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Fixed, and you're absolutely right. Nobody makes as much money from their customers as Apple.
Another reason why I went with Android.
Another reason why I went with Android.
TuxDave
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Let's roll with that idea that Apple users are simple minded and Android users are smart. Then in that case, wouldn't Android users use Google things more because they want to debug it themselves and fix it while Apple users will not because they'll be calling Apple or friends to figure things out.
I am curious to see how much the iPhone 5 and the iPad Mini will boost Apple's market share on iOS.
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It will boost Apple's numbers domestically by a small amount, but their worldwide market share numbers have been on a continual decline regardless of product releases.
Even in the tablet market, Android is on the rise: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Google-Android-Tablet-Market-Share,18782.html
Just wait until BB10!
Holy shit is that a perfect post. Actually laughed out loud at that one. How is this post not getting more love. Do people not know who the man is?
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The tablet market share for iOS will obviously fall since it's impossible for Apple to sell 9 iPads for every Android tablet that sells.
I wonder if App developers are still going to prioritize apps for iOS than Android.
Do you think the iOS mobile system will still garner a lot of developer/app support?
I hope this will make Apple to step up their game dramatically.
Just because Android is the market leader doesn't mean Apple is losing profitability. That 75% is split amongst Google, LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony. The 15% that Apple has is all just for Apple. Apple doesn't need to maintain dominance in marketshare because realistically, they've never captured the entire market. All they need is to keep their consumer base and attract new consumers, which the chart shows they have.
webdave
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IMO devs will still favor iOS for 2 reasons. One, being a lot less pirating of applications and two being the Android fragmentation issue. Last I checked Gingerbread was still install on over 50% of Android devices. I'm not an Apple fan but iOS still has the best applications for these two reasons.
TuxDave
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It would be nice if a first hand app developer would be able to chime in. I can only guess but my thinking is.
Step 1) An app developer programs something targeted for iPhone5 or SGS3 first and let's say that takes the same time.
Step 2) How long will it take to revalidate it for 4S/4 vs (the next top two phones for Android)
What income or market/time involved will they get between iOS vs Android in step 1?
What income or market/time involved will they get from going to step 2?
That's the only reason why I think iOS is prioritized. They can get the most $$$ per development time at first and then work on expanding to Android. But this is me just making stuff up.
Why not? They still sell a huge amount of product and maintain a consistent consumer base.
Probably. If you were to break down the sales, you'd see that there's much less of a disparity between iOS and Android in the U.S. and most of the other first world countries.
Once you throw in China, India, etc. it's going to bolster Android's market share by a lot, but right now these aren't the customer's that app developers are targeting, well at least not app developers in the West.
It would be nice if a first hand app developer would be able to chime in. I can only guess but my thinking is.
Step 1) An app developer programs something targeted for iPhone5 or SGS3 first and let's say that takes the same time.
Step 2) How long will it take to revalidate it for 4S/4 vs (the next top two phones for Android)
What income or market/time involved will they get between iOS vs Android in step 1?
What income or market/time involved will they get from going to step 2?
That's the only reason why I think iOS is prioritized. They can get the most $$$ per development time at first and then work on expanding to Android. But this is me just making stuff up.
I think i recall reading that developers take longer to develop for Android because they need to develop not only for Android, but also with support of every Android device on the market in terms of hardware, screen res and etc.
An impressive showing by Android. Overall, I don't think Apple has much to worry about.
Apple isn't a market leader in the PC business and they're perfectly fine with that. I don't see the mobile space being any different.
I think the big incentive for Devs is that when Apple releases a new OS, millions of iOS users update in a matter of 1 week.
Apple isn't a market leader in the PC business and they're perfectly fine with that. I don't see the mobile space being any different.
I think the big incentive for Devs is that when Apple releases a new OS, millions of iOS users update in a matter of 1 week.
Anubis
No Lifer
At the same time though Android developers don't have to work with Objective-C or Apple's terrible SDK so they do make up some time in that regard.
Haha, so true.
I will also like to note that people are making the chart out to be Android vs. Apple. I don't think that is the case considering both companies grew in market share, albeit Android grew considerably larger. Both companies are clearly drawing consumers away from other mobile device OS's(BB, Symbian, etc). The beauty of Android is it comes in a variety of packages at many price points. Apple seems to be holding to being a flagship device with a flagship price tag, and keeping the device options relatively small. For one company to hold 15% with their OS also means its with their hardware, which is impressive.
From Wikipedia:
On April 7, 2003, two days before Baghdad fell to US forces, al-Sahhaf claimed that there were no American troops in Baghdad, and that the Americans were committing suicide by the hundreds at the city's gates. He made this statement while standing on the east bank of the Dijli (Tigris) River in the center of Baghdad. His back was to the river and reporters could see two American Army M1 Abrams tanks behind him on a road on the far side of the river.
He was absolutely famous for making completely false ridiculous statements that everyone knew to be false immediately. He was the Iraqi Information/Propaganda Minister. He became pretty popular in the west due to his awesome quotable statements.
Some awesome quotes here:
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/
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