Anandtech's review of the iphone 6 is out!

[finbarqs]

Anandtech need to do a #bendgate test. With so much buzz around #Bendgate, it needs to be addressed!

 

[Eug]

A friend of mine says his brand new iPhone is now bent. I've haven't heard back about the specifics yet though.

 

[Mopetar]

I expressed that before and I got chastised by Joshua Ho that this would result in massive cheating.

He's probably correct. Several manufacturers were already cheating on other benchmarks, essentially artificially increasing the clock rate for when certain programs were detected.

Sure they can hide behind a closed source test script all they want, but without transparency, how can anyone be sure the results are not only good but meaningful?

Ideally they would provide a description for how the benchmark works, which should provide some indication of its usefulness. Also, other sites also have their own methods of testing similar performance metrics, so there's definitely a possibility to compare these results with other results to see how much correlation there is.

While the numbers themselves are important, it's also necessary to see if the ranking of devices remains consistent. There are all kinds of external factors that can influence the results, such as strength of the WiFi or cellular signal, the sites being visited, etc. that can impact the observed battery life in terms of actual length, but if the same phones tend to come out towards the top across multiple different benchmarks, we can assume that AT's benchmark is just as good as any other site.

If someone thinks AT has a bad, biased, or unrepresentative benchmark, why not actually compile some data that can actually be used to support or refute this claim rather than simply complaining about it. I would imagine that it the results are quite far off from what other reviewers are seeing that AT would try to devise a more accurate or representative bench mark.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Is it me,

yes , it is you...

 

[Anubis]

Anandtech need to do a #bendgate test. With so much buzz around #Bendgate, it needs to be addressed!

the phones bend
i bent 2 of them today

CNETs numbers of ~70N of force are correct

2 point, 3 point, 4 point, it does not matter the phone bends under low loads.

 

[WelshBloke]

the phones bend
i bent 2 of them today

?

Details?

 

[Anubis]

?

Details?

my job is basically to test and break things, components to full devices. In the past year we have broken something close to 1000 phones (many different ones) among other things. all of them perfectly functional before we get to them. cant tell you specifics.

 

[WelshBloke]

cant tell you specifics.

Booo!

 

[cheezy321]

my job is basically to test and break things, components to full devices. In the past year we have broken something close to 1000 phones (many different ones) among other things. all of them perfectly functional before we get to them. cant tell you specifics.

How does it compare to other devices? Anything similar?

 

[TreVader]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review

Is it me, or is there a big ethical lapse here? The site's owner, anand lal shimpi, is employed by Apple. As we saw with the Gamergate debacle, journalists did not disclose their financial/sexual conflicts of interests and that caused a big poopstorm which made many sites revise their conflict of interest policies to include disclosures (including revising past articles with disclosures).

It's you.




As far as the iPhone 6 and 6+, it's pretty obvious just by holding it that apple has done something amazing. I feel sorry for all the poor saps who bought the Note 3, only to find out a few months later that apple made a much better phablet. The only sadder people will be the people who buy the Note 4.

 

[TreVader]

cant tell you specifics.

🙄



Take a pic of *TWO* bent iphones, together, or be quiet. It's obvious you're lying, unless you want to actually buy two iPhones and bend them. Which is totally cool with me 😉



My job is to bend HTC One M8s. Take my word for it, they actually come bent from the factory!

 

[rcpratt]

It's you.

As far as the iPhone 6 and 6+, it's pretty obvious just by holding it that apple has done something amazing. I feel sorry for all the poor saps who bought the Note 3, only to find out a few months later that apple made a much better phablet. The only sadder people will be the people who buy the Note 4.

You're just about as delusional as he is.

 

[Anubis]

How does it compare to other devices? Anything similar?

The 5S is a lot stronger,
the shell in the new phones is weaker in bending then the glass in the LCD module. meaning it plastically deforms at low loads, glass does not, the glass will eventually break but it takes a bit of force, generally the LCD itself breaks and bleads before that happens

 

[dawheat]

It's you.

As far as the iPhone 6 and 6+, it's pretty obvious just by holding it that apple has done something amazing. I feel sorry for all the poor saps who bought the Note 3, only to find out a few months later that apple made a much better phablet. The only sadder people will be the people who buy the Note 4.

Now you've gone and had to derp as hard as the OP. Why do both sides have to have these people who act like children or that it's a zero sum game and one side has to "lose" for the other side to "win".

Gasp - my household will soon have both an IP6 and Note 4 user under the same roof and guess what - both people will be completely satisfied.

 

[TreVader]

Now you've gone and had to derp as hard as the OP. Why do both sides have to have these people who act like children or that it's a zero sum game.

Gasp - my household will soon have both an IP6 and Note 4 user under the same roof and guess what - both people will be completely satisfied.

How do you know you'll (or your wife/whatever will) be satisfied with a Note 4, when it's not even out?




I don't disagree that android can be useful. If you don't have any money, or you want something to hack WEP and use metasploits then go android. iPhone can't do that (that i know of). There are decent android phones, and I think the Galaxy S3 and S4 were superior to the iPhone 4S and 5 respectively.


Since the release of the 5s, the only real benefit to android has been the big screen. Now that the 6 is out, I fail to see any reason to use it besides hacking. Is that what you'll use it for:ninja:?

 

[ControlD]

How do you know you'll (or your wife/whatever will) be satisfied with a Note 4, when it's not even out?




I don't disagree that android can be useful. If you don't have any money, or you want something to hack WEP and use metasploits then go android. iPhone can't do that (that i know of). There are decent android phones, and I think the Galaxy S3 and S4 were superior to the iPhone 4S and 5 respectively.


Since the release of the 5s, the only real benefit to android has been the big screen. Now that the 6 is out, I fail to see any reason to use it besides hacking. Is that what you'll use it for:ninja:?

Just when I think sh*t couldn't get any stupider you roll in and completely destroy that thought. Nice job.

 

[sweenish]

I don't know how, but this thread got even more awesome.

 

[VashHT]

I think Phokus and TreVader should fight to the death.

 

[rcpratt]

Idiot fight!

 

[dawheat]

Just when I think sh*t couldn't get any stupider you roll in and completely destroy that thought. Nice job.

I'm not sure how to respond to this kind of nonsense (not you, the post you're referring to). But to clarify, I just bought my wife the IP6 and I'll be replacing my Note 3 and OPO with a Note 4 (after playing around with it extensively at Best Buy). I've used her iPhone 5 and now 6 regularly and she uses my phones as well. Most sane people can appreciate both ecosystems and not feel the need to go off the rails.

At the end of the day, I could be quite happy with both the 6 Plus and Note 4 - if Samsung hadn't gone with the metal frame and if their 1440p screen wasn't so great, I might have switched to the 6 Plus for this year. I will say that Android L is way overdue however.

 

[TheThirdMan]

Why is it only Apple releases that cause these bizarre people to come out of the woodwork? When BMW release a new car, car forums aren't full of mercedes owners frothing at the mouth in rage because BMW dared to release a new car. When Windows 10 was anounced, the forums aren't filled with OSX and linux users raging about it. When Nikon releases a new camera, Canon owners aren't outraged about it. When Asus release a new motherboard there aren't ASRock motherboard owners screaming in livid rage that Asus dared to release a motherboard.

And yet a new iphone comes out, literally any article on any website will have the comments and forums plagued by rage filled android users. Why does it affect them so much?

If only they'd put this much energy into something that actually matters instead of a phone. Who cares? It's a product. You don't have to purchase it. At least mature from idea that you're always right to realise that other people like different things than you, and that's ok. Try to understand that because someone chose different than you doesn't mean they're idiots. Not everyone has to agree with you. It is actually possible to purchase a different product from the one you decided to purchase. Go and do something productive instead of investing so much emotion and time into other people's purchasing decisions.

 

[rcpratt]

Why is it only Apple releases that cause these bizarre people to come out of the woodwork? When BMW release a new car, car forums aren't full of mercedes owners frothing at the mouth in rage because BMW dared to release a new car. When Windows 10 was anounced, the forums aren't filled with OSX and linux users raging about it. When Nikon releases a new camera, Canon owners aren't outraged about it. When Asus release a new motherboard there aren't ASRock motherboard owners screaming in livid rage that Asus dared to release a motherboard.

And yet a new iphone comes out, literally any article on any website will have the comments and forums plagued by rage filled android users. Why does it affect them so much?

If only they'd put this much energy into something that actually matters instead of a phone. Who cares? It's a product. You don't have to purchase it. At least mature from idea that you're always right to realise that other people like different things than you, and that's ok. Try to understand that because someone chose different than you doesn't mean they're idiots. Not everyone has to agree with you. It is actually possible to purchase a different product from the one you decided to purchase. Go and do something productive instead of investing so much emotion and time into other people's purchasing decisions.

You pretending it doesn't flow both directions is pretty hilarious.

 

[TheThirdMan]

You pretending it doesn't flow both directions is pretty hilarious.

Compare the Moto X review comments and the iphone 6 ones.

More importantly, why do you care?

 

[rcpratt]

Compare the Moto X review comments and the iphone 6 ones.

More importantly, why do you care?

What? Why do you care? I'm replying to a forum post on the internet, the same way you are.

There's one iPhone release per year. There's ten flagship Android releases per year. Doesn't take a genius...

 

[TheThirdMan]

What? Why do you care? I'm replying to a forum post on the internet, the same way you are.

There's one iPhone release per year. There's ten flagship Android releases per year. Doesn't take a genius...

So the reason iphone review comments are 90% android users and android review comments are 5% iphone users is because iphone users need to spread their anger evenly over the multiple reviews?

Makes perfect sense.:hmm: