Andrew Yang pulls a Kanye

[cytg111]

Cause that is exactly what you need now with everything at stake and a wobbly democracy… take votes away from those fighting the Orcs…

Group of Republicans and Democrats form new political party to appeal to moderates

A group of former Republican and Democratic officials are forming a new political party called Forward, in an attempt to appeal to what they call the "moderate, common-sense majority."

edition.cnn.com

 

[uclaLabrat]

Im honestly not sure who this will fuck over more. Probably dems? But maybe repubs, since all the "independents" and never trumpers may flock to this party and split their vote more than dems.

 

[nickqt]

Cause that is exactly what you need now with everything at stake and a wobbly democracy… take votes away from those fighting the Orcs…

Group of Republicans and Democrats form new political party to appeal to moderates

A group of former Republican and Democratic officials are forming a new political party called Forward, in an attempt to appeal to what they call the "moderate, common-sense majority."

edition.cnn.com

Yes, grifters do this for every election cycle. Independents™, Green Party™, NoLabels™, and now Forward™.

If a bunch of nobody Republicans and Democrats form a "centrist" Party, hold onto your fucking wallets.

 

[Shmee]

Interesting, hopefully this will help fix all the toxic divisiveness. I doubt it will go that far though.

 

[Lezunto]

It will not fix much. Mr. Yang was not exactly accepted by middle of the roaders. It's a good try though.

I just don't get this constant division and it's getting worse. Liberal, Moderate, Socialist, Progressive, Independent, Anarchist ... yeah whatever.

Just say your piece - politely without personal insults which oh, so many seem to enjoy. And vote Blue.

Really bad timing, Mr. Yang, et al. We need UNITY

Thank you for cutting to the chase on this, cytg111.

 

[Gardener]

toxic divisiveness aka "both-sides" bullshit

Don't embrace the fantasy that both sides are equally guilty.

If you read between the lines they have co-opted the democratic platform...gun control, addressing climate change, and legal abortion. Yang just gives these republicans some cred.

He's a crank, like ol' Joe Lieberman.

 

[sactoking]

I guarantee this will not have a statistically significant effect on R or D voting.

 

[Moonbeam]

Did I mention that hating yourself creates a back handed death wish. All I ever wanted was to be good. All we will get if either side wins is evil. My idea of what is extreme is all that counts. I should control things for the nice moderate people.

 

[NostaSeronx]

The issue is that we don't actually need another moderate party. As the Democratic party in the present is the only moderate party. Forward is going to be just another right-wing conservative party. This fake-moderate scheme has popped up before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Party_of_America

Not Right. Not Left. Forward. - Unity Party

Visit The Official Website Of The United National Committee Of The Unity Party of America.

unityparty.us

Home - FWDTogether

Moving Forward Together. After working in parallel to strengthen our democracy, the Forward Party, the Renew America Movement, and the Serve America Movement are pleased to announce the formal merger of our three organizations.We are uniting from across the political spectrum to create the...

fwdtogether.org

The actual party we need is a viable left-orientated party without international baggage.

 

[cytg111]

The issue is that we don't actually need another moderate party. As the Democratic party in the present is the only moderate party. Forward is going to be just another right-wing conservative party. This fake-moderate scheme has popped up before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Party_of_America

Not Right. Not Left. Forward. - Unity Party

Visit The Official Website Of The United National Committee Of The Unity Party of America.

unityparty.us

Home - FWDTogether

Moving Forward Together. After working in parallel to strengthen our democracy, the Forward Party, the Renew America Movement, and the Serve America Movement are pleased to announce the formal merger of our three organizations.We are uniting from across the political spectrum to create the...

fwdtogether.org

The actual party we need is a viable left-orientated party without international baggage.

From outside it's glaring obvious that you need an AOC-Sanders kind of coalition going forward. It was perhaps the one thing I agreed with Bannon on with regards to 2016, discussing it after the fact of course he was glad Trump won but he'd rather have seen him run against Sanders. Why? Cause it would a true battle of ideologies.

 

[fskimospy]

Yang shows a fundamental lack of understanding of what ‘moderate’ voters are. People think American politics is a place where person A holds super left beliefs and person B holds super right beliefs and therefore person C, the moderate, will be somewhere between them.

In reality person C likely holds a collection of beliefs, often contradictory and often holds both super left and super right beliefs so even if they all average out to ‘moderate’ their individual beliefs are not.

 

[NostaSeronx]

From outside it's glaring obvious that you need an AOC-Sanders kind of coalition going forward. It was perhaps the one thing I agreed with Bannon on with regards to 2016, discussing it after the fact of course he was glad Trump won but he'd rather have seen him run against Sanders. Why? Cause it would a true battle of ideologies.

Not sure what you mean but AOC and Bernie have already made an impact. The Democratic party is just a tiny bit more left than before they participated.

Green-Independents which are the majority of Greens in the USA are right-winged in office.
Libertarians of which the majority are right-winged in office.
Unity/Forward/Constitution are all right-wing parties in office. Since, they are segmented between Democrats("one fringe") and Republicans("another fringe").
Democrats are centrist-winged, since they are all left of the above.

The issue is the utter lack of an actual leftist party that actually has actual leftist members.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Was going to post about the link yesterday but I quickly lost interest.
Kind of fitting since they formed the most boring faction ever.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Not sure what you mean but AOC and Bernie have already made an impact. The Democratic party is just a tiny bit more left than before they participated.

Green-Independents which are the majority of Greens in the USA are right-winged in office.
Libertarians of which the majority are right-winged in office.
Unity/Forward/Conservative are all right-wing parties in office. Since, they are segmented between Democrats("one fringe") and Republicans("another fringe").
Democrats are centrist-winged, since they are all left of the above.

The issue is the utter lack of an actual leftist party that actually has actual leftist members.

The way the US political system is setup, a two-party system is the optimum result. Anything else hinders your chances of winning. That's why 3rd parties basically will never win - at least at the national level.

If you're a 3rd party pulling votes, you're hurting one of the other major parties. So it's in their best interest in winning to keep as many people under their tent as possible.

And even if you do win seats in Congress...what then? No coalition needs to be formed. You're basically irrelevant, politically. You'd need a whole block in Congress to have any meaningful political power (I'm guessing 5-10 people minimum...just enough to cause problems passing legislation)

 

[cytg111]

Not sure what you mean but AOC and Bernie have already made an impact. The Democratic party is just a tiny bit more left than before they participated.

Green-Independents which are the majority of Greens in the USA are right-winged in office.
Libertarians of which the majority are right-winged in office.
Unity/Forward/Conservative are all right-wing parties in office. Since, they are segmented between Democrats("one fringe") and Republicans("another fringe").
Democrats are centrist-winged, since they are all left of the above.

The issue is the utter lack of an actual leftist party that actually has actual leftist members.

Well thats actually what I meant, AOC for president, Sanders speaker and who should we get for Senate leader?

 

[dank69]

Bottom line: if you are to the right of Democrats you are a lunatic.

 

[Juiblex]

Bottom line: if you are to the right of Democrats you are a lunatic.

Says the lunatic.

Anyways...

I think its a great idea. Both democrats and republicans are controlled by Zionists and therefore we get fucked either way.

If this 3rd party doesn't have that problem I'd vote for them.

 

[dank69]

Yeah you use terms like Zionists but I'm the lunatic.

 

[fskimospy]

Says the lunatic.

Anyways...

I think its a great idea. Both democrats and republicans are controlled by Zionists and therefore we get fucked either way.

If this 3rd party doesn't have that problem I'd vote for them.

lolwut.

 

[cytg111]

Says the lunatic.

Anyways...

I think its a great idea. Both democrats and republicans are controlled by Zionists and therefore we get fucked either way.

If this 3rd party doesn't have that problem I'd vote for them.

Wait what?

 

[brycejones]

Says the lunatic.

Anyways...

I think its a great idea. Both democrats and republicans are controlled by Zionists and therefore we get fucked either way.

If this 3rd party doesn't have that problem I'd vote for them.

Adolf is that you?

 

[dlerious]

I don't see them going anywhere. Yang had a few interesting ideas when he ran for President, but looking at his policies and watching his mayoral run, I see him as nothing more than a buzzword candidate.

 

[cytg111]

...
If this 3rd party doesn't have that problem I'd vote for them.

3rd "party" wink wink ... AmIRight?

 

[eelw]

The way the US political system is setup, a two-party system is the optimum result. Anything else hinders your chances of winning. That's why 3rd parties basically will never win - at least at the national level.

If you're a 3rd party pulling votes, you're hurting one of the other major parties. So it's in their best interest in winning to keep as many people under their tent as possible.

Why the EC is STUPID!!!!!!!

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Why the EC is STUPID!!!!!!!

So's one-vote systems. Ranked choice or bust.