Andrew Luck retiring from NFL

[IndyColtsFan]

Much respect to Andrew Luck for what he has done.

Previous posters have listed the never ending list of injuries he has went through for the past 4 years. At a certain point, I guess he was just mentally exhausted. Some say he didn't love the game enough, but enduring 4 straight years of hell on your body shows he did love the game. The game literally beat him to a pulp. To the point he had to raise the white flag.

Keep in mind he could have strung this along, and collected millions more. And maybe even get a next contract which would have been almost guaranteed to be $35 million a year considering his talents. Hell, look at Sam Bradford and the money he stole.

Colts are also letting him keep $25 million they were owed due to his retirement.

 

[glenn1]

Would be an amazing FU to the Colts if he somehow wrangled his way onto the Patriots as the direct successor to TB12.

 

[BUTCH1]

Colts are also letting him keep $25 million they were owed due to his retirement.

Good, they needed to do that, a small payback for not equipping the offense with any run game to speak of and many bad O-lines.

 

[zinfamous]

I guess Russell Wilson wins

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/andrew-luck-vs-rg3.2293323/

:thumbsup:

 

[zinfamous]

But seriously, good for the guy. I didn't see him making it 5 more years for sure, maybe even two. Get out before his brain is complete paste.

No one could be paid enough to stand behind that garbage O-Line in that garbage organization that does nothing but wreck QBs. Apparently, Manning is barely ambulatory already.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

But seriously, good for the guy. I didn't see him making it 5 more years for sure, maybe even two. Get out before his brain is complete paste.

No one could be paid enough to stand behind that garbage O-Line in that garbage organization that does nothing but wreck QBs. Apparently, Manning is barely ambulatory already.

Look at one of my childhood heroes and what the game did to him - Earl Campbell. It’s horrible to see a legend like him in the condition he’s in, and that doesn’t count all the cases of CTE. You guys have probably noticed I don’t post much about the NFL any more, and there are many reasons. How these players are treated after their playing days are over is a big part of it though. I find it more and more difficult to support this league.

A summary on Earl Campbell from Wikipedia:

Campbell has experienced various physical ailments in his later life. By 2001, at age 46, he could barely close his fist due to arthritis in his hands.[86] He developed foot drop due to nerve damage in his legs, and has difficulty bending his back and knees.[86][87] He was diagnosed with spinal stenosis in 2009.[88] Because of his difficulty walking he uses a cane or a walker, and for longer distances a wheelchair.[5][89] Campbell at first maintained the ailments were genetic,[89][90] but said in 2012, "I think some of it came from playing football, playing the way I did."[84][91]
In 2009, Campbell became addicted to painkillers prescribed for his spinal stenosis, taking as many as ten OxyContin pills a day with Budweiser.[88][91][92] He went through rehabilitation and broke his addiction the same year, and since publicizing the incident in 2013 has spoken out about the dangers of substance abuse.[88]

 

[Exterous]

Good, they needed to do that, a small payback for not equipping the offense with any run game to speak of and many bad O-lines.

This is why I don't think things will end well for Stafford. Dude is way tougher than I thought but every year its the same thing for the lions: Have Stafford throw the ball a lot. No defense is surprised by it and the O-line has never been all that great so he has taken a crap ton of shots through his career.

 

[zinfamous]

Look at one of my childhood heroes and what the game did to him - Earl Campbell. It’s horrible to see a legend like him in the condition he’s in, and that doesn’t count all the cases of CTE. You guys have probably noticed I don’t post much about the NFL any more, and there are many reasons. How these players are treated after their playing days is over is a big part of it though. I find it more and more difficult to support this league.

A summary on Earl Campbell from Wikipedia:

Agree 100% with you, man. I'm mostly sitting by watching these days as the sport eventually fades away because the reality of what it does to people, and how the NFL treats them, can't possibly survive wider exposure. If it's not gone entirely, I think the game will be mostly unrecognizable 10 years from now....and I won't miss it.

 

[glenn1]

I wish the man the best. It's interesting to look back and see how his career played out however.

Quarterback A since 2012: 60.8% completion rate, 7.2 yards/attempt, 171 TD vs. 83 INT, 275.2 yards/game

Quarterback B since 2012: 64.5% completion rate, 7.55 yards/attempt, 217 TD vs. 56 INT, 284.2 yards/game.

Any guesses who those two QBs are?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I wish the man the best. It's interesting to look back and see how his career played out however.

Quarterback A since 2012: 60.8% completion rate, 7.2 yards/attempt, 171 TD vs. 83 INT, 275.2 yards/game

Quarterback B since 2012: 64.5% completion rate, 7.55 yards/attempt, 217 TD vs. 56 INT, 284.2 yards/game.

Any guesses who those two QBs are?

QB A is Luck. I'm going to guess QB B is PFM.

EDIT: Nope, QB B is definitely not PFM - I forgot how bad his last year was. Probably Brady.

 

[glenn1]

QB A is Luck. I'm going to guess QB B is PFM.

EDIT: Nope, QB B is definitely not PFM - I forgot how bad his last year was. Probably Brady.

Yep, TB12.

 

[Mai72]

I think this will start to be a common thing. Retire early while you still have a body that is still functioning. Really, if you do it correctly, how much money do you need?

What we know about the impact football has on the brain shoud be enough evidene to get the money, put in a few years and get the hell out. A pro football player had once stated "when you sign your contract you know that you're forgoing your middle years." How many ex NFL players who are in their 40s, and 50s who have extreme difficulty getting out of bed in the morning. Who are constantly in pain for the remainder of their lives. And the unfortunate many who are suffering from brain trama.

https://www.amenclinics.com/blog/abnormally-low-blood-flow-indicates-damage-nfl-players-brains/

The work Daniel Amen has done oon concussions of thousands professional football players is terrifying IMO. I remember Dr. Amen saying that he would do cat scans on ex pro ball players and many of their brains were much older then than biological age. Again, I say put a few years in the NFL and get out.

 

[eng2d2]

they took the money and fame. Now complain of cte clever. Sounds like scam to me.

 

[zinfamous]

they took the money and fame. Now complain of cte clever. Sounds like scam to me.

........OK?

 

[BUTCH1]

The only thing Luck could/should have done different was make this decision a while back, 1.5 weeks before the season is set to start is leaving the coaching staff in a bad position.

 

[brainhulk]

The only thing Luck could/should have done different was make this decision a while back, 1.5 weeks before the season is set to start is leaving the coaching staff in a bad position.

I bet management knew. Gotta sell them season tickets bruh

 

[darkswordsman17]

Sad to see such a promising career cut short. Glad he's being smart and getting out ahead of time though as it sounds like he wasn't enjoying things.

Which, fuck the whiny bitch Colts fans. They're lucky as shit the NFL didn't grow a backbone and fuck the Colts out of the top pick after they did the closest to intentionally tanking that you basically can without straight up saying that's what you're doing just so they could get him.

But seriously, good for the guy. I didn't see him making it 5 more years for sure, maybe even two. Get out before his brain is complete paste.

No one could be paid enough to stand behind that garbage O-Line in that garbage organization that does nothing but wreck QBs. Apparently, Manning is barely ambulatory already.

I think someone did a comparison and Russell Wilson has been sacked a LOT more than Luck (but people keep acting like he's been on a loaded team and why he's had more success than Luck, with the o-line being one area they seem to act like Luck had garbage but Wilson didn't). Same deal, I think Brady was sacked a LOT more than Peyton Manning, but you wouldn't know if if you listen to Colts fans who act like Brady has had juggernaut lines that kept him from getting beaten up. Its one of the reasons why I think there's almost a 100% chance that Brady has been doing something (and his "oh I just eat super clean and do yoga" stuff is bullshit). Which I think Manning was prior to the complete bullshit way that they let him get away with it when he was with the Broncos, so its certainly not just him. I think there was getting to be some heat, so Manning stopped sometime during that last season, and then he went to complete shit not long after (which should give you an idea of how effective that stuff is for extending careers, without it Manning was just plain done, with it he literally set all time passing records), and then after that season we got the story about him being tied to HGH shipments (oh but it was for his wife!).

Frankly, I think the NFL could help themselves by going to bat for the players in saying they need that stuff for recovery (and pot for dealing with chronic pain). Maybe limit it to players on IR and during like a span of 1-2 months during the offseason just after the season ends.

 

[darkswordsman17]

The only thing Luck could/should have done different was make this decision a while back, 1.5 weeks before the season is set to start is leaving the coaching staff in a bad position.

He probably didn't know before then and was trying to work his way back and maybe he got some news that was gonna set him back and decided it'd be better to let them know now than try and extend it and have them constantly deal with "when will Luck be back?"

Which, there's some Chiefs fans that hate Eric Berry now (literally blame him for them not winning the Super Bowl last year), and lots of discussing about how he went about things. Hell there's some that are pissed at him for allegedly "playing the cancer card" to get the Chiefs to give him the contract he got a couple of years back when he had that awesome season after coming back from cancer.

There's a lot of really shitty fans out there.

 

[brainhulk]

At least he didn't retire during halftime of a real game

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Sad to see such a promising career cut short. Glad he's being smart and getting out ahead of time though as it sounds like he wasn't enjoying things.

Which, fuck the whiny bitch Colts fans. They're lucky as shit the NFL didn't grow a backbone and fuck the Colts out of the top pick after they did the closest to intentionally tanking that you basically can without straight up saying that's what you're doing just so they could get him.

Yep, the entire coaching staff and front office who lost their jobs as a result of that "intentional tanking" planned it all along, just so they could get fired. Makes sense.

The Colts sucked bad. Period. The ONLY legitimate argument pointing to them "intentionally tanking" was the fact that Curtis Painter was allowed to start so many games, but if you followed the Colts back then, you know exactly why he started - Polian's ego dictated it because he thought he found a hidden gem and people bashed him ceaselessly for it. Polian tried to "prove them wrong" and it backfired on him.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I dislike Luck because I'm a Titans fan....but having said that, I'm upset because I only dislike the QB's that are a threat...and division rivals are doubly hated. =P

Luck is/was really good and will be missed. I've watched him play since 2012...I think he won every game he played in Nashville.

I read an article that he got married this past offseason and that they're expecting a baby. Chances are, he's deciding to retire to preserve his body and be a family man. If his dad is the CEO of the XFL, he's got options there to continue working and making bank. Good for him and I wish him the best of luck. He was always a great competitor in a tough league.