has never lived in a condo. if he wanted a place where people were planting whatever and there were large piles of crap laying around he would have bought a house and moved into a neighborhood. he didn't tho, he bought a condo. for those of you that couldn't deal with living like that, don't buy a condo! it's simple! i've lived in a condo and it definately wasn't for me (altho not having to keep up the outside grounds myself was a plus). the whole reason he obviously moved into a condo was having a uniform outside and all that. it was in his contract and that's what he wanted. now he's there, paying his 160/m (that he is required to pay slag, it's not a choice type of thing) and the whole thing is out of whack. if you aren't smart enough to leave shiz alone then you should definately not live in a condo. buy a house or keep renting an apartment. something. try going outside of your apartment buliding and digging up all the plants and putting down your own stuff. see how far that gets you.
anyway, good luck with your stuff. while i probably wouldn't notice/care about some of the smaller items (which really aren't critical) you obviously do and since you read and understood the rules before moving in you have every right to complain.
Skip 2, 3, and 4, and the third paragraph after the list. It's their home, too.
If 2 and 3 want to keep gardens, why the hell would anyone object, as long as they're well maintained?
Identical exteriors are boring as hell.
That's all.
If 2 and 3 want to keep gardens, why the hell would anyone object, as long as they're well maintained?
Identical exteriors are boring as hell.
That's all.
thats why I will never join a condo..... who cares if a guy plants some flowers? and a brass doorknocker?!?!!? for the love of god come on!
I'm in agreement. All of the owners were shown the covenants, and signed the form. If they can't live by the rules they approved of, they should move or face disciplinary action. If you signed an employment contract that specifically said you couldn't dance on your desk, and you did anyway, would you fault the company if they fired you?
I don't live in a development that has such rules for a reason, but if I signed off on the rules I would certainly be bound to observe them.
I dont think Blieb is being anal at all. Rules are rules. I see it as simply protecting your investment.
mugs
Lifer
- Apr 29, 2003
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I can agree with you on everything but the knocker. Come on, you can't tell me it's noticeable enough at a distance that it makes the place look bad. The shrubs and mulch though, I can see how that would look bad if everyone had the same kind except one or two houses. People move to these places because they don't want the opposite extreme where everything looks terrible. If you can't play by the rules, you shouldn't live there. I certainly wouldn't choose to live there, but I wouldn't move in and try to change everything.
Just don't start complaining about people leaving their garbage can out for more than 24 hours, or driving pick-up trucks and beat up vans and that sort of thing... there's an extent to which it's reasonable, but some HOAs go way beyond what's reasonable.
Just don't start complaining about people leaving their garbage can out for more than 24 hours, or driving pick-up trucks and beat up vans and that sort of thing... there's an extent to which it's reasonable, but some HOAs go way beyond what's reasonable.
I have to agree with the OP. I lived in a new association and everyone ignored the rules while it was being completed because the mindset was "once they are done building all units, they usually fix the landscape and at that time they will remove the stuff that isn't allowed." Well, more and more of the rules were ignored and the meetings were just attended by myself and the "unpaid president". Once it was all said and done, nothing changed and everything looked like crap. We actually had to pay more for our fees since the landscaper had to do more weedeating etc for the weekly upkeep. It is best to stick to the letter of the contract from day one.
One thing that most people don't know is that when you move into an association, you are fully aware of the rules and you sign a contract that states they can put a lein on your home for the fines if you don't abide by the rules. If you don't want to live in a neighborhood that cares what kind of door knocker you have then don't live in a neighborhood that has a rule against that. It is that simple. Just like someone that doesn't want to live next to a person with a door knocker doesn't have to buy the house next door to one.
I moved out when I was fined without warning when I put up a DSS dish. They amended the contract by vote when I was on vacation and I didn't catch up on the meetings. I put it up, 2 days later I got a fine notice with no warning. It was my fault for not reading the minutes so I paid the fine and got a SWEET offer on my unit (133% what I paid after 1 year) and moved out. I chose to move into a non association neighborhood so I could be more creative in my landscaping.
One thing that most people don't know is that when you move into an association, you are fully aware of the rules and you sign a contract that states they can put a lein on your home for the fines if you don't abide by the rules. If you don't want to live in a neighborhood that cares what kind of door knocker you have then don't live in a neighborhood that has a rule against that. It is that simple. Just like someone that doesn't want to live next to a person with a door knocker doesn't have to buy the house next door to one.
I moved out when I was fined without warning when I put up a DSS dish. They amended the contract by vote when I was on vacation and I didn't catch up on the meetings. I put it up, 2 days later I got a fine notice with no warning. It was my fault for not reading the minutes so I paid the fine and got a SWEET offer on my unit (133% what I paid after 1 year) and moved out. I chose to move into a non association neighborhood so I could be more creative in my landscaping.
Last several posts have been great! Thanks!
My next place will be 100% maintained by me. This whole thing is becoming a pain. One of the biggest reasons I moved here was so I wouldn't have to do landscaping, I wanted to wait until I had more free time, and $$$$ to do it right.
Oh well ... I wonder what code enforcement will do
*evil laugh*
My next place will be 100% maintained by me. This whole thing is becoming a pain. One of the biggest reasons I moved here was so I wouldn't have to do landscaping, I wanted to wait until I had more free time, and $$$$ to do it right.
Oh well ... I wonder what code enforcement will do
*evil laugh*
It seems like you are using a slippery slope argument with regards to the brass knocker. That doesn't really work. If someone puts up a brass knocker and no one cares, it's not going to lead to someone erecting a 500 foot tall shrine to jessica simpson without anyone caring. I think some of these rules are in place because it's kind of understood that they aren't enforced unless something is totally outrageous. Like a giant penis door knocker or something.
The landscaping one is a bit more valid, though I'm a little unclear as to what people are allowed versus not allowed to do, and whose responsibility it is.
Also worth noting... in some of these, people who are doing benign things like putting up brass knockers are going to be punished for major, reasonable concerns that are the fault of the association.
The landscaping one is a bit more valid, though I'm a little unclear as to what people are allowed versus not allowed to do, and whose responsibility it is.
Also worth noting... in some of these, people who are doing benign things like putting up brass knockers are going to be punished for major, reasonable concerns that are the fault of the association.
WTFBBQ people. The brass-knocker is just one teenie tiny thing. But it's on the list for gerth.
People aren't supposed to alter the ground in any way. You can have potted plants (within reason), but are not to put anything in the ground or change it in any way.
Why put it on the list then? You have enough complaints without that one. It can only do harm to everyone since no one actually cares about it except as an example of a violation of a rule that is probably worded too strictly to prevent ludicrous door knockers.
I agree with you about landscaping if that is the way the rules are written. My problem doesn't have as much to do with the uniform look of the places; it's more about environment, health, and property value.
Phoenix86
Lifer
- May 21, 2003
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If you want someone to care about the bigger things, discard the teenie tiny things. As said by Torpid, slippery slope is not valid. Actually it's considered a logical fallacy, but whatever.
You will not get your point across if you include whiny requests such as "wah, he has a brass door knocker and it's lowering my property value".
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