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Android phone sales up 886%

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senseamp said:
Amazing growth for Android. Kinda blows the whole too hard to use for the average consumer myth out of the water.
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Are people buying them because they are Android phone or because that's what was pushed on them by the carrier because of deals/BOGOs?

This supports that it's not Android they are explicitly purchasing:

As hot a seller as Google Android phones are right now, its user base isn’t the most satisfied with their device. When surveying current Android device owners, Nielson found that 71 percent would buy an Android phone again. That sounds like a high loyalty rating, but it falls noticeably short when asking iPhone owners about their next handset — 89 percent are happy with iOS4 and plan to buy a future Apple handset.
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http://gigaom.com/2010/08/02/android-sales-overtake-iphone-in-the-u-s/

Plus the figures do not include the iPhone 4.
 
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cheezy321 said:
I think this is what he is trying to say:
The direct impact of android onto google's bottom line is nil.

The indirect impact of android on google's bottom line is HUGE.
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That is what I was trying to say.

The indirect impact of android on google's bottom line could be huge.
What people here are assuming is that the increase in mobile advertising wouldn't have come about if Google hadn't entered the smart phone market. That is not the case.

But you also have to look at the fact that not every phone necessarily makes Google money.
 
dwell said:
Pathetic rebuttal which only reinforces my assertion.
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Wrong, I didn't think an actual reply was worth the effort. Your "argument" is absurd. You could say similar things about the iphone.

People buy the iphone because it's super duper but people only buy Android phones because their carrier forces it on them. That's essentially what you just said and it's so ridiculous it barely warrants a serious reply. Like I said, pathetic.
 
JD50 said:
pathetic attempt.
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dwell said:
Your own link?

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Did you even read the article, or just misread the headline?
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I am agreeing with you. lol
 
JD50 said:
Where did I state otherwise?
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The phrase 'pathetic attempt' would indicate that you dont find the fact that iPhone 4 sales aren't included in that data as a non-issue. It most definitely is not.

And if you want to compare operating systems, then actually compare operating systems. Android has many different phones with many different variations. iPhone is just 1 phone stuck on 1 carrier. Why dont we just include all units that use iOS as a comparison then?
 
dwell said:
Are people buying them because they are Android phone or because that's what was pushed on them by the carrier because of deals/BOGOs?

This supports that it's not Android they are explicitly purchasing:



http://gigaom.com/2010/08/02/android-sales-overtake-iphone-in-the-u-s/

Plus the figures do not include the iPhone 4.
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So Android has a business model that gets phones sold and build brand loyalty? Oh no!

Come on Dwell...we started off this thread by complimenting iOS. I'm sure you can come up with one positive thing to say about Android sales being up that much. Or are you just being....

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cheezy321 said:
The phrase 'pathetic attempt' would indicate that you dont find the fact that iPhone 4 sales aren't included in that data as a non-issue. It most definitely is not.

And if you want to compare operating systems, then actually compare operating systems. Android has many different phones with many different variations. iPhone is just 1 phone stuck on 1 carrier. Why dont we just include all units that use iOS as a comparison then?
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I was responding to the first part of his post, I don't care how Android's sales compare to iphone sales.
 
rudeguy said:
Come on Dwell...we started off this thread by complimenting iOS. I'm sure you can come up with one positive thing to say about Android sales being up that much.
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Google puts out a free OS that manufactures put on devices of varying levels of quality. Nothing positive to say about it because IMO Android pales in comparison to iOS. It's not even close.
 
dwell said:
http://gigaom.com/2010/08/02/android-sales-overtake-iphone-in-the-u-s/

Plus the figures do not include the iPhone 4.
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From the link:
According to this data, new Android subscribers passed iPhone subscribers in the second quarter, which ended on June 30. The new iPhone 4 was announced on June 7, but not available until June 24th.

In other words, this data only includes one week of iPhone 4 sales.
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So they had 1 week of sales. Isn't the time where they sold the most Iphones and the sales sloping off after that? What was it 1.3 million in that 1st week and 3.2million for the whole month?

Considering 160000+ Android activations/day, the trajectory isn't changing much.
 
sciwizam said:
From the link: So they had 1 week of sales. Isn't the time where they sold the most Iphones and the sales sloping off after that? What was it 1.3 million in that 1st week and 3.2million for the whole month?

Considering 160000+ Android activations/day, the trajectory isn't changing much.
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No. sales havent dropped off. According to apple, they are selling every single iphone 4 they make.
 
Patranus said:
That is what I was trying to say.

The indirect impact of android on google's bottom line could be huge.
What people here are assuming is that the increase in mobile advertising wouldn't have come about if Google hadn't entered the smart phone market. That is not the case.

But you also have to look at the fact that not every phone necessarily makes Google money.
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It's a valid point, but if Google wanted to make money off Android directly they probably wouldn't have open sourced it and gave it away now would they? 😀

Google just wanted to ensure that there was a competitive platform that would guarantee consumers access to their services. Apple can't be trusted with this because they love closed systems. Microsoft was obviously falling behind. Palm was too small to compete. Android was Googles only move to secure the mobile sector.
 
cheezy321 said:
No. sales havent dropped off. According to apple, they are selling every single iphone 4 they make.
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Where did I say they have stock sitting on the shelf? So, they can't make them fast enough. Same thing for the Droid Incredible and Droid X.
 
I love the people who ignore that fact that a business is a business. If carriers offer phones cheap to consumers, some posters here try to disqualify those sales, but Google developed a business plan that allows for cheaper handsets (and therefore lower quality).

Keep in mind that the vast majority of consumers may not want to spend the extra money on a phone (I don't get it personally since phone price is but a fraction of the TCO). Apple limits themselves to the high end and charges a premium for it. Androids "satisfaction rating" is lower because they offer lower end phones that may turn off a percentage of people, but it also hooks a good number of them.

IMO Android has a much more sustainable busness model in the long term. It's already rocketing toward Apple. It will become more interesting if/when Apple offers devices on multiple carries, but it was Apples brain-dead decision to lock into ATT for an eternity.
 
dwell said:
Are people buying them because they are Android phone or because that's what was pushed on them by the carrier because of deals/BOGOs?

This supports that it's not Android they are explicitly purchasing:



http://gigaom.com/2010/08/02/android-sales-overtake-iphone-in-the-u-s/

Plus the figures do not include the iPhone 4.
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People are buying the overall experience, device + OS + carrier for an overall contract price. And more people are choosing the Android experience than Apple. You can say it's the carrier, so what, Apple picked its carrier. You can say it's the price, so what, open platform = more competition and variety = better deals available to consumer. Point is for whatever reasons, more people are picking the Android experience than Apple one. If the OS was too hard to use by an average guy, that would not be happening.
 
ObscureCaucasian said:
IMO Android has a much more sustainable busness model in the long term. It's already rocketing toward Apple. It will become more interesting if/when Apple offers devices on multiple carries, but it was Apples brain-dead decision to lock into ATT for an eternity.
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Are you high?
The Google business model depends on people using Google services which is no guarantee after the sale.
 
ObscureCaucasian said:
It's a valid point, but if Google wanted to make money off Android directly they probably wouldn't have open sourced it and gave it away now would they? 😀

Google just wanted to ensure that there was a competitive platform that would guarantee consumers access to their services. Apple can't be trusted with this because they love closed systems. Microsoft was obviously falling behind. Palm was too small to compete. Android was Googles only move to secure the mobile sector.
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They wouldn't of even had to close the source code (which they probably couldn't do anyways), you can still sell open source software. They could've done exactly what apple did with the iphone and still kept the OS open source, but they didn't and it's obviously working for them.
 
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