im on a powerbook 17" (borrowed from school forgot my 12" PB).. omg this thing is awesome!!
im gonna go trade in my 12" powerbook for one of thes babies..
im gonna go trade in my 12" powerbook for one of thes babies..
Forum- Macs, Masochists
This forum is way too hostile to Macs in general to make it reasonable. The typical Mac user is far too inept on the technical end, and far too preachy on the philosophical end to deal with what they would face here, and most of those that aren't hang out at Ars(no disrespect to the few we have
) already
Also, the ruler to measure our silicon reproductive organs here tends to be gaming, something you certainly *would not* buy a Mac for.
This forum is way too hostile to Macs in general to make it reasonable. The typical Mac user is far too inept on the technical end, and far too preachy on the philosophical end to deal with what they would face here, and most of those that aren't hang out at Ars(no disrespect to the few we have
) already Also, the ruler to measure our silicon reproductive organs here tends to be gaming, something you certainly *would not* buy a Mac for.
Wow.. He tried it and liked the platform.
I wonder how many others here would come to the same conclusion if they could lose the blind hatred and actually TRY using a Mac.
I wonder how many others here would come to the same conclusion if they could lose the blind hatred and actually TRY using a Mac.
Make it 9 now
I sold my Inspiron 8200 and bought a 15" PowerBook last month. Haven't looked back since. With this and my FreeBSD server, it's been smooth sailing
The one button mouse isn't as bad as it seems. Since the OS has an abundance of customizable shortcuts and also the interface is well laid out so that you don't need a 2nd mouse button, it's very straightforward to use.
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Originally posted by: mpitts
Wow.. He tried it and liked the platform.
I wonder how many others here would come to the same conclusion if they could lose the blind hatred and actually TRY using a Mac.[/quote]:roll:
Let me know when I can get a decent performing Mac to dick around with for $400.00
Originally posted by: mpitts
Wow.. He tried it and liked the platform.
I wonder how many others here would come to the same conclusion if they could lose the blind hatred and actually TRY using a Mac.[/quote]:roll:
Let me know when I can get a decent performing Mac to dick around with for $400.00
Koing
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Originally posted by: bastula
Make it 9 now
I sold my Inspiron 8200 and bought a 15" PowerBook last month. Haven't looked back since. With this and my FreeBSD server, it's been smooth sailing
The one button mouse isn't as bad as it seems. Since the OS has an abundance of customizable shortcuts and also the interface is well laid out so that you don't need a 2nd mouse button, it's very straightforward to use.
That may be a point but I STILL want a 2nd button on the laptop. I can't just plug in another mouse as that is just something else to carry about. But for a desktop Mac I can just get another mouse.
But I'll probably go to a PB when and if I upgrade from my great Vaio. 1.67kg!
Koing
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Forum- Macs, Masochists
This forum is way too hostile to Macs in general to make it reasonable. The typical Mac user is far too inept on the technical end, and far too preachy on the philosophical end to deal with what they would face here, and most of those that aren't hang out at Ars(no disrespect to the few we have
Also, the ruler to measure our silicon reproductive organs here tends to be gaming, something you certainly *would not* buy a Mac for.
With OS-X there are now many Mac users that are far more technically adept than the avarge PC enthusiast.
And AT isn't exactly full of computer savvy people, unless "computers == games", which seems to be the most common attitude around here these days.
And most PC enthusiasts are far more technically adept then the average Mac enthusiast. Spent about a decade on Macs here and up until about a year or so ago was a still a regular particpant at Mac forums, I'll gladly have this debate
I don't understand your using OSX as an example of anything, varrious *nix builds have been available for PPC for a long time including numerous builds of Linux, OSX just adds tons of bloat. Sure it's better then OS9 or anything earlier from Apple, but what isn't?As I stated in my last post, there are some very knowedgeable Mac enthusiasts- but they pretty much all post at Ars already. The Mac faithful that would be drawn to this site would be butchered by this crowd. They tend to be equal parts arrogant and ignorant, not capable of debating the finer points and relying time and time again on the 'look and feel' BS that they have been spoon fed straight out of Jobs' RDF. That line of argument will get them laughed at here, and none to kindly.
Simply look to people here that are PC enthusiasts looking to buy a prebuilt and are openly laughed at or called fools, and this is when they have the choice of buying whatever the hell they want. What do you think this same crowd would say to the people who only could buy what Jobs so deemed them worthy of having? They will resort to the normal 'Wintel' banter that they cling to, in an AMD dominated forum. They will talk about Gates' evil deeds, and have his billions in charity thrown up against Steve Jobs letting his own daughter live far below the poverty line while he sat on hundreds of millions of dollars. They will tout the virtue of single button mice while the PC enthusiasts will be in tears at the thought of giving up their MX500/700s and their 7/8 button mice. They will talk about ease of use and the crowd here will fail to comprehend what they are talking about. They will lament the lack of stability of PCs and yet again they will be met with significant confusion from all the users who go months regularly without a reboot. They will boast of how any application you can get for the PC they can for the Mac, and they will be hammered with PCs have it all, more choices, and can play all the games. They will try and sing the virtues of the PPC architecture and this crowd will pour dump trucks of benchmarks on to them showing the reverse. They will try and talk about the superiority of SMP while the sizeable crowd of SMP PC users here will quickly point out their advantages in price and performance. They will try and argue the superior visuals of the Mac OS while the PC users here will simply show them what is possible with WinBlinds and the like.
Against normal prebuilt buying straight 'Dell' PC users Mac enthusiasts are at an enormous disadvantage in discussions, here they are a sacrificial lamb waiting for the slaughter.
AT may not be loaded with tech savvy people, but even the average AT poster is far, far more tech savvy then the average Mac enthusiast, and there are enough people who are tech savvy to back up the AT regulars. If a Mac forum were created here it would quickly devolve into a Battlezone in which the Mac faithful would stand no chance if for no other reason then numbers alone, let alone that they are dealing with a prebuilt out of a small handful compared to ~100K purpose built rigs. There are a few good Mac forums around, and there is always Ars for cross platform discussions, here the crowd that would be attracted would end up being violated in every way possible over a discussion forum and turned off to AT in general due to the forums.
A Mac forum would be great. I'd really like to hear about software & such.
Apple makes awesome laptops.
Apple makes awesome laptops.
ViRGE
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You're right of course Ben, but still, I think we should at least try it, and see where it goes. This isn't going to be an exact replica of OT with such threads put in plain sight of the trolls, but in its own forum, just like the CPU forum and other specialized forums that survive due to being off the beaten path. At the very least, if it turns in to nothing but a flame feast, then we can shut it down, but until then, I think the value added by such a forum is too great to be overlooked.
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Originally posted by: bastula
Make it 9 now
I sold my Inspiron 8200 and bought a 15" PowerBook last month. Haven't looked back since. With this and my FreeBSD server, it's been smooth sailing
The one button mouse isn't as bad as it seems. Since the OS has an abundance of customizable shortcuts and also the interface is well laid out so that you don't need a 2nd mouse button, it's very straightforward to use.
make it 10
Just bought a PB 12" back in NOV. Loving it. Only regret is that i didn't get the 17" PB. Don't knock it til you try it. =p
Originally posted by: radiocore
Make it 9 now
I sold my Inspiron 8200 and bought a 15" PowerBook last month. Haven't looked back since. With this and my FreeBSD server, it's been smooth sailing
The one button mouse isn't as bad as it seems. Since the OS has an abundance of customizable shortcuts and also the interface is well laid out so that you don't need a 2nd mouse button, it's very straightforward to use.
make it 10
Just bought a PB 12" back in NOV. Loving it. Only regret is that i didn't get the 17" PB. Don't knock it til you try it. =p[/quote]
Ignorance is Bliss for most of the people here.
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