Anandtech Review of the MSI K7T Turbo is here.

AMD4ME2

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technonut just the member I wanted to see! I wanted to thank you, not so much for anything you did directly but I had read some posts where you said that you use the Tyan Trinity KT for your customer builds, so I went with that board for a friend of mine.. worked great.. good basic board for what she needs.. not a problem with it yet.

also thanks for posting this, I hadn't noticed it on the front page yet.. good read.. I still like my KT7A-Raid better though. Win98SE sucks though, and keeps leaking memory all over my floor.. :|
 

rominl

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i guess one of the little reasons why it is not rated higher than the kt7a is that its performance is slightly edged by the kt7a.
 

Technonut

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AMD4ME2, I am glad the info on the TYAN Trinity KT did you some good. I still use them for the majority of my customer builds, unless requested otherwise. Can't beat a 3 year warranty, and the stability either, which keeps my &quot;average user&quot; customers happy, and me also, for less troubleshooting calls.

One must keep in mind that the K7T Turbo board used for the review was a pre-production board, and could go either as good, better, or not as well as the review board. (check the posts about the issues people are having with the last Pro2A &quot;Crown Winner&quot;. ) I have had my KT7AR going 24/7 without a crash at 145-146 FSB since I have had it. I run the Prime95 Torture test in the background, and loop the 3DMark2000 Demo just for kicks over night and longer sometimes, and have not yet come back to see a lock up or crash. Even by Anandtech's testing standards, 2 crashes in 24 hours looping Content Creation Winstone is not considered bad. (I plan on testing that for myself also, since I feel the quality of components, and configuration play a large part in overall stability)

I purchased a Pro2A recently, and had the multiplier and cold boot issues right out of the box. It remains to be seen whether the true production K7T Turbo boards are &quot;all that&quot;, and since I try boards &quot;hands on&quot;, I will purchase one to compare against my KT7AR when the K7T Turbo is available.

I would have also liked to have seen some detailed memory benchmark comparisons against the K7T Turbo, and KT7AR.
 

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mhm, only 147 mhz possible?

maybe anandtech should search for better memory?
i have seen test with kt133a boards up to 166 MHz.

one question about the KT7 TURBO, has this board the 3 phase power solution like abit and epox?

i think its important for future cpu´s witch (maybe) need higher amps?!

btw: this review on andantech was bad (imho).
i would have seen a more &quot;in deep&quot; test with more benchmarks etc.
anandtech is getting lazy? ;-)
 

megatexel

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It would be really cool to up the FSB to 166 and have a 7-8x multiplyer. Do we know of any ram that will do this @ Cas 2?

how about that Infineon stuff Compuwiz1 has?
 

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i'm pretty sure it'll go higher than 147 mhz with high quality PC150 SDRAM.
 

nealh

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did anyone noticed there was no fan on chipset like the other boards..or I am I wrong???
 

rominl

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Technonut - hmmm... AnandTech crowned the Pro2, they didn't crown the Pro2A. People are having problems with the Pro2A, which is using the new South Bridge (and my guess is that's what contribute to the problem). I hardly see any people with problems on the Pro2 at all on this forum.

Gothmoth - yes, i definitely agree with you that AnandTech should get some faster memory to test out the FSB. My guess is most boards can do 155+ no problem. for benchmark, AnandTech always run only the 3 tests for motherboard reviews. if you want to read more benchmarks, you should read the chipset review. IMHO, i think for motherboard comparisons, these 3 tests are enough, especially everyone notice that nowadays all motherboards perform very closely anyway (if it is not something extememly odd about a particular board)

nealh - as mentioned in the article, there is no fan on the hsf unit. also, if you notice, there are only 2 fan headers.

 

Gothmoth

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@rominl

it´s not only the benchmarks. i miss some other information too:

has the board 2 phase,3 phase or 4 phase power solution?
some test with different ram´s are usefull. some boards have problems reading the spd eeprom properly, some have problems with noname ram (even on 133 mhz).
to bios or not to bios, whats up with the bios (thats not an review thats a preview :).
pci sharing, usb compatibility (i have read a lot about problems with the usb controller
on kt133 boards), etc, etc.

i have read many reviews about the new kt133a boards with more usefull information.
i think this review is far from what i expect from anandtech.

 

gerryko

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It seems to have twice as many power transistors (8) around the cpu than the Pro 2A.
How about memory interleaving? Has it got that?
 

rominl

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ic... i am sure AnandTech people will read this thread and make the coming reviews better.
 

Technonut

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<< Technonut - hmmm... AnandTech crowned the Pro2, they didn't crown the Pro2A. People are having problems with the Pro2A, >>


I stand corrected, but that &quot;crowning&quot; did set the spark that caused the Pro2A buying frenzy on this forum. I even tried one to see if I was missing out on something, and to be able to voice a &quot;hands on&quot; experience with the board. (I received one with the multiplier/ cold boot issues)

From what I understand from reading Anandtech's recent Server Farm article, they are not even using the Pro 2's anymore.