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Anatomy of War in the 21st Century

Jaskalas

Lifer
Anatomy of War in the 21st Century
Struggle for willingness to fight back

Terrorists are proxy groups for a people to wage war in an attempt to avoid responsibility falling on their government or their people. A new unconventional method of warfare playing to both the world crowd and to continue fighting under the radar of conventional armies. Their opponent?s armies would otherwise press a button and decimate them with extremely powerful explosives if they mobilized into a conventional army.

They mask their identities, pretending to be innocents and setting up base of operations in everyday neighborhoods where they conduct sniper attacks on easily identified conventional forces. Return fire against these groups causes, as they desire, a larger than normal loss of life among innocents. This causes wide public support for the ?freedom fighters? while causing condemnation for the nation they wage war against.

This is the insanity of it all, the world will give them extra protections when they purposefully endanger and kill innocents


Conventional Armies fighting these unconventional forces is a bloody mess. Like the British during the revolution standing in perfectly organized rows waiting to be picked apart, we march our soldiers out into the streets as if they are policemen against local thugs. When fighting a war, we could not do more to pose a great risk of life and injury to our soldiers as they battle a foe they cannot see.

Then even when we are attacked and can see the enemy, not one terrorist will die wearing a uniform. Nothing will tell the cameras who was innocent or not, but they camera will pick up the loss of apparent civilian life and condemn the conventional army. Worst yet, there really WILL be innocents killed as the unconventional forces hide among them and target them for the slaughter, it will remain the conventional force that the world crowd likes to blame.

Recently in Iraq, nothing could be further proof that conventional methods of combating a new unconventional war machine are a complete disaster. The conventional forces are then pressured into surrender by the world crowd, and terrorism grows ever more popular due to apparent victories.


Resolution of war comes when both sides cease fire. This is usually caused by diplomacy, or when one side surrenders to another. The very basics are that you must make your opponent want to surrender. You must wound them so grievously that they cannot continue to kill your people.

How soon we forget the requirements for victory in World War 2. We carpet bombed entire towns into rubble. We purposefully fire bombed Tokyo, and then unleashed the nuclear weapon. Victory then required that we brutalize our enemy to the point of their surrender. Why should it be today that we are the ones who are unwilling to fight brutally against a brutal enemy?

They abuse civilian populations, aim for innocents to die, we should do everything within our power to defeat them and force every last one of the soldiers of an unconventional war machine to either surrender or die. This is very difficult to do without involving the innocents they drag into the war zone. The battle lines have to be drawn, and everyone needs to understand the consequences of living within a mile of an unconventional army waging war in your own neighborhood. Anyone who can do so should flee. Others should stand and revolt against these unconventional forces; we must apply the pressure for causing this.

Brutal Measures do not have to ensure the loss of all innocent lives. However, they must be strong enough to ensure that the opponent surrenders their hostilities and will stop targeting innocent lives.

I propose that we turn entire towns into rubble, piece by piece, until the will to combat us is crushed. The buildings can, for the most part, remain standing. However, the entire infrastructure must be removed. Utilities, such as electricity, cell phone towers, roads, ports, airports. Towns from which unconventional armies wage war must be brought to suffer for being the host. This is the pressure that will set an example world wide that no one wants to have their neighbor bring our wrath upon them.

This will no doubt result in some loss of lives, uninhabitable war zones are not easy to survive in, but it gives them time to truly be innocent and leave without their weapons cache. This is not unlike a siege, against a position too heavily fortified to destroy head on. Which in this case, is a position in which an unconventional army MUST be rooted out.

To do anything less gives them a signal that utilizing an unconventional warfare that purposefully kills innocents will give them an advantage over us, and possibly even victory. Before the delusion becomes reality we are the ones who must turn their brutal measures back on them. It is us who must devise a strategy for ensuring that our kids are not that ones who inherit a world in which it?s a proven normal to use them as human shields for someone else?s unconventional war machine.


A quick note regarding this post. I do not claim my idea of responding to them and all its details to be flawless, or certain resolution. However, I do know we are ensured defeat if we support our opponent?s unconventional forces by allowing them safe haven. By allowing them morale equivalency, as if in some way without them using innocents as human shields that we would still end up killing the innocents.

We must meet their brutality with a crushing force or give them the satisfaction of knowing that terrorism is our bane and that they should exploit it further. To lose now, is to ensure they continue this tactic. As of yet, I have never seen the world respond properly to this unconventional method of waging war. It is on the rise because of these failures.
 
What, then, was wrong with Saddam's brutality? He seemed to be doing an amazing job keeping that powder keg relatively stable and, more importantly, much more secular.
Since there are no WMDs, invading on ?humanitarian? grounds was our reason de jour. ?Humanitarian? because of the brutality of Saddam's regime.
Now, not only have we birthed yet another Islamic Republic, but we must become the monster Saddam was to 'win'? Seems like a Pyrrhic victory to me.
If there is going to be blood, I'd rather it not be on our hands.

BTW, overwhelming and unapologetic brutality from us will not achieve the same results like it did from one of their own... it will spark the entire region into Jihad fervor.... as it goes "Sure, he's a bastard, but he's our bastard"?

 
Wouldn't a better option to be no invaded other countries in the first place? It is hard for a terrorist to attack if you're not there in the first place.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Wouldn't a better option to be no invaded other countries in the first place? It is hard for a terrorist to attack if you're not there in the first place.
Terrorists do not respect boundaries. They have shown that they are willing to go to you, not wait for you to come to them

 
There is no way to "win" this war except for killing each and every terrorist or potential terrorsit, and that is far too many for us or the world to stomach. terrorism is going to be a way of life, we're just going to have to live with it.

If someone wants to strap a bomb to themselves and walk into a subway there is NOTHING we can do to stop them. No matter how many troops we have or how much money we throw at the problem, this is the kind of stuff that can't be prevented, minimized? Perhaps, I think we are doing the best we can right now, but this is as good as it's going to get.
 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: smack Down
Wouldn't a better option to be no invaded other countries in the first place? It is hard for a terrorist to attack if you're not there in the first place.
Terrorists do not respect boundaries. They have shown that they are willing to go to you, not wait for you to come to them

True, but so is the post you quoted. If one has a broken foot you do not have the doctor saw off your foot to fix it. Iraq is what it is with terrorists and insurgents because we created a playground for them. Going into Afghanistan made sense because we were directly attacking those who attacked us. Going into Iraq for the purpose of combating terrorists did not.
 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: smack Down
Wouldn't a better option to be no invaded other countries in the first place? It is hard for a terrorist to attack if you're not there in the first place.
Terrorists do not respect boundaries. They have shown that they are willing to go to you, not wait for you to come to them

Well it depends on if the OP is talking about real terrorist like 9/11, OK city bombing, or the unibomber or the terrorist that are fighting guerilla wars. The later do for the most part respect borders.

Just look at where the terrorist groupd are located and where they strike most often
al qaeda the one exception that has really gone international but was founded in afgainistain to fight in afgainistain
Hamas and other palestinians terrorist groups: Founded in palestine and fighting in israel/palestine
Hezbollah found in Lebanon fights there/northern israel.
IRA found in north Ireland bombed north Ireland
Kashmir terrorist are fighting in and around Kashmir.

Other then al qaeda you would be hard press to find any international terrorist/guerilla orgizations. For the simple fact that guerilla warfare only works on your home turf because at home all they have to do is not die and they win the conflict.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Anatomy of War in the 21st Century
Struggle for willingness to fight back

Terrorists are proxy groups for a people to wage war in an attempt to avoid responsibility falling on their government or their people. A new unconventional method of warfare playing to both the world crowd and to continue fighting under the radar of conventional armies. Their opponent?s armies would otherwise press a button and decimate them with extremely powerful explosives if they mobilized into a conventional army.

They mask their identities, pretending to be innocents and setting up base of operations in everyday neighborhoods where they conduct sniper attacks on easily identified conventional forces. Return fire against these groups causes, as they desire, a larger than normal loss of life among innocents. This causes wide public support for the ?freedom fighters? while causing condemnation for the nation they wage war against.

This is the insanity of it all, the world will give them extra protections when they purposefully endanger and kill innocents


Conventional Armies fighting these unconventional forces is a bloody mess. Like the British during the revolution standing in perfectly organized rows waiting to be picked apart, we march our soldiers out into the streets as if they are policemen against local thugs. When fighting a war, we could not do more to pose a great risk of life and injury to our soldiers as they battle a foe they cannot see.

Then even when we are attacked and can see the enemy, not one terrorist will die wearing a uniform. Nothing will tell the cameras who was innocent or not, but they camera will pick up the loss of apparent civilian life and condemn the conventional army. Worst yet, there really WILL be innocents killed as the unconventional forces hide among them and target them for the slaughter, it will remain the conventional force that the world crowd likes to blame.

Recently in Iraq, nothing could be further proof that conventional methods of combating a new unconventional war machine are a complete disaster. The conventional forces are then pressured into surrender by the world crowd, and terrorism grows ever more popular due to apparent victories.


Resolution of war comes when both sides cease fire. This is usually caused by diplomacy, or when one side surrenders to another. The very basics are that you must make your opponent want to surrender. You must wound them so grievously that they cannot continue to kill your people.

How soon we forget the requirements for victory in World War 2. We carpet bombed entire towns into rubble. We purposefully fire bombed Tokyo, and then unleashed the nuclear weapon. Victory then required that we brutalize our enemy to the point of their surrender. Why should it be today that we are the ones who are unwilling to fight brutally against a brutal enemy?

They abuse civilian populations, aim for innocents to die, we should do everything within our power to defeat them and force every last one of the soldiers of an unconventional war machine to either surrender or die. This is very difficult to do without involving the innocents they drag into the war zone. The battle lines have to be drawn, and everyone needs to understand the consequences of living within a mile of an unconventional army waging war in your own neighborhood. Anyone who can do so should flee. Others should stand and revolt against these unconventional forces; we must apply the pressure for causing this.

Brutal Measures do not have to ensure the loss of all innocent lives. However, they must be strong enough to ensure that the opponent surrenders their hostilities and will stop targeting innocent lives.

I propose that we turn entire towns into rubble, piece by piece, until the will to combat us is crushed. The buildings can, for the most part, remain standing. However, the entire infrastructure must be removed. Utilities, such as electricity, cell phone towers, roads, ports, airports. Towns from which unconventional armies wage war must be brought to suffer for being the host. This is the pressure that will set an example world wide that no one wants to have their neighbor bring our wrath upon them.

This will no doubt result in some loss of lives, uninhabitable war zones are not easy to survive in, but it gives them time to truly be innocent and leave without their weapons cache. This is not unlike a siege, against a position too heavily fortified to destroy head on. Which in this case, is a position in which an unconventional army MUST be rooted out.

To do anything less gives them a signal that utilizing an unconventional warfare that purposefully kills innocents will give them an advantage over us, and possibly even victory. Before the delusion becomes reality we are the ones who must turn their brutal measures back on them. It is us who must devise a strategy for ensuring that our kids are not that ones who inherit a world in which it?s a proven normal to use them as human shields for someone else?s unconventional war machine.


A quick note regarding this post. I do not claim my idea of responding to them and all its details to be flawless, or certain resolution. However, I do know we are ensured defeat if we support our opponent?s unconventional forces by allowing them safe haven. By allowing them morale equivalency, as if in some way without them using innocents as human shields that we would still end up killing the innocents.

We must meet their brutality with a crushing force or give them the satisfaction of knowing that terrorism is our bane and that they should exploit it further. To lose now, is to ensure they continue this tactic. As of yet, I have never seen the world respond properly to this unconventional method of waging war. It is on the rise because of these failures.

The more difficult the problem and the more fear it generates the more will come calls for simple solutions. Clearly I will not be safe till I'm the only one left alive. But of course my life is worth more than all those billions.

Please kill everything, Mommy, I am so afraid.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Anatomy of War in the 21st Century
Struggle for willingness to fight back

Terrorists are proxy groups for a people to wage war in an attempt to avoid responsibility falling on their government or their people. A new unconventional method of warfare playing to both the world crowd and to continue fighting under the radar of conventional armies. Their opponent?s armies would otherwise press a button and decimate them with extremely powerful explosives if they mobilized into a conventional army.

They mask their identities, pretending to be innocents and setting up base of operations in everyday neighborhoods where they conduct sniper attacks on easily identified conventional forces. Return fire against these groups causes, as they desire, a larger than normal loss of life among innocents. This causes wide public support for the ?freedom fighters? while causing condemnation for the nation they wage war against.

This is the insanity of it all, the world will give them extra protections when they purposefully endanger and kill innocents


Conventional Armies fighting these unconventional forces is a bloody mess. Like the British during the revolution standing in perfectly organized rows waiting to be picked apart, we march our soldiers out into the streets as if they are policemen against local thugs. When fighting a war, we could not do more to pose a great risk of life and injury to our soldiers as they battle a foe they cannot see.

Then even when we are attacked and can see the enemy, not one terrorist will die wearing a uniform. Nothing will tell the cameras who was innocent or not, but they camera will pick up the loss of apparent civilian life and condemn the conventional army. Worst yet, there really WILL be innocents killed as the unconventional forces hide among them and target them for the slaughter, it will remain the conventional force that the world crowd likes to blame.

Recently in Iraq, nothing could be further proof that conventional methods of combating a new unconventional war machine are a complete disaster. The conventional forces are then pressured into surrender by the world crowd, and terrorism grows ever more popular due to apparent victories.


Resolution of war comes when both sides cease fire. This is usually caused by diplomacy, or when one side surrenders to another. The very basics are that you must make your opponent want to surrender. You must wound them so grievously that they cannot continue to kill your people.

How soon we forget the requirements for victory in World War 2. We carpet bombed entire towns into rubble. We purposefully fire bombed Tokyo, and then unleashed the nuclear weapon. Victory then required that we brutalize our enemy to the point of their surrender. Why should it be today that we are the ones who are unwilling to fight brutally against a brutal enemy?

They abuse civilian populations, aim for innocents to die, we should do everything within our power to defeat them and force every last one of the soldiers of an unconventional war machine to either surrender or die. This is very difficult to do without involving the innocents they drag into the war zone. The battle lines have to be drawn, and everyone needs to understand the consequences of living within a mile of an unconventional army waging war in your own neighborhood. Anyone who can do so should flee. Others should stand and revolt against these unconventional forces; we must apply the pressure for causing this.

Brutal Measures do not have to ensure the loss of all innocent lives. However, they must be strong enough to ensure that the opponent surrenders their hostilities and will stop targeting innocent lives.

I propose that we turn entire towns into rubble, piece by piece, until the will to combat us is crushed. The buildings can, for the most part, remain standing. However, the entire infrastructure must be removed. Utilities, such as electricity, cell phone towers, roads, ports, airports. Towns from which unconventional armies wage war must be brought to suffer for being the host. This is the pressure that will set an example world wide that no one wants to have their neighbor bring our wrath upon them.

This will no doubt result in some loss of lives, uninhabitable war zones are not easy to survive in, but it gives them time to truly be innocent and leave without their weapons cache. This is not unlike a siege, against a position too heavily fortified to destroy head on. Which in this case, is a position in which an unconventional army MUST be rooted out.

To do anything less gives them a signal that utilizing an unconventional warfare that purposefully kills innocents will give them an advantage over us, and possibly even victory. Before the delusion becomes reality we are the ones who must turn their brutal measures back on them. It is us who must devise a strategy for ensuring that our kids are not that ones who inherit a world in which it?s a proven normal to use them as human shields for someone else?s unconventional war machine.


A quick note regarding this post. I do not claim my idea of responding to them and all its details to be flawless, or certain resolution. However, I do know we are ensured defeat if we support our opponent?s unconventional forces by allowing them safe haven. By allowing them morale equivalency, as if in some way without them using innocents as human shields that we would still end up killing the innocents.

We must meet their brutality with a crushing force or give them the satisfaction of knowing that terrorism is our bane and that they should exploit it further. To lose now, is to ensure they continue this tactic. As of yet, I have never seen the world respond properly to this unconventional method of waging war. It is on the rise because of these failures.

AWSOME ARTICLE!!!! :thumbsup:

It is about time someone said it.
 
You mean Genocide?
The more difficult the problem and the more fear it generates the more will come calls for simple solutions. Clearly I will not be safe till I'm the only one left alive. But of course my life is worth more than all those billions.

Please kill everything, Mommy, I am so afraid.
FFS, you act like what we did to win WW2 was wrong. This mentality that we?re hurting innocents THEY place in harms way is exactly what gives terrorism strength. If we held the people accountable as a whole and ruined their way of life by laying siege their entire towns, they would flee, turn over the hostiles, or die alongside those who they protect from us. There?s no need to occupy a war zone from which they attack our soldiers, you destroy the infrastructure and wait until they surrender.

Why must you prop up our opponent?s war machine by refusing to do anything about it merely because the soldiers took off their uniforms? This isn?t a call for genocide, this is a call to hold them responsible to prevent their genocide. It is completely unacceptable to sit by and claim armies have rights to attack us because they use human shields. If such practices were rendered useless they would soon learn to abandon them. Instead you claim the conventional army is committing genocide which is one of the driving reasons supporting terrorism today. You think brutal action taken against it shouldn?t be done.

My suggestion is somewhat similar to what Israel is doing in Lebanon, but with a more hands off approach, unless having to return artillery/missile fire back onto launch sites. Its light-years ahead of obtaining results compared to what we?ve done in Iraq.

Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: smack Down
Wouldn't a better option to be no invaded other countries in the first place? It is hard for a terrorist to attack if you're not there in the first place.
Terrorists do not respect boundaries. They have shown that they are willing to go to you, not wait for you to come to them

Well it depends on if the OP is talking about real terrorist like 9/11, OK city bombing, or the unibomber or the terrorist that are fighting guerilla wars. The later do for the most part respect borders.

I?m referring to the armies of another country, which sniper at us or our troops, in a situation like Lebanon, or Iraq. The towns from which we know have hostile forces should be brought to reap the warfare they sow. Not genocide, as our opponents would love to have us believe in their will to have us submit to terrorism, but a siege that makes the living conditions intolerable. With which they have time to decide their own fate before they join the fate of the enemy soldiers who use them as shields.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
You mean Genocide?
The more difficult the problem and the more fear it generates the more will come calls for simple solutions. Clearly I will not be safe till I'm the only one left alive. But of course my life is worth more than all those billions.

Please kill everything, Mommy, I am so afraid.
FFS, you act like what we did to win WW2 was wrong. This mentality that we?re hurting innocents THEY place in harms way is exactly what gives terrorism strength. If we held the people accountable as a whole and ruined their way of life by laying siege their entire towns, they would flee, turn over the hostiles, or die alongside those who they protect from us. There?s no need to occupy a war zone from which they attack our soldiers, you destroy the infrastructure and wait until they surrender.

Why must you prop up our opponent?s war machine by refusing to do anything about it merely because the soldiers took off their uniforms? This isn?t a call for genocide, this is a call to hold them responsible to prevent their genocide. It is completely unacceptable to sit by and claim armies have rights to attack us because they use human shields. If such practices were rendered useless they would soon learn to abandon them. Instead you claim the conventional army is committing genocide which is one of the driving reasons supporting terrorism today. You think brutal action taken against it shouldn?t be done.

My suggestion is somewhat similar to what Israel is doing in Lebanon, but with a more hands off approach, unless having to return artillery/missile fire back onto launch sites. Its light-years ahead of obtaining results compared to what we?ve done in Iraq.

Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: smack Down
Wouldn't a better option to be no invaded other countries in the first place? It is hard for a terrorist to attack if you're not there in the first place.
Terrorists do not respect boundaries. They have shown that they are willing to go to you, not wait for you to come to them

Well it depends on if the OP is talking about real terrorist like 9/11, OK city bombing, or the unibomber or the terrorist that are fighting guerilla wars. The later do for the most part respect borders.

I?m referring to the armies of another country, which sniper at us or our troops, in a situation like Lebanon, or Iraq. The towns from which we know have hostile forces should be brought to reap the warfare they sow. Not genocide, as our opponents would love to have us believe in their will to have us submit to terrorism, but a siege that makes the living conditions intolerable. With which they have time to decide their own fate before they join the fate of the enemy soldiers who use them as shields.

So you want more of this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
You mean Genocide?
The more difficult the problem and the more fear it generates the more will come calls for simple solutions. Clearly I will not be safe till I'm the only one left alive. But of course my life is worth more than all those billions.

Please kill everything, Mommy, I am so afraid.
FFS, you act like what we did to win WW2 was wrong. This mentality that we?re hurting innocents THEY place in harms way is exactly what gives terrorism strength. If we held the people accountable as a whole and ruined their way of life by laying siege their entire towns, they would flee, turn over the hostiles, or die alongside those who they protect from us. There?s no need to occupy a war zone from which they attack our soldiers, you destroy the infrastructure and wait until they surrender.

Why must you prop up our opponent?s war machine by refusing to do anything about it merely because the soldiers took off their uniforms? This isn?t a call for genocide, this is a call to hold them responsible to prevent their genocide. It is completely unacceptable to sit by and claim armies have rights to attack us because they use human shields. If such practices were rendered useless they would soon learn to abandon them. Instead you claim the conventional army is committing genocide which is one of the driving reasons supporting terrorism today. You think brutal action taken against it shouldn?t be done.

My suggestion is somewhat similar to what Israel is doing in Lebanon, but with a more hands off approach, unless having to return artillery/missile fire back onto launch sites. Its light-years ahead of obtaining results compared to what we?ve done in Iraq.

Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: smack Down
Wouldn't a better option to be no invaded other countries in the first place? It is hard for a terrorist to attack if you're not there in the first place.
Terrorists do not respect boundaries. They have shown that they are willing to go to you, not wait for you to come to them

Well it depends on if the OP is talking about real terrorist like 9/11, OK city bombing, or the unibomber or the terrorist that are fighting guerilla wars. The later do for the most part respect borders.

I?m referring to the armies of another country, which sniper at us or our troops, in a situation like Lebanon, or Iraq. The towns from which we know have hostile forces should be brought to reap the warfare they sow. Not genocide, as our opponents would love to have us believe in their will to have us submit to terrorism, but a siege that makes the living conditions intolerable. With which they have time to decide their own fate before they join the fate of the enemy soldiers who use them as shields.

So you want more of this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

No,

No Cameras in the war Zone would be the best 🙂
 
Sigh.... Genocide. I guess I get wrapped up in hating you use that word because you use it to give us morale equivalency with those who use human shields in their own acts of genocide. As if fighting murders isn?t worth it because there will be casualties. As if our surrender is the only option you?d be content with.

I do not accept that defeat is the only option, and while my proposal will without doubt cause casualties, being brutal against the terrorists would be effective. I DO NOT propose flat out carpet bombing with my idea. Rather, it is pressure that over time will give the unconventional forces and their hosts a large amount of pain while allowing the actual innocents inside the war zone time to be saved.

If you seem to think any act of responding to an unconventional army that uses human shields is an act of genocide in itself, then I don?t think I could argue against such logic. It appears cemented into the idea that we are the bad guys who should not fight.

This isn?t about any specific event or location. More about the general idea that we?re fighting an enemy who doesn?t stand up in organized rows for us to shoot. We need new strategies for rooting them out, or we?ll forever admit that we are to be used as human shields for whatever unconventional army is fighting in our own neighborhoods.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Sigh.... Genocide. I guess I get wrapped up in hating you use that word because you use it to give us morale equivalency with those who use human shields in their own acts of genocide. As if fighting murders isn?t worth it because there will be casualties. As if our surrender is the only option you?d be content with.

I do not accept that defeat is the only option, and while my proposal will without doubt cause casualties, being brutal against the terrorists would be effective. I DO NOT propose flat out carpet bombing with my idea. Rather, it is pressure that over time will give the unconventional forces and their hosts a large amount of pain while allowing the actual innocents inside the war zone time to be saved.

If you seem to think any act of responding to an unconventional army that uses human shields is an act of genocide in itself, then I don?t think I could argue against such logic. It appears cemented into the idea that we are the bad guys who should not fight.

This isn?t about any specific event or location. More about the general idea that we?re fighting an enemy who doesn?t stand up in organized rows for us to shoot. We need new strategies for rooting them out, or we?ll forever admit that we are to be used as human shields for whatever unconventional army is fighting in our own neighborhoods.

Our neighborhoods. Idon't see anyone fight outside my house. Do I need to check again?
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Our neighborhoods. Idon't see anyone fight outside my house. Do I need to check again?

The unconventional method of warfare is isolated to certain, unstable, regions of the world now, so you mock it while defending those who use it. Good ideals if you wish to spread its use. What we?re seeing now is its effectiveness; if we do not combat it now it will always be used later in future conflicts where ever they might be.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: smack Down
Our neighborhoods. Idon't see anyone fight outside my house. Do I need to check again?

The unconventional method of warfare is isolated to certain, unstable, regions of the world now, so you mock it while defending those who use it. Good ideals if you wish to spread its use. What we?re seeing now is its effectiveness; if we do not combat it now it will always be used later in future conflicts where ever they might be.

Unconventional warfare is only effective when the surronding population supports it. You can't project force while blending into the population.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: smack Down
Our neighborhoods. Idon't see anyone fight outside my house. Do I need to check again?

The unconventional method of warfare is isolated to certain, unstable, regions of the world now, so you mock it while defending those who use it. Good ideals if you wish to spread its use. What we?re seeing now is its effectiveness; if we do not combat it now it will always be used later in future conflicts where ever they might be.

Unconventional warfare is only effective when the surronding population supports it. You can't project force while blending into the population.

I don't know why you keep posting, your ignorance shows more and more everytime you post.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: smack Down
Our neighborhoods. Idon't see anyone fight outside my house. Do I need to check again?

The unconventional method of warfare is isolated to certain, unstable, regions of the world now, so you mock it while defending those who use it. Good ideals if you wish to spread its use. What we?re seeing now is its effectiveness; if we do not combat it now it will always be used later in future conflicts where ever they might be.

Unconventional warfare is only effective when the surronding population supports it. You can't project force while blending into the population.

I don't know why you keep posting, your ignorance shows more and more everytime you post.

Name a country that has every been conqured by unconventional forces.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: smack Down
Our neighborhoods. Idon't see anyone fight outside my house. Do I need to check again?

The unconventional method of warfare is isolated to certain, unstable, regions of the world now, so you mock it while defending those who use it. Good ideals if you wish to spread its use. What we?re seeing now is its effectiveness; if we do not combat it now it will always be used later in future conflicts where ever they might be.

Unconventional warfare is only effective when the surronding population supports it. You can't project force while blending into the population.

I don't know why you keep posting, your ignorance shows more and more everytime you post.

Name a country that has every been conqured by unconventional forces.

It is used mainly for defensive purposes. It is working wonders in Iraq vs the strongest military in the world.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: smack Down
Our neighborhoods. Idon't see anyone fight outside my house. Do I need to check again?

The unconventional method of warfare is isolated to certain, unstable, regions of the world now, so you mock it while defending those who use it. Good ideals if you wish to spread its use. What we?re seeing now is its effectiveness; if we do not combat it now it will always be used later in future conflicts where ever they might be.

Unconventional warfare is only effective when the surronding population supports it. You can't project force while blending into the population.

I don't know why you keep posting, your ignorance shows more and more everytime you post.

Name a country that has every been conqured by unconventional forces.

It is used mainly for defensive purposes. It is working wonders in Iraq vs the strongest military in the world.

Ok, now explain in what why was what I posted above ignorant. Because what you just said completely backs my post you idiot.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: smack Down
Our neighborhoods. Idon't see anyone fight outside my house. Do I need to check again?

The unconventional method of warfare is isolated to certain, unstable, regions of the world now, so you mock it while defending those who use it. Good ideals if you wish to spread its use. What we?re seeing now is its effectiveness; if we do not combat it now it will always be used later in future conflicts where ever they might be.

Unconventional warfare is only effective when the surronding population supports it. You can't project force while blending into the population.

I don't know why you keep posting, your ignorance shows more and more everytime you post.

Name a country that has every been conqured by unconventional forces.

It is used mainly for defensive purposes. It is working wonders in Iraq vs the strongest military in the world.

Ok, now explain in what why was what I posted above ignorant. Because what you just said completely backs my post you idiot.

The sorrounding population does not need to support it, it just needs to fear it. The way you phrase it, if any country has a guerilla enemy, than everyone in that country is a guerilla.
 
I?m referring to the armies of another country, which sniper at us or our troops, in a situation like Lebanon, or Iraq. The towns from which we know have hostile forces should be brought to reap the warfare they sow. Not genocide, as our opponents would love to have us believe in their will to have us submit to terrorism, but a siege that makes the living conditions intolerable. With which they have time to decide their own fate before they join the fate of the enemy soldiers who use them as shields.

Israel has made the lives of the Palestinians intolerable for years on end and the Palestinians are now even better at being insane. It is only the deeply psychologically scared who think more and more violence is the answer to the problems man has.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: smack Down
Our neighborhoods. Idon't see anyone fight outside my house. Do I need to check again?

The unconventional method of warfare is isolated to certain, unstable, regions of the world now, so you mock it while defending those who use it. Good ideals if you wish to spread its use. What we?re seeing now is its effectiveness; if we do not combat it now it will always be used later in future conflicts where ever they might be.

Unconventional warfare is only effective when the surronding population supports it. You can't project force while blending into the population.

I don't know why you keep posting, your ignorance shows more and more everytime you post.

Name a country that has every been conqured by unconventional forces.

It is used mainly for defensive purposes. It is working wonders in Iraq vs the strongest military in the world.

Ok, now explain in what why was what I posted above ignorant. Because what you just said completely backs my post you idiot.

The sorrounding population does not need to support it, it just needs to fear it. The way you phrase it, if any country has a guerilla enemy, than everyone in that country is a guerilla.

Yes it does. With out local support they will have no transportation, shelter or food.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: smack Down
Our neighborhoods. Idon't see anyone fight outside my house. Do I need to check again?

The unconventional method of warfare is isolated to certain, unstable, regions of the world now, so you mock it while defending those who use it. Good ideals if you wish to spread its use. What we?re seeing now is its effectiveness; if we do not combat it now it will always be used later in future conflicts where ever they might be.

Unconventional warfare is only effective when the surronding population supports it. You can't project force while blending into the population.

I don't know why you keep posting, your ignorance shows more and more everytime you post.

Name a country that has every been conqured by unconventional forces.

It is used mainly for defensive purposes. It is working wonders in Iraq vs the strongest military in the world.

Ok, now explain in what why was what I posted above ignorant. Because what you just said completely backs my post you idiot.

The sorrounding population does not need to support it, it just needs to fear it. The way you phrase it, if any country has a guerilla enemy, than everyone in that country is a guerilla.

Yes it does. With out local support they will have no transportation, shelter or food.


They have money, that doesn't mean support

Here let me put it this way to you...

Taking your definition...every person in Lebannon and Palestine is a terrorist who should be killed.
 
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