And this is why a large thin aluminum phone is a really terrible idea - *Bend-Gate*

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Not that a case is a bad idea anyway, I'm not convinced that a case would do much to stop the phone bending.

The only way I could see that working is if the case is extremely rigid or extremely thick and pliable.

Most cases are to stop impact damage or surface abrasion.

A case that has some rigidness can reinforce the iPhone 6 plus enough that it vastly reduces chance of bending. The case needs to be reasonably rigid to offer protection against bending as shown in the video below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUqyu2ZNo5o

The video also offers links to the case in amazon.com in the description for the iPhone 6 plus owners in this thread.



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[QueBert]

and the iPhone 6 is one of the worst....if not the worst in the test. So.....
No one is saying iPhone 6 is as bendable as 6+. If that's what you are implying.

Still not as bad as my HTC One, which had the lowest psi bend point in Consumer Reports lab testing. Maybe I should start a fuss and bitch to HTC? I WANT MY 2 YEAR OLD PHONE REPLACED!!!

 

[rh71]

this is a non issue, watch the video & look at his hands when the phone starts to bend. They're trembling and his fingers are turning bright ass red. He's literally trying with all his might to bend it. I know he's probably not very strong, but he's exerting all the force he can to make this happen. If I exerted that kind of force on my phone it would probably break in half.

Yeah I'm late to this party, but I had to respond to this. You obviously didn't see the other video with the bending of the Note 3. His fingers turned an even brighter ass red for that and it came out fine.

 

[QueBert]

Yeah I'm late to this party, but I had to respond to this. You obviously didn't see the other video with the bending of the Note 3. His fingers turned an even brighter ass red for that and it came out fine.

The point of the videos is, he had to apply an ungodly amount of pressure to make it bend. Normal use it won't bend, there are 16 reported cases last time I checked, 10 million phones sold. This is a non issue to a point it shouldn't even be a topic. Is the Note 3 stronger? Sure is, but neither are bendable under normal circumstances. 16 reported bent phones out of 10 million doesn't make for a good "easy to bend" case if you ask me *shrug* I'm poor, but maybe I'll start a Kickstart campaign where I raise money so I get all the phones and make video proving to the world that if you try hard enough you can break any phone. So far we have a very few reported cases with no facts to back them up, and a guy who made a youtube video where he was trying to hulk smash the phone to prove the phone's bendable. On the flip we have 3rd party professional lab testing that's telling us this isn't worth worrying about.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Yeah I'm late to this party, but I had to respond to this. You obviously didn't see the other video with the bending of the Note 3. His fingers turned an even brighter ass red for that and it came out fine.

I would have said that I could probably break any smartphone in half if I really tried. Not so sure after watching that video. I definitely believe he was really trying as hard as he could to bend it. I still think this is largely a non-issue for most users. It's something that all phone 6+ users should be aware of though.

 

[rh71]

The point of the videos is, he had to apply an ungodly amount of pressure to make it bend. Normal use it won't bend, there are 16 reported cases last time I checked, 10 million phones sold. This is a non issue to a point it shouldn't even be a topic. Is the Note 3 stronger? Sure is, but neither are bendable under normal circumstances. 16 reported bent phones out of 10 million doesn't make for a good "easy to bend" case if you ask me *shrug* I'm poor, but maybe I'll start a Kickstart campaign where I raise money so I get all the phones and make video proving to the world that if you try hard enough you can break any phone. So far we have a very few reported cases with no facts to back them up, and a guy who made a youtube video where he was trying to hulk smash the phone to prove the phone's bendable. On the flip we have 3rd party professional lab testing that's telling us this isn't worth worrying about.

So basically it's a non-issue because of another reason - other than the one you originally posted about. Got it.

And 10 million phones sold is the same as 10 million people who have the 6+ in their hands already?

Did 16 people who have it also apply an _ungodly_ amount of pressure to a device they paid a hefty sum to be the first owners of? 1 or 2 is already too many IMO.

 

[QueBert]

So basically it's a non-issue because of another reason - other than the one you originally posted about. Got it.

And 10 million phones sold is the same as 10 million people who have the 6+ in their hands already?

No, but even if half of the 10 million were online orders that aren't in the hands of the owner yet. Less than 2 dozen reported cases out of even 5 million phones is impressive. This story reminds me of the iPhone that exploded in the girls pocket at school and all of a sudden iPhones were dangerous and fire hazards. It's possible to bend an aluminum phone? you don't say! That's not news worthy.

 

[dawheat]

No, but even if half of the 10 million were online orders that aren't in the hands of the owner yet. Less than 2 dozen reported cases out of even 5 million phones is impressive. This story reminds me of the iPhone that exploded in the girls pocket at school and all of a sudden iPhones were dangerous and fire hazards. It's possible to bend an aluminum phone? you don't say! That's not news worthy.

You seem far to quick to sweep this under the rug. I think it's pretty clear there's a specific point in the 6 Plus that has a heightened risk of deformation. Unlike the fire case, this is something that can replicated somewhat at will.

Out of the couple million 6 Pluses sold (I think most tracking sites have it 6-8:1 in sales for the 6 vs 6 Plus), there have only been a handful of reported cases in the first week of use. So based on that, I do agree it's being blown out of proportion right now, but I think its equally fair to have non-trivial questions about the long term impact and whether in a year from now, seeing slightly bent 6 Pluses will not be that uncommon.

 

[purbeast0]

http://i.imgur.com/bHfGPpB.jpg

 

[RaulF]

http://i.imgur.com/bHfGPpB.jpg

:biggrin:

That's pretty good.

 

[WelshBloke]

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-cuts-off-German-publication-for-showing-bendgate-video_id61237

Stay classy Apple.

 

[gorcorps]

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-cuts-off-German-publication-for-showing-bendgate-video_id61237

Stay classy Apple.

That almost makes it sound like the German branch acted independently, and not something that Apple as a company would ever do... at least that's what I'd say if I was CEO :biggrin:

 

[dawheat]

Yeah this is 100% a local branch acting outside of their bounds. Still stupid.

Frankly what I'd like is a objective, measured test that focuses specially on the weak point. Tests that stress the entire phone aren't that valuable. There's a weak point, so exert force specifically on that point and show how much force it takes to deform.

 

[gorcorps]

Yeah this is 100% a local branch acting outside of their bounds. Still stupid.

Frankly what I'd like is a objective, measured test that focuses specially on the weak point. Tests that stress the entire phone aren't that valuable. There's a weak point, so exert force specifically on that point and show how much force it takes to deform.

None of these tests really replicate the environment though, which is pressed against a leg (a soft curved surface) inside a pocket. Somebody needs to rig up a system that mimics what actual use will be. Isolating force at the weak point doesn't tell us much of anything when in real-world use your leg isn't going to form a wedge concentrated on that weak point.

 

[Phokus]

lol

 

[HN]

 

[s44]

Hah. Nice touch that it's a Samsung flipphone.

 

[openwheel]

This is hilarious. Ironic and satirical.

 

[WelshBloke]

This is hilarious. Ironic and satirical.

That's actually me playing with my kids after a tough shift at work.

 

[openwheel]

There used to be an iPhone 5 commercial making fun of phones with larger than 4" screen. If I remember correctly, it claimed the iPhone 5 as the perfect size.

 

[purbeast0]

There used to be an iPhone 5 commercial making fun of phones with larger than 4" screen. If I remember correctly, it claimed the iPhone 5 as the perfect size.

as an owner of an ip6 (after returning the ip6+ because it was way too big), i'd still say that the ip5 may be the perfect size. i like the ip6 size and the screen, but the ip5 is still more comfortable to use for me and i like the smaller size of it. it's still not as comfortable to use with 1 hand like the ip5 was. but this still may be just that i'm not fully used to it after 2 weeks with it.

 

[blankslate]

i'd still say that the ip5 may be the perfect size.

Maybe but even if smartphone is someone awkward to handle with one hand at times it seems a lot of people are willing to accept the trade off of having to use two hands at times in exchange for screens that are about 5".

The Note 3, 4 may be a bit too large, but I haven't spent much time with a smartphone with a larger than 5" screen.

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[openwheel]

so let me get it straight, the iPhone 5S is the perfect size. However, since there is a new(er) iPhone, you got to have the new one instead. Even though there is no hardware/software upgrade from any practical point of view.

 

[openwheel]

Maybe but even if smartphone is someone awkward to handle with one hand at times it seems a lot of people are willing to accept the trade off of having to use two hands at times in exchange for screens that are about 5".

The Note 3, 4 may be a bit too large, but I haven't spent much time with a smartphone with a larger than 5" screen.

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Oh so now suddenly it is not "all about one hand use" anymore.

 

[Commodus]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I'd rather have a company contradict itself than maintain a "foolish consistency" (as Emerson put it) that runs a product into the ground.

BlackBerry, Microsoft, Nokia and Palm all lost to Apple (and eventually, Google) because they had the attitude that what they were already doing was perfect, and that all those users leaving for the iPhone/Android would eventually come crawling back. It wasn't until they were facing oblivion that they launched Hail Mary plays, and by then it was too late. Apple is both smart enough to tell where the wind is blowing (documents published in its lawsuits reveal that it knew in 2013, if not earlier) and fortunate enough to make that change while it's still very successful.