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And people say you can't beat the big names' budget systems...

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archcommus

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Everyone always says how, if you want a cheapo system, usually the big names really will offer the better deal. For a computer, monitor, speakers, keyboard, and mouse, yes. For a computer only, not so. I just put a VERY cheap system together on Newegg, including Windows, came to $345. That's not TOO much more than a very very cheap one from Dell or HP or eMachines when no specials are going on. And probably better parts, too.
 
256 memory, Celeron D 2.26 GHz, some cheapo Foxconn mobo with integrated video, 300W Rosewill PSU, 80 GB Samsung HDD, some cheapo DVD burner, cheapo case, XP Home OEM. Basically the same as the cheapest from eMachines.
 
The problem with this is that those are not the greatest components. You would do well to spend another 100-200 and get some higher quality components that will last longer. I stress this at work - I build and sell systems and they are more pricey than off the shelf stuff, but then I use stuff like Intel motherboards, crucial RAM and Antec cases, etc. Good name brand stuff that will last. Not saying that stuff will break for sure but it's always best to spend a bit more.

I guess I don't fit in well with our current disposable society...if I buy something I spend the extra to buy a good and trusted brand and know it will last and be backed up by a good company. This has not failed me yet.
 
I completely agree, but cheap eMachines and Dells use cheap parts, as well. I was just trying to see how closely I could match the price.
 
only reason i would build a budget system like that because i know what im getting and i dont have to worry about propriety items getting in the way of a future upgrade.
 
$299 emachine with 17" CRT, amd sempron 3000+,256ddr,80gb hd, dvd/cdrw, keyboard,mouse and speakers. (has 8x agp slot)

i win.

or $450 17" CRT, athlon 64 3200+, 512mb ddr, 160gb hd, dvdrw, keyboard, mouse, speakers. (has pci-e slot)
 
Originally posted by: shoRunner
$299 emachine with 17" CRT, amd sempron 3000+,256ddr,80gb hd, dvd/cdrw, keyboard,mouse and speakers. (has 8x agp slot)

i win.
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Until the capacitors on the mainboard blow up one year later.
 
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: shoRunner
$299 emachine with 17" CRT, amd sempron 3000+,256ddr,80gb hd, dvd/cdrw, keyboard,mouse and speakers. (has 8x agp slot)

i win.
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Until the capacitors on the mainboard blow up one year later.
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the board is just as good as a foxconn the OP used.
 
u know, a single AMD X2 4800 will cost the same as that computer u mentioned with the crappy celeron only good for internet surfing
 
Originally posted by: wasserkool
u know, a single AMD X2 4800 will cost the same as that computer u mentioned with the crappy celeron only good for internet surfing
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????

(winnar for random post of the night.)
 
Originally posted by: shoRunner
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: shoRunner
$299 emachine with 17" CRT, amd sempron 3000+,256ddr,80gb hd, dvd/cdrw, keyboard,mouse and speakers. (has 8x agp slot)

i win.
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Until the capacitors on the mainboard blow up one year later.
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the board is just as good as a foxconn the OP used.
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If you knew how many emachines I have seen come into my store with blown capacitors on the mainboard.....stacks of them =/
 
and this could not be caused by a surge? i am by no means touting emachines as the pinnacle of computer reliability, just simply that they are no worse than any other OEM. i find that people who only buy dell or hp or what ever random OEM are dumb, uniformed and annoying.
 
most of them are emachines are because the person who bought them dont know jack about computers and were attracted to the price, so what shorunner said, its possibly from mostly surges, but then again i still dont like emachines.
 
oh crap..sorry OP....i thought this thread means a cheapo gaming system...no offense..please forgive

I concur..big names usually have a very good value and budget system! I've used a compaq desktop for a few years and I can atest to their quality and good support when it comes to hardware problem (they just fedex the part to your house and you fix it, fedex the broken part back)
 
Originally posted by: wasserkool
oh crap..sorry OP....i thought this thread means a cheapo gaming system...no offense..please forgive

I concur..big names usually have a very good value and budget system! I've used a compaq desktop for a few years and I can atest to their quality and good support when it comes to hardware problem (they just fedex the part to your house and you fix it, fedex the broken part back)
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yet how realistic is it for your average(or below average) computer user to fix it themselves. this is nice for more advanced users but for people who don't know the difference between a modem, cpu, hard drive, and computer the task can be next to impossible.
 
I tell people that don't know a thing about computers, to buy the big name brands. They get tech support and a decent warrenty. Plus they are often loaded with free software that you wouldn't get otherwise.
 
Originally posted by: archcommus
I completely agree, but cheap eMachines and Dells use cheap parts, as well. I was just trying to see how closely I could match the price.
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Remember that 200 or 300 buck system dell advertised a couple weeks back? I found out it had a regular Celeron. It's not even a D. I mean geez you coudn't really do much of anything with that.
 
Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: archcommus
I completely agree, but cheap eMachines and Dells use cheap parts, as well. I was just trying to see how closely I could match the price.
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Remember that 200 or 300 buck system dell advertised a couple weeks back? I found out it had a regular Celeron. It's not even a D. I mean geez you coudn't really do much of anything with that.
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A lot of people don't need to do much with their computers. A Celeron cpu and integrated gfx are good enough for better than 1\2 of all computer users I would guess. For every enthusiast that needs a highend system there's probably 200 secretaries that could get by with a P2 or P3.

It's a shame though when people don't do there homework though and buy on price alone. After getting the computer home they find out that little Johnny can't play games on it, and rendering home dvds brings the computer to it's knees.
 
The big names are probably tops when it comes to cheapies, but IMO if you spend less than $1000 to assemble a complete computer, something is wrong. Quality components for a decent mid-range system will run at least a grand.
 
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