And I thought I spent too much on beer

[QueBert]

A 30 second search found:

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/...raft-brewers-concerned-over-new-a-b-nbev.html

A new distributors incentive program introduced by Anheuser-Busch InBev last month has craft brewers worried that it could squeeze them off the shelves.

http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...alysis-anheuser-busch-inbev-sa-incentive.aspx

Anheuser-Busch InBev (NYSE:BUD) offered incentives to distributors to be virtually exclusive to its brands,


http://www.wsj.com/articles/craft-brewers-take-issue-with-ab-inbev-distribution-plan-1449227668

Anheuser-Busch InBev NV’s new plan to reverse declining volumes in the U.S.—by rewarding distributors who focus on brands like Budweiser and Bud Light—is raising alarm among craft brewers who worry it will make it harder to get shelf space for their IPAs and porters.

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/12/big-beer-wants-take-away-your-craft-beer
At least one distributor has dropped a craft brewer as a result of the incentive program. Deschutes Brewery President Michael Lalonde said Grey Eagle Distributing of St. Louis last week decided it will drop the Oregon brewery behind Mirror Pond Pale Ale because it "had to make a choice to go with the incentive program or stay with craft."


So either you choose to ignore the facts or your just another one of the millennials who only care about what they want and don't care how that happens so long as they can get their beer without to much trouble. How about the people that love Deschutes brews, because of InBevs "incentives" they are now in the the exact same position you lamented being in earlier. Having to drive and call around to find a beer that was, before the bribe, just down the street. The narrow view of; as long as I have what I want how bad can it be, is a sad one. Look around at the impact this will have on smaller breweries, its not good. Unless you wold prefer all telecommunications go back under one Bell corporation.

Again, Coke gives stores incentives to not stock as much Pepsi product. Hershey gives incentives to not stock as much Mars candy products. Monster wants all the space Rockstar takes up. This is how business works, inDev's doing nothing out of the blue here. And like inDev or not, craft beers are now easier to find as a whole. I deal with craft beers and selling them for a living. The store around the corner from me sells Fresh Squeezed IPA from Dechutes. They didn't carry a single craft beer aside from Arrogant Bastard for ages until Bud got them to carry Goose IPA a few years ago. Since then they've expanded.

Store owners have a choice to take the incentives or not, inDev isn't saying to anyone if they carry Dechutes they can't carry Bud products. They didn't ask us to get rid of shit to carry Elysian, in fact they brought in a totally new cooler because I said we weren't going to get rid of shit. It's the store owners who don't stand their grounds fault.

 

[KMFJD]

I don't drink much anymore but I had a westmalle triple the other day and it was amazing.... 375 dominican pesos though I could have had 4 presidentes for that...

 

[zinfamous]

I don't drink much anymore but I had a westmalle triple the other day and it was amazing.... 375 dominican pesos though I could have had 4 presidentes for that...

That Westmalle is ~ 11% abv, iirc. what is presidente--4.8%? You got a deal.

 

[SNC]

in fact they brought in a totally new cooler because I said we weren't going to get rid of shit. It's the store owners who don't stand their grounds fault.

So your an end seller not a distributor, so you really don't know what goes on a level up, and I'm not sure why your defending them. They are not offering end sellers the "incentive" not to carry other beers, its the guys that sell to you getting pressured to kill shelf space. And you really need to stop calling InBev breweries craft, as they are no longer.

 

[QueBert]

So your an end seller not a distributor, so you really don't know what goes on a level up, and I'm not sure why your defending them. They are not offering end sellers the "incentive" not to carry other beers, its the guys that sell to you getting pressured to kill shelf space. And you really need to stop calling InBev breweries craft, as they are no longer.

Not defending them, but it's laughable to think they're targeting craft breweries. They target all competition, as all companies do. Why do you think restaurants offer Coke or Pepsi but never both? Bud has offered me all sorts of shit for extra shelf space, every thing I sale comes from a company that at one point or another has offered me some sort of kick back for more shelve space or better positioning. I don't know about the rest of the country, but in So Cal bud does their own distro'ing. Coors & Miller products are distroed by Gate City. And your right, our sale rep is getting pressured to get more shelve space, but ultimately inBev doesn't care if we get rid of our El Segundo craft beers or a Pepsi product for them to get it. Actually 3 months ago we gave them shelve space, we nixed 2 rows of Arizona tea products, and they were fine with that. Does that mean they want to kill Arizona tea products too? I'm sure they would have preferred we nixed a row of Coors products. That's kind of a no shit!? statement though. Sorta like saying Pepsi would rather we get rid of RC than get rid of beer to give them more space. I don't know any business who wants to share space with a competitor. If they do exist, I wouldn't expect them to stay in business long.

Is inBev evil? no more than any other world wide company. I'm sipping on a Sofie from Goose Island right now, since they still brew it themselves, sorry it's a craft beer. At least to me *shrug*

 

[EvilYoda]

Had a few beers nights while I was in NYC but now that I've been in Taiwan for a few days, it seems strange not having had a drop of beer in 5 days. My friends and I have quite the backup to get through once I get back home!

I'm wondering if there would be enough interest in starting a private ATOT beer trade FB group...I've only traded a few times as I like to keep it mostly to what my friends and I can get amongst ourselves but it wouldn't hurt to have some like-minded people in different regions. Being in Michigan, there's a lot that trades well.

 

[nakedfrog]

I hope I see some of this soon.

 

[zinfamous]

I hope I see some of this soon.

It's pretty standard at most Trader Joe's...at least the west coast Trader Joes. But TD is generally a CA-based product distributor wherever they are.

The Cappuccino stout is OK, but it isn't super special. It can be a decent value, though. I'm not a big Lagunitas fan, anyway. Every single one of their recipes is some variation of an IPA, whether or not it is stated on the label. It is going to be excessively hopped no matter the style, which to me always meant zero creativity and the need to mask shitty brewing.

 

[gorb]

I got it at costco for cheap. It wasn't bad, but not nearly as good as most of the other stouts I've been drinking.

 

[nakedfrog]

It's pretty standard at most Trader Joe's...at least the west coast Trader Joes. But TD is generally a CA-based product distributor wherever they are.

The Cappuccino stout is OK, but it isn't super special. It can be a decent value, though. I'm not a big Lagunitas fan, anyway. Every single one of their recipes is some variation of an IPA, whether or not it is stated on the label. It is going to be excessively hopped no matter the style, which to me always meant zero creativity and the need to mask shitty brewing.

So noted, I don't get out to that part of town often, but may be there this week. The Whole Foods a few blocks away oddly has a better beer selection, one of only two places here I've gotten any of the Stone Stochasticity project stuff.
I do like IPAs, but I seem to recall being pretty "meh" at the Lagunitas stuff I've had. But I do so love cappuccino/espresso/coffee.

I got it at costco for cheap. It wasn't bad, but not nearly as good as most of the other stouts I've been drinking.

Well. I guess we'll see :lol:

 

[gorb]

 

[JasonCoder]

I'm wondering if there would be enough interest in starting a private ATOT beer trade FB group...I've only traded a few times as I like to keep it mostly to what my friends and I can get amongst ourselves but it wouldn't hurt to have some like-minded people in different regions. Being in Michigan, there's a lot that trades well.

I would really be up for this. Although I'm in OH so not sure there's a lot I can get that you can't already. Perhaps some really limited distribution brews or growlers.

I've sample some limited runs that I really miss and can't get in OH... parrish brewing in LA has a canebrake beer that is sublime. Any cajuns wanna do a trade def look me up

 

[gorb]

 

[gorb]

 

[gorb]

Had this the other day:

Drinking this now

 

[gorb]

 

[gorb]

 

[rockyct]

Have you tried the Alesmith Mexican Speedway Stout yet? http://www.westcoastersd.com/2016/05/06/beer-of-the-week-alesmith-mexican-speedway-stout/

I bought a couple bottles but I haven't picked them up yet. I do love me some Grand Cru as well though.

 

[gorb]

I have not. It looks good and also super limited

I have a bottle of the regular speedway stout waiting for me to drink though

Had this last night:

Drinking this now:

 

[gorb]

 

[nakedfrog]

I finally tried the Sierra Nevada Stout, pretty solid offering IMO. Doesn't top Obsidian, though.
And in the last two weeks, I happened to try two brews from Peace Tree, Kiss from a Gose and Blond Fatale. Rather liked both of them, so I also tried their No Coast IPA, which I'm also enjoying a lot.

 

[waggy]

I stopped in at bells brewary this weekend. they had bell's bourbon barrel aged expedition stout. It was like $25 for a 4 pack. i got 2.

Then i got home and thought why the fuck did i do that? i don't like stouts.
I got caught up in the fact that they were only being sold that day and the line was long and they were almost out.

ohwell.

 

[nakedfrog]

I stopped in at bells brewary this weekend. they had bell's bourbon barrel aged expedition stout. It was like $25 for a 4 pack. i got 2.

Then i got home and thought why the fuck did i do that? i don't like stouts.
I got caught up in the fact that they were only being sold that day and the line was long and they were almost out.

ohwell.

Well, the bourbon barrel aging tends to change the character a good bit.

 

[gorb]

I stopped in at bells brewary this weekend. they had bell's bourbon barrel aged expedition stout. It was like $25 for a 4 pack. i got 2.

Then i got home and thought why the fuck did i do that? i don't like stouts.
I got caught up in the fact that they were only being sold that day and the line was long and they were almost out.

ohwell.

Well, I love stouts. I've never had that one before so if you wanna sell it to me for a reasonable price I'll buy it

 

[gorb]

I finally tried the Sierra Nevada Stout, pretty solid offering IMO. Doesn't top Obsidian, though.
And in the last two weeks, I happened to try two brews from Peace Tree, Kiss from a Gose and Blond Fatale. Rather liked both of them, so I also tried their No Coast IPA, which I'm also enjoying a lot.

I'd have to have Narwhal and Obsidian back to back to compare the two. I really enjoy both so I don't think I'd be able to pick which one is better