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And this is why guns are bad. Period.

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Originally posted by: Softballslug
Originally posted by: RSMemphis
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/02/24/snowball.shooting.ap/index.html:
A man whose daughter was hit with a snowball by a group of girls returned to the scene and opened fire with a gun, critically wounding a 10-year-old youngster, police said.
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yes, yes, I know. I have heard it all. Guns don't kill people, people do. I need a gun to defend myself. If *insert name here* had had a gun during the *insert crime here*, the crime would not have happened. What is with you gun lobbyists!!!!! Are you gonna outfit your children with guns next so that they can defend themselves? Is that the next step?
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Brilliant logic.... Except for the fact that the gun was used as a tool just like dynamite, just like a 757 (where have we seen that! ) just like a box cutter ( again, where have we seen that! )
Damn, with your logic we should outlaw all dynamite, 757's and box cutters, get a clue!

As has been said before, put the blame where the F&*#CKING blame lies with the person pulling the F&*#CKING trigger!
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Yep, people like RSMemphis seem to have this fantasy that banning guns will somehow magically make them disappear, and uninvent a 500-600 year old technology. Criminals will have guns, whether you ban them or not. The question here is: Do law abiding citizens deserve the right to an equal playing field when it comes to defending themselves against violent criminals?
 
Originally posted by: Mookow
I'm still, STILL, STILL waiting to hear how banning handguns will decrease the numbers of illegal, fully automatic rifles currently in the USA.
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I dont know, I might just start bumping this thread once a week until I get an answer to the above from the guy who espouses that position.
 
Originally posted by: Softballslug
Originally posted by: RSMemphis
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/02/24/snowball.shooting.ap/index.html:
A man whose daughter was hit with a snowball by a group of girls returned to the scene and opened fire with a gun, critically wounding a 10-year-old youngster, police said.
Click to expand...
yes, yes, I know. I have heard it all. Guns don't kill people, people do. I need a gun to defend myself. If *insert name here* had had a gun during the *insert crime here*, the crime would not have happened. What is with you gun lobbyists!!!!! Are you gonna outfit your children with guns next so that they can defend themselves? Is that the next step?
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Brilliant logic.... Except for the fact that the gun was used as a tool just like dynamite, just like a 757 (where have we seen that! ) just like a box cutter ( again, where have we seen that! )
Damn, with your logic we should outlaw all dynamite, 757's and box cutters, get a clue!

As has been said before, put the blame where the F&*#CKING blame lies with the person pulling the F&*#CKING trigger!
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Nah, that makes too much sense.
 
Originally posted by: RSMemphis
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/02/24/snowball.shooting.ap/index.html:
A man whose daughter was hit with a snowball by a group of girls returned to the scene and opened fire with a gun, critically wounding a 10-year-old youngster, police said.
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yes, yes, I know. I have heard it all. Guns don't kill people, people do. I need a gun to defend myself. If *insert name here* had had a gun during the *insert crime here*, the crime would not have happened.

What is with you gun lobbyists!!!!! Are you gonna outfit your children with guns next so that they can defend themselves? Is that the next step?
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you are the reason this debate continues and will continue forever. Please inform all your other not so smart friends that guns don't kill, people do.


 
You can't have freedom without risk. Read Vernor Vinge's "Ungoverned Land" which contemplates private ownership of nukes. I pretty much agree with him that even nukes would be much less risky in the hands of free, law-abiding people than in the hands of governments. The right to life means the personal responsibility to defend it. If it ever comes to that, how do you intend to defend your life, or your loved ones'? Think on it...
.bh.
ps. The originator of this thread just hasn't been able to throw off his gov't school (where they don't learn much and a lot of what they do learn isn't true) programming yet. I call 'em YAS (young and stupid)!.bh.
:disgust:

...When I look back on all that crap I learned in high school... S&G
 
I read alot of debates on this forum. Religion, abortion, affirmative action... And in all of these debates, I can see some logic in both sides of the argument. But the gun debate, uh uh. I've never been swayed by any arguments from the anti-gun lobby. There is always a good rebuttal for everything brought up by the gun grabbers.

I consider myself a Constitutionalist. I think it's a great document. There's one part of it that I especially like. The shall not be infringed part. Many gun grabbers feel that this amendment is outdated, but they do not realize that at the time of its writing, the colonists had roughly equal firepower to that of the British military. So it is not outdated; it is relevant to whatever time period you find yourself in. Secondly, the wording is quite clear, again the shall not be infringed. Therefore I'm asking the anti-gun people, would you be happy if the 2nd Amendment would be repealed?
 
Originally posted by: Triumph
I read alot of debates on this forum. Religion, abortion, affirmative action... And in all of these debates, I can see some logic in both sides of the argument. But the gun debate, uh uh. I've never been swayed by any arguments from the anti-gun lobby. There is always a good rebuttal for everything brought up by the gun grabbers.

I consider myself a Constitutionalist. I think it's a great document. There's one part of it that I especially like. The shall not be infringed part. Many gun grabbers feel that this amendment is outdated, but they do not realize that at the time of its writing, the colonists had roughly equal firepower to that of the British military. So it is not outdated; it is relevant to whatever time period you find yourself in. Secondly, the wording is quite clear, again the shall not be infringed. Therefore I'm asking the anti-gun people, would you be happy if the 2nd Amendment would be repealed?
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..and if so, would they like the 1st Amendment to get knocked off as well?

Originally posted by: EXman
guns dont kill people MORONS do
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so he threw the bullet?:disgust:
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Sorta..he pulled the trigger.
 
Man, this thread makes me want to go out and by another gun. Just that I already bought a new AR15 last month. Oh, well, guess I will have to get that new AK next month
 
Hey! Lets ban cars and then people couldn't do drive bys or run over their husbands with shiny new mercedes benz automobiles.
 
Without guns, nut cases like that would probably just use a crossbow, knife, sword, etc.

So many things could be used as a weapon. Taking away guns (not that it would be possible to do so) would just make people use other methods. Guns just make it easier for lunatics to lash out.

That would be like saying let's stop using cars because so many people are killed in them/by them every day.

Take away everything that could potentially be dangerous and you'd still have idiots bashing people over the head with rocks or sharpening a stick and throwing it at pedestrians.
 
Don't blame the weapon,blame the lax laws and lame sentencing of criminals.
Where else could you shoot someone and be out on the streets again in 3-5 years or less?
If it was up to me it would be an eye for an eye.
Ask any cop,the justice system is like a revolving door giving the criminals multiple chances to re-offend.
 
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Mookow
I'm still, STILL, STILL waiting to hear how banning handguns will decrease the numbers of illegal, fully automatic rifles currently in the USA.
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I dont know, I might just start bumping this thread once a week until I get an answer to the above from the guy who espouses that position.
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bump
 
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Mookow
I'm still, STILL, STILL waiting to hear how banning handguns will decrease the numbers of illegal, fully automatic rifles currently in the USA.
Click to expand...

I dont know, I might just start bumping this thread once a week until I get an answer to the above from the guy who espouses that position.
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bump
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Been more than a week...
 
doesnt switzerland issue a weapon to every male citizen, yet look at their gun death rates. Any arguement that completely removes responsibility for your actions is missing the point. I own a very common product, most of you have one or more I'm sure, just a basic screwdriver. They should be banned, why, becasue I'm going to kill ever person I see from now on with mine. The guy who created this thread would feel better knowing mine was taken away or banned, personally I would feel better if the person was removed. I can find a multitude of things to use once you ban my screwdriver, will anything I choose be equaly evil? At what point will MY ACTIONS become the problem?

Gun laws don't work, criminals don't follow laws, a law abiding RESPONSIBLE gun owner DOES.
 
Originally posted by: Alistar7
doesnt switzerland issue a weapon to every male citizen, yet look at their gun death rates. Any arguement that completely removes responsibility for your actions is missing the point. I own a very common product, most of you have one or more I'm sure, just a basic screwdriver. They should be banned, why, becasue I'm going to kill ever person I see from now on with mine. The guy who created this thread would feel better knowing mine was taken away or banned, personally I would feel better if the person was removed. I can find a multitude of things to use once you ban my screwdriver, will anything I choose be equaly evil? At what point will MY ACTIONS become the problem?

Gun laws don't work, criminals don't follow laws, a law abiding RESPONSIBLE gun owner DOES.
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Wait, wait, the screaming liberals can't be bothered with FACTS!

<--- no actual political affiliation, 😀
 
I'm going to save myself a whole HELL of alot of time and not even bother reading this thread. The author already made it perfectly clear how stupid and naive he/she is.

I certainly didn't see any "period" though, thats for sure.
 
Originally posted by: RSMemphis
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/02/24/snowball.shooting.ap/index.html:
A man whose daughter was hit with a snowball by a group of girls returned to the scene and opened fire with a gun, critically wounding a 10-year-old youngster, police said.
Click to expand...

yes, yes, I know. I have heard it all. Guns don't kill people, people do. I need a gun to defend myself. If *insert name here* had had a gun during the *insert crime here*, the crime would not have happened.

What is with you gun lobbyists!!!!! Are you gonna outfit your children with guns next so that they can defend themselves? Is that the next step?
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This is a long thread, and I'm not going to read it, and I'm sure it's all been said anyways, but I have to say this.

I am not a "gun nut". I don't own a gun, I don't want to own a gun, I've never even fired a gun. I don't think people need guns. I think anyone who says otherwise is only making an excuse because they want to have a gun.

That being said, these are not arguments against guns. Like you said, guns do not kill people, people do. This tragedy was not the result of a gun, it was the result of a stupid moron who obviously needs a little help. He could have used a car or a knife or any number of things. If he had done that, it would have been all about this psycho. But instead he used a gun, and suddenly guns are evil. If that isn't a double standard, I don't know what is.

An object can't be good or evil. Only the person who uses it. Many of the freedoms of the people all through history have been taken away because someone used them for evil. But what people don't realize is that these evil people will just find other ways to be evil. Think of it this way, if you could get rid of guns or murderers, who would you get rid of? I hope you said murderers. Guns are just a tool, it's the people who misuse them that are the true problem.
 
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Mookow
I'm still, STILL, STILL waiting to hear how banning handguns will decrease the numbers of illegal, fully automatic rifles currently in the USA.
Click to expand...

I dont know, I might just start bumping this thread once a week until I get an answer to the above from the guy who espouses that position.
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bump
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Been more than a week...
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hahahaha
 
there are people in this country who NEED guns. Take a drive through some o fthe Appalachian areas. Alot of those DEPEND on the food hunting provides to live on throughout the year. We have the RIGHT to own a gun if we choose, but no one will suggest that right extends to the point of not being accountable to the law.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Mookow
I'm still, STILL, STILL waiting to hear how banning handguns will decrease the numbers of illegal, fully automatic rifles currently in the USA.
Click to expand...

I dont know, I might just start bumping this thread once a week until I get an answer to the above from the guy who espouses that position.
Click to expand...

bump
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Been more than a week...
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hahahaha
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Hey, all I'm asking is for someone to quit playing de ping pong
 
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