And yet a new linux problem...... and some partition problems

[Tipnmo101]

I got it installed (went out and picked up old ide cdrom), everything boots up like normal.... then comes the lilio (or what ever it is called, the thing where you select your os), of course i selected linux... starts the boot process and stops!! stoped on something about IDE3 and something in the bios... ok now what??..... this may be a horrible stuiped question... or there might be something that i should have done before posting... the only thing is i have no idea how to do anything involving linux!!! this is my first experance with linux and its not going so well.... so if someone could point me in the right direction i would greatly appreciat it......

 

[andri]

erm, "somehing about" is not going to help you.
First, what is your hardware.
Second, what Linux distribution were you trying to install.
Third, try be as exact as possible. Write the error and some lines before it down and pos them here.

Practically you said nothing in your post.

 

[Tipnmo101]

sorry for the lack of info..... its the new drake.. 7.1... the exact line is " IDE3: BM-DMA at 0xd808-0xd80f, BIOS settings: HDGMA, HDHMA " like i said that makes no sense to me at all... and i don't know where to go from here

damn smilly faces.... its HDG : DMA , HDH : DMA ..... with out spaces of course

 

[pm]

What is your complete system configuration?

 

[Radboy]

Told ya u'd need an IDE CD-ROM, didn't I?

 

[Tipnmo101]

BH6
c2 550@550
128 megs of micron ram
SB x gamer
13.6 gig maxtor
promise ata 66 card
Leadtek 32 meg tnt2
3com isa nic
D-link pci nic
1520 adaptec scsi controller
32x plextor cdrom
4x panisonic cdr

 

[Tipnmo101]

hehe... if i had just listened to you it would have saved me hours of work and it almost didn't work! i put it in booted up.. and nothing.. wouldn't detect it.. almost sh!t my pants.. then i realized the ide cable wasn't pluged in

 

[pm]

which of those drives are SCSI and which are IDE?

My thinking is that IDE3 is the master of the second IDE channel... I think that's right anyway. What drive is the master on the second IDE channel?

 

[Tipnmo101]

its the temp. ide cdrom drive i got to install drake.

edit// and its running off my promise card... i have the onboard ide disabled, if that makes a difference \\edit

 

[pm]

Well, I'm pretty far away from a Linux guru - or even an expert. My Mandrake install went flawlessly once I turned off PNP OS. I have SCSI on my HD's with a Tekram controller and am IDE on my CDROM's (both masters).

My only advice is to swap around the CDROM that you have... put it as the slave of IDE0, swap it around and see if the hanging problem follows it. If so, then... I don't know.

 

[pm]

Ok, my next probably useless bit of advice is to do some research on the Promise card (www.google.com/linux), and try removing it and running off of the onboard IDE.

 

[Tipnmo101]

Well i just removed the ide cdrom.... and same thing.... sense i don't plan on keeping the cdrom in this system (moving to another) i am not going to try any combonations of ide master and slave setups....

 

[Tipnmo101]

bump

 

[Michael]

OK - this is what I would do to install it.

Do not use the promise card (yet). I don't know of Drake 7.1 has ATA66 built in, sometimes it has to be compiled in.

Take the SCSI card out as well.

Connect the IDE HD to the first IDE connector and the IDE CD-ROM to the second one.

Boot from the CD-ROM and install Linux onto the HD.

Reboot (make sure you take the CD-ROM out) and check to see it the instalation worked.

Put the SCSI card and CDR drive in and reboot again. It should be autodetected and the software installed.

Search to see what you have to do to get ATA66 support working.

Move the IDE drive to the ATA66 controller and change the boot device to EXTR in the BIOS.

Michael

 

[oldfart]

Michael has the right idea. I'll be doing the same thing next week. You can get the Promise working, but not until after Linux is installed. Leave the Promise card in, but connect everything strait IDE. Boot off the CD. Do the install, go to the Promise web site, get and install the U66 drivers, then connect it up the the U66 card. Here are a couple of links:
MUO
Linux Newbie

 

[Tipnmo101]

geeze... i would have thought linux would have been more friendly with the promise card... seeing as so many people have them

 

[pm]

Linux becomes "hardware friendly" only after something has been around for quite a while unless the manufacturer is "Linux friendly". In many cases in the past, people have had to reverse-engineer a driver for hardware and this takes a lot of time - especially since it is being done as a hobby.

 

[Tipnmo101]

Well i took out my scsi card and promise card... i tried to boot to linux.. i got past the first problem but ran into a new one

Line 1: request - module [block - major - 33]: Root fs not mounted

Line 2: VFS: Cannout open root device 21:06

Line 3: Kernal panic: VFS: unable to mount rood fs on 21:06

i thought all 3 lines where fairly important.... i belive this has something to do with my hdd... sense when i rebooted to go into windows i got an "instert system disk" and no matter what i tried it wouldn't boot to windows.. so i put the promise card in and here i am.... i had all the bios setting right... not sure y i couldn't get to windows.. prolly should have played with that more... o well in a sec... so now what????

 

[Tipnmo101]

bump

 

[pm]

Once again, I don't really know what is going on. It's saying that it can't mount/access the file system (fs). What do the lines above this say.

I'll say one thing, Tipno, you sure are having a hard time with this install... it's not usually this hard - at least until you get it installed and then have to figure out how to use it.

 

[Tipnmo101]

Everything above it seemed to be pretty positive... didn't loook like it was tyring to say soemthing wasn't working.... but those 3 lines at the very bottem are what looked like to be the problem

 

[HigherGround]

Promise 66 conrollers are compatible with Mandrake 7.1 distro out of the box, but you do have to specify it during the install. At one point during installation, you we'll be asked for additional SCSI adapters, at this point you'll choose IDE controller from the list. That should load the correct module for the controller...as far as Adaptec 1520, it is not even a boot device so even the module fails, it shouldn't cause a kernel to halt.

 

[Tipnmo101]

OK i was never asked for addition scsi adapters.... and what do you mean the 1520 is not even a boot device???

 

[Radboy]

I feel for ya, man.

Have installed Caldera 2.4 & Drake 7. Many painful lessons.

Like PM said, it takes a while for new hardware to get sppt under Linux.

Most ppl say 'Running Linux' 3rd ed is the best book for beginers.

I'm waiting for next kernel (2.4) b4 I attack Linux again.

Driver sppt comes w/ the kernel.

The simpler ur system, the easier it'll be for Linux to install. For this reason, many have a old (Linux runs great on old hardware), spare PC dedicated to/for Linux (not me).

If ur experiencing pain, this is normal. Have you heard of Linuxnewbie.org?

Great folks.

 

[andri]

Well, that "Root FS not found" is rather easy to fix.
Rememer, when you installed Linux it was on /dev/hdh (e.g. seventh device). Now it is primary master on onboard controller - thats /dev/hda.

After the LILO: promt shows up, type "linux root=/dev/hdc$PARTITION". Replace that $PARTITION with the correct number of the root partition (e.g. /dev/hda5).