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AnandTech - Intel 925X/915: Chipset Performance & DDR2

Somewhat disappointing, have power supply manufactures started changing their current connecters? What will the starting price range be?
 
er... that was underwhelming 😕

I was expecting some sort of performance boost, but the Prescott Pentium 4 still gets its arse beat by the FX in games.

Good review though.
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
Just converted the document to PDF format and I'm gonna read it on my iPAQ in bed 😛
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do you have convenient way of converting to pdf?




only 1 IDE channel.........
 
Wow, glad Intel's throwing it in reverse. Besides the fact that AMD drops a large asskicking on Intel yet again, there are NO gains to be had from the new chipsets and the costs are in the hundeds of dollars that consumers are supposed to swallow. There better be a HUGE performance improvement to justify a new videocard, new hard drive or opticals given the IDE limitation, new memory, and new power supply. What is Intel smoking?
 
After reading the review i decided i have enough of intel's useless features and being forced to upgrade the things i don't need, i'm switching to AMD.
 
--*Note to self to reread comments

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Is that a typo on page 19?

Second graph

http://www.anandtech.com/chipsets/showdoc.html?i=2088&p=19


16 - Posted on Jun 19, 2004 at 2:28 AM by JustAnAverageGuy Reply
#4

You're probably right.

Would have been a much fairer comparison had they used the same CPU.

A Northwood on 875
vs a
Prescott on 925

Not exactly the best way to compare chipsets

A prescott on 875
vs a
Prescott on 925

probably would have been a bit more objective.
 
You're missing the entire point. They're trying to compare a move to Prescott and new chipset compared to the older Northwood plus 875.
 
So what exactly is the deal with these new 24 pin power connectors? Have they integrated the 4-pin 12V connector in to the ATX power connector, or is this something different? And since all these boards seem to run with a 20 pin connector just fine, what's the point of a 24 pin; future use?
 
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Disappointing. AMD still clearly dominates the gaming market. (although they did use an FX-53 against a prescott)
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I'm not much of an Intel follower but wouldn't the 3.6GHz Prescott that they used be faster then using a 3.4GHz EE to go against a FX?
 
Originally posted by: hahher
Originally posted by: NFS4
Just converted the document to PDF format and I'm gonna read it on my iPAQ in bed 😛
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do you have convenient way of converting to pdf?




only 1 IDE channel.........
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OpenOffice has an excellent PDF conversion function.
 
Intel needs to spend a little more time in the enginerring phase, and a little less in the marketing. As I read it, the new chipsets provide absoluetly no performance benefits over current technology, and require that you completely re-outfit your system. some may see all the new technology support as a positive move, but when all that new technology provides no performance gains, and just requires that you spend a lot of extra money then it is worthless. As long as DDR can maintain lower latency than DDR2, it will outperform substantially faster DD2 modules. At this rate, we'll need to see 667 DDR2 before DDR is outpaced. We might as well have waited for DD3 (which addresses many of the problems in DDR2) and stuck with DDR. This chipset launch is pathetic.
 
I'm not too worried. This is normal for intel. Unimpressive at launch, much better a bit later on.
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I remember Intel doesn't used to be like this many years ago... Very disappointed after reading this review.

Going to drink myself to sleep :beer:

😀
 
Ya, this will be pretty sweet in the next few months when these technologies actually start to mature a bit and show what they can do!
 
From what I have been reading over the past few months, I thought Intel was going to try to force BTX along with with the new chipsets. All these boards were ATX, just curious if the poor reception at Computex might have had an influence. As far as the results go, I am as unimpressed as the rest of you. I think that going with a 3.4 Northwood in my i865 rig was a good choice to take me into the next year.
 
NCQ only mentioned once! Every single hard-drive manufacturer + intel are singing halleluja about it, and these chipsets are the first affordable way to get it...

yet no benches or even discussion of NCQ in this article, very disappointing... If the benefits are as great as seagate / WD state, this feature should be well worth the upgrade all by itself, no?

PS: didn't mean to harp, otherwise an excellent review, good to see DDR2 is not any slower than DDR1, yet allowing an upgrade path
 
Well I have read around the web this morning. These new processors seem to overclock great. But nothing changed. Intel still wins the same handful of tests, but in many situations including games, still loses quite miserably. While it doesn't look like AMD is going to go much faster with the current A64 & FX line it still trumps Intel. And Intel now makes it more expensive to upgrade. Board and CPU this time. It doesn't seem like there is much of a tangible performance upgrade over the current Northwood and 875/865 setup either. I am running a P4 2.4 setup, but it looks like I am going to go back to AMD this fall. Its just better for less. Not too often that happens in life period.
 
Edit: sorry i missed the part in the article that said you did do that... you may ignore the rest


Evan
can you investigate whether or not the 20pin connectors will work to power the boards properly
intel has some entry level serverboards (S875WP1) w/ the 24pin +8pin setup and they say in their own specs that a 20pin +4pin will work fine, which they do, i have built 5 systems based on the boards w/o the special powersupply...
Thanks,
Josh
 
They're not new, i been using 24 pin power for the past 2.5 years. Most Xeon workstation boards has it

Originally posted by: ViRGE
So what exactly is the deal with these new 24 pin power connectors? Have they integrated the 4-pin 12V connector in to the ATX power connector, or is this something different? And since all these boards seem to run with a 20 pin connector just fine, what's the point of a 24 pin; future use?
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They're not new, i been using 24 pin power for the past 2.5 years. Most Xeon workstation boards has it
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That would be an EPS power supply. We have triple 750's in some of the Xeon MP servers and the workstations have single 750's.

What I want to see is the durability of the socket itself tested.

For persons that take their chips out of the socket frequently this could be a real issue!

Cheers!
 
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