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And here I shall vent- I hate my PC

Hayabusa Rider

Hayabusa Rider

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New R7 3700x
64 gigs ram
tuf gaming x570 plus

yada yada

Worked fine until about 10 days ago. While streaming the PC up and died. No warning, no BSOD, nada. swap power supply. it boots! Plug in the vid card (a 1070) and dead. Bad old PS? So I order a RX850M and plug that in.

Dead. Nada, unless I leave the vid card disconnected.

WTF is this garbage? GRRRRRRRRRRR.
 
A chain of events like this led to me walking away from building my own PCs for nearly a decade. So I understand.
 
I almost threw my PC out the window after replacing almost every part one by one and still having it crash after an hour or so in games, despite passing stability tests. Finally fixed it with a new PSU. Sounds like your vid card is pretty dead though. 1070 is aging now (I have one too)
 
I had a PC that just did not do well with add on GPUs. If you put one in, the boot was hit or miss. Usually it would just go into some weird loop where the screen goes on/off, it tries to display something, then reboots etc... You can power it off then back on, and this time it boots normally. Other times the graphics would be VERY slow, like you could see the lines being painted one at a time. Once it got to the OS it was fine... but every bootup was a mystery. Gave up on that machine. I will repurpose it as a server at some point. Maybe a dedicated VM server that uses local storage and does pfsense, DNS and other network stuff. It works fine as long as there's no GPU.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
New R7 3700x
64 gigs ram
tuf gaming x570 plus

yada yada

Worked fine until about 10 days ago. While streaming the PC up and died. No warning, no BSOD, nada. swap power supply. it boots! Plug in the vid card (a 1070) and dead. Bad old PS? So I order a RX850M and plug that in.

Dead. Nada, unless I leave the vid card disconnected.

WTF is this garbage? GRRRRRRRRRRR.
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What was the original psu? It's entirely possible that when it died, it took out your video card...or, it could just be your video card...have a different one to use to test with?
 
I hate to ask BUT are you certain you killed the power prior to inserting the GPU? It's also a good idea to press the power button a couple times after turning off the PSU hardware-switch to be sure all caps discharge.

If not that would have the potential to certainly kill said GPU and while the PSU would be far less likely it's not impossible that could have been damaged as well. (along with anything else connected)

Also keep in mind that it's possible to do serious damage with a tiny shock to a component but not have that component fail till later making it tough to figure out what actually caused the problem.

EDIT: Sorry mis-read and thought the problem started with a GPU re-install ... I agree the PSU is the most likely culprit and its likely it fried the GPU through the PCIe power-connection.
 
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I've been having issues with both of my secondary Ryzen 6C/12T "crunching boxes". Both of them had overheating and rebooting problems, I almost suspect some component has failed in the GPU(s) power-delivery. (Same pair of GPUs tested in both rigs. Refurb RX 5600XT, with new BIOS pushing wattage up from 150W to 180W.) PSUs in both rigs are EVGA 80Plus Gold 650W.
 
Captante said:
I hate to ask BUT are you certain you killed the power prior to inserting the GPU? It's also a good idea to press the power button a couple times after turning off the PSU hardware-switch to be sure all caps discharge.

If not that would have the potential to certainly kill said GPU and while the PSU would be far less likely it's not impossible that could have been damaged as well. (along with anything else connected)

Also keep in mind that it's possible to do serious damage with a tiny shock to a component but not have that component fail till later making it tough to figure out what actually caused the problem.

EDIT: Sorry mis-read and though the problem started with the GPU re-install ... I agree the PSU is the most likely culprit and its likely it fried the GPU through the PCIe power-connection.
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It's the card for sure. As long as I don't put in the power cord it runs fine. I have the HDMI on the board but it doesn't display although the less say everything is ok. I'm too fried to remember how to boot up with the onboard video. I feel like Ren in "Space Madness". "I'm tired, so very tired" and looking a bit like Ren. too I think 😛
 
Oh, yeah, I didn't catch that. If you have a 3700X Ryzen CPU, that doesn't have any video-out, and the video-out ports on the mobo will do nothing with it. You need an "APU" to utilize those.
 
I guess I'll have to wait for the rx6700. Buying a card and having it go obsolete sucks. In the meantime, I'll use my Pro 7 tab and Chromecast to my TV with my phone.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
It's the card for sure. As long as I don't put in the power cord it runs fine. I have the HDMI on the board but it doesn't display although the less say everything is ok. I'm too fried to remember how to boot up with the onboard video. I feel like Ren in "Space Madness". "I'm tired, so very tired" and looking a bit like Ren. too I think 😛
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Hang in there! 😎

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Otherwise it's time for Stimpy's new invention! 😛

 
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Hayabusa Rider said:
I guess I'll have to wait for the rx6700. Buying a card and having it go obsolete sucks. In the meantime, I'll use my Pro 7 tab and Chromecast to my TV with my phone.
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If you don't already have an older low end card, something like an 8400gs can be purchased for ~$15 shipped on ebay. That would allow you to boot it up without risking another card, continue using the PC for non gaming purposes, and ensure that it was just a bad card.
 
VirtualLarry said:
Oh, yeah, I didn't catch that. If you have a 3700X Ryzen CPU, that doesn't have any video-out, and the video-out ports on the mobo will do nothing with it. You need an "APU" to utilize those.
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I find that so annoying, you would think built on video is built on video, it should not matter on the cpu. I found this the hard way too. Supposedly SOME motherboards it will work but it's hit and miss.

If it was not for that it would make Ryzen a super good platform for servers where you don't nececerily need real server hardware as it's pretty much the best bang for the buck as far as specs go. I mean, you can still do it, but you are adding a lot of extra power draw by needing a GPU.
 
IronWing said:
We don’t know the problem is the video card.
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No but its not likely anything made by AMD caused the problem in this case.

Frankly I've had just as many issues with buggy Intel hardware as I have with AMD ... drivers vs Nvidia is another story! (to be fair I've also USED a lot more Intel hardware)
 
Captante said:
No but its not likely anything made by AMD caused the problem in this case.

Frankly I've had just as many issues with buggy Intel hardware as I have with AMD ... drivers vs Nvidia is another story! (to be fair I've also USED a lot more Intel hardware)
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Yup++++

I've had more "builds from hell" with Intel builds than I've had with AMD. However, that's only been 2 times over 30 years of building PCs. And both times it happened, it turned out to the motherboard had issues/defective, so I can't blame Intel for that.

That said, I also never buy just launched components/tech. I always wait for at least 6 months, and let others be the guinea pigs.
 
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