MongGrel
Lifer
- Dec 3, 2013
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She has never had the need to hold one prior to now. Would just be ammunition against her.
As far as impromptu questions, BENGHAZI !!!!
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She has never had the need to hold one prior to now. Would just be ammunition against her.
As far as impromptu questions, BENGHAZI !!!!
Yeah, wouldn't want to put anything out there that can be shoved up on Politifact. At the end of the day this whole campaign, like every other politician's campaign, was a carefully manicured and curated show.
Trump, for better or worse, is going to be a bull in the china shop of that curated show.
Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
- Feb 16, 2005
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meh, more like a stumbling drunk in a china shop, he's all flash, no substance. marked for later because
We'll see.
Who is the one mewling? We only see one side of this. Trump is brow beating her in public to get what he wants and what he wants appears to be the opposite of what you guys are implying.
The expectation is that it will be a bull in a china shop. What if it turns out that Trump is very reasonable and polite. And if he isn't why do you dismiss Clinton as a very capable adversary. You are all bull in a china shop yourself and seemingly incapable of self examination. Does it not occur to you that your assumptions and predictions may turn out to be just a bunch of nonsense just like so many other people's? Stop running around waving your dick. Lets go sing at the campfire. Have you heard the story of the mechanical fish and the wooden horse?
kage69
Lifer
- Jul 17, 2003
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I'm not sure what I find more amusing - your detachment from reality, or the desperation you exhibit trying to maintain it. Drumpf can't debate at all, if you think he can than you have a woeful grasp on what the term means. Sanders would chew him up like a fat kid on pizza, wouldn't even require much effort. Hillary will need effort, but the outcome will be the same simply because your orange boy is incredibly ignorant and apathetic on the real issues. All his past performances spelled this out for you, but with all that orange KoolAid in your system he could probably pull out his tiny pecker piss in your face and you'd likely lap it up with a smile.
I think conservative women are going to have a big surprise for your kind come November. And my lawnchair and popcorn are ready.
I think it's cute you have a friend though LS. Your posts from the last year or so had me thinking quite the opposite. :thumbsup:
HamburgerBoy
Lifer
- Apr 12, 2004
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The few times Trump got really grilled on policy during the RNC debates, he was made a fool of. He's only going to do worse here.
BonzaiDuck
Lifer
- Jun 30, 2004
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Breitbart's legacy depends on a large number of the public and its readers with either a cerebral deficit, naïve understanding of Truth and Distortion, or just a lack of attention to what goes on in what they read and what they see. I'll be the first to say I was among those sleep-walking news-zombies for 30 or 40 years of my adult life.
Whatever went on between Clinton supporters, Wasserman's minions and some possible manipulation is something you'd expect, since the situation is not part of any known pattern of competition: Sanders is an "Independent" running in the Democratic Primary.
To win elections, one needs an organization. To have an effective organization, it must be well-established. And it is well-established with State Democratic Central Committees coordinating with the National Committee, and the County Central Committees and small PACs coordinating with both the state and national organizations. The Superdelegate phenomenon is not new.
So whatever the misinformation and propaganda efforts of a Republican Party, network of PACs or superPacs, right-wing pundits etc., you can see that the Democratic debates were more a discussion of "issues" than the GOP smear-fests.
The GOP -- if there's a discussion at all -- only admit their pet problems: Muslims, Mexicans, strong arms in the middle east. Most of the discussions dealing with domestic issues were subordinated, while paying various kinds of lip-service to the issues.
And, easy as I might be in applying this standard to the Dems, the GOP debates stray further from it: these aren't rigorous debates once practiced in earlier history or different forums. In fact, presidential debates only became an institutions with the election of 1960, as I understand.
If we want to see "real" debates that even move toward that standard (and still falling short), it may be in the face-offs between Trumpty-Dumpty and Hilly.
Gotta run -- had some other thoughts but what-the-hey-gotta-run.
Whatever went on between Clinton supporters, Wasserman's minions and some possible manipulation is something you'd expect, since the situation is not part of any known pattern of competition: Sanders is an "Independent" running in the Democratic Primary.
To win elections, one needs an organization. To have an effective organization, it must be well-established. And it is well-established with State Democratic Central Committees coordinating with the National Committee, and the County Central Committees and small PACs coordinating with both the state and national organizations. The Superdelegate phenomenon is not new.
So whatever the misinformation and propaganda efforts of a Republican Party, network of PACs or superPacs, right-wing pundits etc., you can see that the Democratic debates were more a discussion of "issues" than the GOP smear-fests.
The GOP -- if there's a discussion at all -- only admit their pet problems: Muslims, Mexicans, strong arms in the middle east. Most of the discussions dealing with domestic issues were subordinated, while paying various kinds of lip-service to the issues.
And, easy as I might be in applying this standard to the Dems, the GOP debates stray further from it: these aren't rigorous debates once practiced in earlier history or different forums. In fact, presidential debates only became an institutions with the election of 1960, as I understand.
If we want to see "real" debates that even move toward that standard (and still falling short), it may be in the face-offs between Trumpty-Dumpty and Hilly.
Gotta run -- had some other thoughts but what-the-hey-gotta-run.
Trump's mewling, obviously. The Clinton campaign is silent. WTF does he want, other than to shoot off his mouth while claiming victimhood?
- Oct 9, 1999
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I think the need to underestimate the capacities of Trump among liberals is mirrored by a similar dismissal of the capacity of Clinton. She has had a life of practice dealing with the slurs and slams of testosterone driven idiots and I for one would not write off her chances. The question I have is will she dare to pants him and show the world his tiny dick and hairless balls. That's what I would do because that is what the mask he wears is there to hide.
1prophet
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- Aug 17, 2005
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And yet He is the one Here not those who made a fool of him,
do you really want to see worse?
Pens1566
Lifer
- Oct 11, 2005
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Yep, it's Clinton that's afraid of some verbal sparring. Sure. The one person running for president that spent 11 hours going toe to toe with a very hostile congressional committee over the BENGHAZI!!!!!!! hearings.
The cognitive dissonance on this one is YUGE.
The cognitive dissonance on this one is YUGE.
Grooveriding
Diamond Member
- Dec 25, 2008
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He would be decimated, and worse for him, it would cost him some of that nutjob base he has in those insecure men whose worst fear is a strongman banging their wife and getting 'cucked'. Just imagine it, poor Trump up there getting grilled and taken to task on his lies, flip flops, inexperience, lack of intelligence.. by a woman. Those insecure male supporters would have a meltdown.
Trump is in big trouble when those debates roll around. He's told so many lies, flip flopped on so many issues and lacks experience and intelligence that he's going to be a real easy target. This will not be like running for the nomination of the Republican party, where he can just make silly faces, throw his hands around and call everyone names. That only works on that base, he's not going to win over the people who will not vote for him right now with that vapid nonsense.
He'll probably bring up conspiracy theories and personal attacks against her. But when it comes to the real issues, which will be unavoidable for him in these debates, he'll be decimated. Crazy talk like banning abortions and punishing woman who have them, banning a religious group, leaving NATO. He doesn't even understand these issues, much less have a footing to defend his crazy talk on them.
It's going to be gold entertainment. This whole shit show has been hilarious and the likely culmination of seeing this imbecile trying to make a concession speech when he loses... I doubt he'll be able to do it. He's going to sue someone and claim it was all rigged. As much as I pity everyone living there under the horrific possibility, however slim, of having this moron be their country's leader - it has been the best entertainment. When you see him being interviewed or talking and it hits home just how fucking idiotic and out of his league he is for what he's running for, it's comedic gold. He's a complete embarrassment, it's going to take decades to live down the joke.
Trump is in big trouble when those debates roll around. He's told so many lies, flip flopped on so many issues and lacks experience and intelligence that he's going to be a real easy target. This will not be like running for the nomination of the Republican party, where he can just make silly faces, throw his hands around and call everyone names. That only works on that base, he's not going to win over the people who will not vote for him right now with that vapid nonsense.
He'll probably bring up conspiracy theories and personal attacks against her. But when it comes to the real issues, which will be unavoidable for him in these debates, he'll be decimated. Crazy talk like banning abortions and punishing woman who have them, banning a religious group, leaving NATO. He doesn't even understand these issues, much less have a footing to defend his crazy talk on them.
It's going to be gold entertainment. This whole shit show has been hilarious and the likely culmination of seeing this imbecile trying to make a concession speech when he loses... I doubt he'll be able to do it. He's going to sue someone and claim it was all rigged. As much as I pity everyone living there under the horrific possibility, however slim, of having this moron be their country's leader - it has been the best entertainment. When you see him being interviewed or talking and it hits home just how fucking idiotic and out of his league he is for what he's running for, it's comedic gold. He's a complete embarrassment, it's going to take decades to live down the joke.
I don't underestimate Trump at all. He's easily the greatest & most astounding con artist of his generation.
Unless I'm badly mistaken most Americans see it the same way because that's really the way it is. Just because we have pigeons among us doesn't mean most of us are pigeons.
Thump553
Lifer
- Jun 2, 2000
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Quoting from the linked article:
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The Commission on Presidential Debates, which is reportedly nonpartisan, issued a statement responding to Trump’s tweet on Saturday, saying the debates had been scheduled nearly a year ago, explaining, it “announced the number, dates and sites for the 2016 general election debates in September 2015.”
“The CPD did not consult with any political parties or campaigns in making these decisions,” the organization declared.
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Even assuming the debates do conflict with major NFL games (I don't know/don't care) wouldn't this hurt both candidates equally by reducing viewership? Also, it's not like the audience votes at the end of the debate. Finally in this day of youtube and 24 news commentary channels even someone without a dvr can easily time shift the debates.
Other than bitching for bitching sake I honestly don't see the point Trump is trying to make.
I can just see a President Trump whining because ISIS/NK/etc are cheating by not doing things his way.
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The Commission on Presidential Debates, which is reportedly nonpartisan, issued a statement responding to Trump’s tweet on Saturday, saying the debates had been scheduled nearly a year ago, explaining, it “announced the number, dates and sites for the 2016 general election debates in September 2015.”
“The CPD did not consult with any political parties or campaigns in making these decisions,” the organization declared.
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Even assuming the debates do conflict with major NFL games (I don't know/don't care) wouldn't this hurt both candidates equally by reducing viewership? Also, it's not like the audience votes at the end of the debate. Finally in this day of youtube and 24 news commentary channels even someone without a dvr can easily time shift the debates.
Other than bitching for bitching sake I honestly don't see the point Trump is trying to make.
I can just see a President Trump whining because ISIS/NK/etc are cheating by not doing things his way.
shady28
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- Apr 11, 2004
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Facts :
Hillary hasn't even had a press conference in ~240 days as of this posting.
Trump just had a press conference Wednesday.
DNC intentionally scheduled Sanders debates at odd times to depress viewership.
Dallas News :
Donald Trump is right: It's time for Hillary Clinton to confront the press, and be confronted
Washington Times :
Hillary Clinton yet to hold single press conference in 2016
Freebeacon :
Fact Check on Trumps Claim Clinton Hasnt Held Press Conference in 235 Days
Washington Post :
Clinton campaign manager on press conference absence: Were working on her schedule on a rolling basis
Hillary hasn't even had a press conference in ~240 days as of this posting.
Trump just had a press conference Wednesday.
DNC intentionally scheduled Sanders debates at odd times to depress viewership.
Dallas News :
Donald Trump is right: It's time for Hillary Clinton to confront the press, and be confronted
Washington Times :
Hillary Clinton yet to hold single press conference in 2016
Freebeacon :
Fact Check on Trumps Claim Clinton Hasnt Held Press Conference in 235 Days
Washington Post :
Clinton campaign manager on press conference absence: Were working on her schedule on a rolling basis
Pens1566
Lifer
- Oct 11, 2005
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What does any of that have to do with the debates?
Let me answer that for you- nothing.
shady28
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Excellent point about the debate schedule.
The topic has shifted to how trump will be "afraid" or how Hillary will "destroy" Trump in a debate.
That falls on its face when you consider Hillary is afraid to so much as talk to the press.
Busted for outright lying over a little shitstorm he started. His supporters won't be swayed, however. Trump could shoot somebody, right?
Trump has a point about not being able to compete with football. He'll likely loose viewership among his strongest demographic- white middle aged male knuckle draggers. Lots of 'em would rather watch football, I'm sure.
1prophet
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- Aug 17, 2005
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Think of it as debate training,
It keeps you sharp and on your toes, especially when some reporter throws a curve ball at you.
disappoint
Lifer
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Hey hey hey. My BMW M3 is a touch of class. Along with my constant jabs about your mom. I'm old school. Old school like alchemy, or 17 and still in the 8th grade kind of old school. I don't expect you to understand.
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