Anand remembers September 11th

[bmd]

I was going to come here to post something when I saw this thread. I thought it was eloquent and to the point. Well done.

 

[Spooner]

Excellent job! Well thought out article

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: TheShiz
I agree that September 11 was a sad day, but I wish more Americans would realize that events such as this have happened all throughout history. It saddens me how the media virtually ignores other serious issues going on in the world. I'm sure every American knows every detail about September 11, but most know nothing about events happening elsewhere due to American influence. Just a few years ago, on August 30th and the next few days in 1999, around 2,000 innocent people were killed in East Timor. The East Timorese had done nothing to deserve this. Who was responsible you ask? Indonesia and The United States. The US provided Indonesia with military aid, sold them arms, and even gave the green light back in 1975 to invade them, and finally dropped military support in 1999 after the massacre. Why have you not heard of this? Because your government does not want you to hear about it. In all about 200,000 Timorese have died while the US supported Indonesia and did nothing to stop the attrocities until 1999.

The media and the US government makes out a life of an American to be much more valuable than anyone else in the world. I just hope some day that people will realize that life is precious no matter where it occurs, the US government is by no means perfect and must be kept in check so that things like this are not allowed to occur. May all those innocents killed rest in peace, no matter where they happend to be born.

Tim

information on East Timor - East Timor Action Network

But it wasn't Americans who died in East Timor.

Now before you call me cold hearted, listen to what I have to say. The fact that it wasn't Americans means all the difference. While sad that so many innocent people had to die over there, naturally when fellow Americans die it hits us harder and closer to home. We feel more for the people in New York. I'm sure the people in East Timor consider the death of 2000 East Timor people to be more tragic than the WTC event. I would expect this. They would remember the death of their own people more vividly than some Americans far away.

 

JKing76

I'm going to break the circle-jerk here and say that not covering the IDF because it would be 'disrespectful' towards the victims of the attack is pretty much the most batshit insane thing I've heard today, and with all the exploitative pandering I've seen today, that's saying something.


Also, "We must never forget to remember"? Good [unallowed word] god.

I respect everyone's right to there own opinion,but did you ever hear the word "tact" before ?

Can you show some civility when posting on this man's BBS ?

I feel sorry for you,not because of your bitterness,because you do not have the insight to show compassion when it is called for.

 

[KennyH]

Very good read, probably the best I have ever read about 9/11. Great job Anand.

 

[SyahM]

Good job Anand, I recommend everyone to read it!

 

[Linflas]

Eloquent and to the point. Good job Anand.

 

[MainFramed]

Originally posted by: Rallispec
very thoughtful anand

 

[teddymines]

Good job, Anand.

No matter how many people write commentaries on the subject, they all have a common theme: don't back down.

I also can't imagine being brainwashed to the point where you believe that taking your life while killing others will get you a favorable place in the afterlife (if there is one). Anyone who supports this thinking is a threat to everyone.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

The Boss is logged in, too. I hope he sees this thread since he doesn't allow PMs...

nik

 

[JKing76]

I guess posting IDF articles the day after the one-year anniversary of a terrorist attack is disrespectful to the victims, too. Nice to see a national tragedy exploited to cover some laziness.

 

[Farmall]

Very nice and well written!

 

[UlricT]

But it wasn't Americans who died in East Timor.

Now before you call me cold hearted, listen to what I have to say. The fact that it wasn't Americans means all the difference. While sad that so many innocent people had to die over there, naturally when fellow Americans die it hits us harder and closer to home. We feel more for the people in New York. I'm sure the people in East Timor consider the death of 2000 East Timor people to be more tragic than the WTC event. I would expect this. They would remember the death of their own people more vividly than some Americans far away.

I would call this opinion one from the dark ages... nothing else. Do you really think that people matter less depending on where they are from? You comments seem to show you as a very shallow person, who still believes that a country is mcuh more than a political entity. Isn't humanity more important than paltry patriotism? Just because it has been ingrained into your blood from day 1 (and every country does that.. ), doesnt mean that you should be looking down on others.

What everyone should realise is that people need to start thinking of the world as one. And love should be given freely to each and every person who deserves it. Narrow-mindedness is what will take us away from peace...

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: UlricT

But it wasn't Americans who died in East Timor.

Now before you call me cold hearted, listen to what I have to say. The fact that it wasn't Americans means all the difference. While sad that so many innocent people had to die over there, naturally when fellow Americans die it hits us harder and closer to home. We feel more for the people in New York. I'm sure the people in East Timor consider the death of 2000 East Timor people to be more tragic than the WTC event. I would expect this. They would remember the death of their own people more vividly than some Americans far away.

I would call this opinion one from the dark ages... nothing else. Do you really think that people matter less depending on where they are from? You comments seem to show you as a very shallow person, who still believes that a country is mcuh more than a political entity. Isn't humanity more important than paltry patriotism? Just because it has been ingrained into your blood from day 1 (and every country does that.. ), doesnt mean that you should be looking down on others.

What everyone should realise is that people need to start thinking of the world as one. And love should be given freely to each and every person who deserves it. Narrow-mindedness is what will take us away from peace...

Did you even listen to what I was saying? Here, let me put it in simplier tearms.

If my neighbors house explodes, and some house explodes in the next town, I am going to be much more affected by the explosion at my neighbors.

Get the picture?

I was never looking down on anyone

 

[zeruty]

I, too, think it was an excellent commentary written by anand...


in regards to some of the recent posts here...

a good percentage of the population of the US knew someone either killed, or directly affected by the attack....
very few americans know people from east timor...

I am personally affected in that, in the aftermath of the attack, my dad has been laid off from boeing (after 30 years of service)

anyways, my point is.... millions of americans have been affected by the attack on our country, but very few are affected by anything to do with east timor (I dont even know where that is), so america as a whole is going to remember, and be changed due to 9/11... and it doesnt make those americans bad people because they arent concerned with whatever happens in east timor.....

 

[StattlichPassat]

 

[mesonw]

"We must never forget to remember"

Why do people insist on wanting to remember things that make them miserable? Talk about masochistic.
Why not say, "let's try and forget how bad this incident was"? Instead, the general populace tends to think it better to build up a plethora of nasty memories.... why? Maybe so they've got an excuse the next time one of them goes ballistic with a handgun?

zeruty:
"a good percentage of the population of the US knew someone either killed, or directly affected by the attack...."
I hardly think so... how many killed? Roughly 5000 - even if each one knew 50 different people, that's only 250,000... what's the population of the US? Roughly 250,000,000.... so, that'd be about 0.1% hmmmm.... a "good percentage"?

My point: the enormity isn't quite that enormous.

 

[Dhruv]

Originally posted by: mesonw
"We must never forget to remember"

Why do people insist on wanting to remember things that make them miserable? Talk about masochistic.
Why not say, "let's try and forget how bad this incident was"? Instead, the general populace tends to think it better to build up a plethora of nasty memories.... why? Maybe so they've got an excuse the next time one of them goes ballistic with a handgun?

Mesonw: so by your logic, is it safe to say that if you went out, got piss drunk the night before a major exam, and failed that exam the next morning, you would want to forget that you failed that exam the next time an exam came around? Was 9/11 preventable? As proven time and again months after the attack, it was. A few of the hijackers had expired student visas, and were not accounted for in the U.S. Some had signed up for classes but never attended them. If our government agencies had been on top of things better, from class attendance reports, to tracking their locations, purchases, etc. this would not have happened. Being resilient, optimistic people is a good thing, but it can be a bad thing if we forget what happened and allow it to happen again. i'm not much older than Anand but am surprised to see how well he writes. For being 20 years old he shows a lot more maturity, insight, and love than I do.