Question [Anandtech] AMD Details Renoir: The Ryzen Mobile 4000 Series 7nm APU Uncovered

[Hitman928]

AMD Details Renoir: The Ryzen Mobile 4000 Series 7nm APU Uncovered

www.anandtech.com

I haven't had a chance to read the whole article yet, but Hardware unboxed says that the performance comparison AMD shows is for 15 W Renoir vs 25 W Intel chips.

 

[Markfw]

I'm telling you.... if these are really $1000 and $1200.....

It's basically for free.

Those are the 4800u, not the 4900H or HS

 

[AtenRa]

Those are the 4800u, not the 4900H or HS

It says 4800H for both laptops

 

[Markfw]

It says 4800H for both laptops

Sorry, typo.

 

[trivik12]

I want to see laptop with highest build quality/components. Thinkpad, XPS, Spectre level. Ones linked are gaming ones will run hot. I am not a gamer. I currently have a Spectre 2 in 1 with Core Y chip.

 

[Abwx]

IPC jump is definitely not 25%. 25% figure is cumulative of IPC(~15%) and clocks(~8-9% effective).

That s right, it s not 25% but "only" 23% better IPC in MT and a little less in ST, according to AMD s own numbers, the comparison is surely made with Raven Ridge wich is slightly below Picasso (3% MT IPC improvement from Zen to Zen+).

 

[mtcn77]

It is a matter of whether AMD just patched adaptive clock, or went the whole profile bin tuning route. You can have wee bit of clock stretching at the turbo bins, however it is blind faith to assume that is how mobile thriftiness is supposed to work. Either the bins need near voltage threshold calibration, or another idea which is where my genious shines;
'EDC' tuning: normal operation with edc is, the cpu starts stretching its profile bins, not adaptive clock. Think of it as a limited slip automatic clutch, yes it has to give, but not enough to lose torque on the hills.
AMD needs to merge how sense m.i controls edc throttling with adaptive clock stretching. The genious is there, they just need to ask the Llano guys how they put gpu load ahead of the cpu speed profile. Such a hierarchy can be framed between adaptive clock leading up to near voltage threshold edc throttling & operating in between vdroops.

 

[mtcn77]

I wanted to elaborate; right now edc and adaptive clock both operate, but not as a single field. EDC does not command the voltage step. It drops bins upon vdroop, but doesn't have a facsimile cpu bin voltage stretching feature. It could have a normative voltage field offset just as adaptive clock has a base clock offset and they could sort out a reciprocal near threshold voltage function, adaptive clock through speed and edc through voltage potential may form two halves of the same voltage step function maintaining the uppermost bin.

 

[Asterox]

Well, hm no additional comment is required.

 

[inf64]

Renoir is so superior that it's stupendous

 

[AtenRa]

Renoir is so superior that it's stupendous

For AMD sake they better take advantage of it because they will not get too many opportunities like this.

 

[uzzi38]

For AMD sake they better take advantage of it because they will not get too many opportunities like this.

Renoir will do it's job of reminding the laptop market that AMD exist pretty well. It won't win a great deal on it's own, but in the future (Cezanne and on) expect much better adoption for Ryzen mobile.

 

[Asterox]

Again hm, no additional comment is required.

 

[AtenRa]

Dell Ryzen 4000 Mobile laptop with RX5600M

Dell G5 15 SE Laptop Powered by AMD

https://www.amd.com/en/gaming/gaming-laptops-dellg515se?utm_campaign=selek2020&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_content=awarenessphase&utm_term=announcement

 

[Asterox]

Asus Renoir APU Mobile Powered Mini PC is coming to the market.

Mini PC PN50 | Mini PCs | ASUS Global

Mini PC PN50

www.asus.com

ASUS Announces All-new Mini PC PN50

ASUS today announced Mini PC PN50, an ultra-compact computer that delivers powerful performance for a wide variety of home and business applications. Featuring the latest AMD Ryzen 4000 mobile processors with Radeon Vega 7 graphics, and support for high-speed 3200 MHz DDR4 memory, Mini PC PN50...

www.techpowerup.com

"PN50 supports a single 8K display at up to 60 Hz and also supports up to four displays with 4K resolution at 60 Hz through HDMI, DisplayPort over dual USB-C and user-configurable ports,2 without any limitation on the combination."

 

[Asterox]

Well, i can imagine Zen 3/Mobile Cezanne 8/16 APU performance at 15W.

 

[mtcn77]

Asus Renoir APU Mobile Powered Mini PC is coming to the market.

Mini PC PN50 | Mini PCs | ASUS Global

Mini PC PN50

www.asus.com

ASUS Announces All-new Mini PC PN50

ASUS today announced Mini PC PN50, an ultra-compact computer that delivers powerful performance for a wide variety of home and business applications. Featuring the latest AMD Ryzen 4000 mobile processors with Radeon Vega 7 graphics, and support for high-speed 3200 MHz DDR4 memory, Mini PC PN50...

www.techpowerup.com

"PN50 supports a single 8K display at up to 60 Hz and also supports up to four displays with 4K resolution at 60 Hz through HDMI, DisplayPort over dual USB-C and user-configurable ports,2 without any limitation on the combination."

This is good. People are asking for tv boxes and I cannot recommend them one that just doesn't feature MadVR quite the way I like it.

 

[Asterox]

Hm, "it will be very hot" if this turns out to be true or legit.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1351207659886829568

Intel oraz NVIDIA mieli wewnętrzną umowę, która blokowała tworzenie laptopów z AMD Renoir oraz GeForce RTX 2070 i wyżej | PurePC.pl

Intel oraz NVIDIA miały podpisane porozumienie, na mocy którego producenci laptopów nie mogli przygotowywać modeli z układami AMD Ryzen 4000 oraz GeForce RTX 2000.

www.purepc.pl

 

[Abwx]

Low cost compact PC using a 4500U reviewed at Computerbase :

ASRock Mars 4500U mit AMD Ryzen im Test

ASRock liefert mit dem Mars 4500U einen AMD-Renoir-Mini-PC für unter 400 Euro. Er besticht durch viel Leistung im flachen Design.

www.computerbase.de

 

[scineram]

So Lucienne is Renoir with fixed power management.