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Anand's FX5600 & 5200 review
- Thread starter Deeko
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I can't believe Nvidia fell so flat on their face...they owned the videocard market not too long ago and now they're stuck in the #2 spot. What amazes me even more is the fact that ATi's stock is selling at $6CDN/share right now...it was over $20 around xmas time last year...doesn't make much sense to me.
nemesismk2
Diamond Member
I'll reserve my judgement until Nvidia has managed to release some half decent drivers for the FX5600 and FX5200. Nvidia had better get working on their drivers or their new video cards are doomed before they are even released.
Although it's nothing new for Nvidia, I remember when I first had my GF4 MX440. You couldn't even use UT2003 with it until a couple of driver releases later and then it outperformed the GF3 Ti200 I had at the time.
Nvidia needs to atleast have working drivers BEFORE letting people review their video cards, how dumb can you get?
Although it's nothing new for Nvidia, I remember when I first had my GF4 MX440. You couldn't even use UT2003 with it until a couple of driver releases later and then it outperformed the GF3 Ti200 I had at the time.
Nvidia needs to atleast have working drivers BEFORE letting people review their video cards, how dumb can you get?
nemesismk2
Diamond Member
Got to raise an important question, what is it with Anand's blind dedication to Intel? Someone should tell him to get his tongue out of Intel's a*se and get benchmarking on AMD platforms as well.
Actually how many of their readers are even using P4 cpu's compared to Athlon XP owners?
I seriously doubt Anand has a good review in him, maybe I should try hitting him a few times with his 3ghz P4 computer and ask him why anyone with a 3ghz P4 would ever purchase a Radeon 9500, FX5600 or FX5200 used in his review.
RANT OVER! 🙂
Actually how many of their readers are even using P4 cpu's compared to Athlon XP owners?
I seriously doubt Anand has a good review in him, maybe I should try hitting him a few times with his 3ghz P4 computer and ask him why anyone with a 3ghz P4 would ever purchase a Radeon 9500, FX5600 or FX5200 used in his review.
RANT OVER! 🙂
In case you were wondering, the reason he's been using Intel CPUs is because they're the most powerful currently available. Using the fastest CPU stresses the cards as much as possible and eliminates the CPU as being a limiting factor in the tests. And no, I'm not an Intel fanboy. Don't own a single one.
sash1
Diamond Member
FS has their review of the 5200/Ultra up as well.
Kind of interesting that they would compare it to the MX line of cards. Based on it's performance, and the fact it has only a "four" pixel pipeline (2x2), I think it's quite fitting to compare it to the neutered MX cards.
While the $79 price tag is convincing for a DX9 card, I think I'll pass--mebbe this'll be fit for mah secondary rig. While reference card previews may not convey the actual performance of the card on release, it's pretty indicative as to how it will perform.
Although, I must admit, it's AA/AF performance is quite impressive. It easily outperforms the 8500/9000Pro and keeps up with the Ti4200. However, when the eye-candy is off, it's performace (in comparison to the other cards), isn't too impressive.
~Aunix
Kind of interesting that they would compare it to the MX line of cards. Based on it's performance, and the fact it has only a "four" pixel pipeline (2x2), I think it's quite fitting to compare it to the neutered MX cards.
While the $79 price tag is convincing for a DX9 card, I think I'll pass--mebbe this'll be fit for mah secondary rig. While reference card previews may not convey the actual performance of the card on release, it's pretty indicative as to how it will perform.
Although, I must admit, it's AA/AF performance is quite impressive. It easily outperforms the 8500/9000Pro and keeps up with the Ti4200. However, when the eye-candy is off, it's performace (in comparison to the other cards), isn't too impressive.
~Aunix
For me the FX 5200 Ultra will be a nice upgrade from my current GeForce1 ... Nice AA/AF performance at current (non AA-AF) play resolutions: 1024x768 with a nice improvement in framerates and a nice price tag..
I'm not (yet) going to replace my Geforce ti-200, with one of the current FX cards, coz i'm still waiting what the NV35 will do.
I'm not (yet) going to replace my Geforce ti-200, with one of the current FX cards, coz i'm still waiting what the NV35 will do.
nemesismk2
Diamond Member
What kind of performance does the FX 5600 and 5200 deliver with an AMD system? Anandtech only benchmarked the video cards using a very high powered Intel system, the review is pointless without also featuring an equally powerful AMD system. Tom's Hardware Guide usually features both an AMD and Intel system, why doesn't Anandtech also do this?
nemesismk2
Diamond Member
nemesismk2
Diamond Member
I sent Anand an email this morning asking for an AMD system to be included IMO alot of people are more interested in seeing reviews featuring AMD systems than Intel ones. I've seen loads of polls conducted here in the cpu section and the amount of Athlon XP owners far out numbers Pentium4 owners.
nemesismk2
Diamond Member
I think Nvidia are going to sell the 5600 Ultra in the same market as the old Ti4200. I agree apart from the DX9 features of the 5600 Ultra (which willn't be supported with software for ages) there is no reason for Ti4200 owners to buy a 5600 Ultra. Although it does seem like the drivers are "really" holding it back badly which shouldn't be the case considering all the time Nvidia has had to improve the drivers.
the point of using the high-end Intel CPU is to isolate one variable of the benchmark. They're using the most ridiculously expensive processor they can get their hands on to try and eliminate the processor variable from the reasons why performance might vary.
The point of the benchmarks isn't to give an absolute performance number that will be repeatable on every system, it's to provide a stable and equal system to compare one thing at a time, which happens to be relative video card performance here.
Adding a high-end AMD processor would double the amount of benchmarking Anandtech would have to do in every review, and would add nothing to a video category review. If there is a difference in video performance with Intel/AMD, it would belong in a CPU review.
If you want absolute performance numbers, you should probably look at user groups focused on benchmarking (unreal, 3dmark, whatever you want). What Anandtech is trying to do is what those groups can't do, which is buy (borrow, get their hands on) 10 different video cards and see how they perform relative to eachother in a controlled and isolated environment.
The point of the benchmarks isn't to give an absolute performance number that will be repeatable on every system, it's to provide a stable and equal system to compare one thing at a time, which happens to be relative video card performance here.
Adding a high-end AMD processor would double the amount of benchmarking Anandtech would have to do in every review, and would add nothing to a video category review. If there is a difference in video performance with Intel/AMD, it would belong in a CPU review.
If you want absolute performance numbers, you should probably look at user groups focused on benchmarking (unreal, 3dmark, whatever you want). What Anandtech is trying to do is what those groups can't do, which is buy (borrow, get their hands on) 10 different video cards and see how they perform relative to eachother in a controlled and isolated environment.
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