Anand does P4

Napalm

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For today's buyer, the Pentium 4 simply doesn't make sense. It's slower than the competition in just about every area, it's more expensive, it's using an interface that won't be the flagship interface in 6 - 9 months and it requires a considerable investment outside of the price of the CPU itself. Remember that you have to buy a new motherboard, new memory (if you don't get it bundled with a boxed CPU), and a new power supply/case. This is the investment that must be made in order to have a CPU that can't outperform any of today's top performers with the promise that tomorrow's Pentium 4 will be better.

OUCH!!! :D

Napalm
 

Madcowz

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I do believe hearing a few members saying something about Anand being a slave to intel (or should I say Intel's bitch)? Well now what do you say huh!?
 

Dulanic

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Its pretty much exactly what I expected from the P4...... Palomino is gonna crush this thing.
 

Chriz

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Wow, P4 sounds like a dud. However, it has a HUGE amount of memory bandwith. I think that in the future the P4 architecture could be killer when coupled with DDR and optimized applications. But for now, Athlon DDR is king :)
 

MikeyP

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After reading that, I think Intel is in some more trouble. It looks to me like all the P4 has going for it is SSE2. By the time it is widely implemented, ClawHammer will be out with support for it. Unless this thing can ramp up unbelievably and hit 3Ghz next year, I think Palomino will beat it. Notice, not crush it, but just beat it...looks like we'll have some more competition for the next year! Bring on Palomino, bring on P4, woohoo!
 

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<< Ya, Anand slammed Intel pretty hard. But with good reason. >>

I agree, though some of the benchmarks show some hope for the P4, I think it's a little to late seeing that the AMD760 will be widely available soon.
 

Hulk

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Intel has made a HUGE and critical mistake.

They have decided that the public is absolutely stupid.

They have decided that performance doesn't matter, only MHz.

This is the same mistake the American auto manufacturers made in the '70's when then were crushed by the Japanese.

They will pay for this mistake.

The P4 sucks in almost every benchmark that matter.

History has proven that a processor that performs badly at launch never is saved by rewriting software for it.

Even Intel had to modify the Pentium Pro for it to be successful.

They are f$cked.
 

ndee

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uahahahahahahahahaha, nice review Anand. :D

Aaaahhh, it's good to see, that Intel gets beaten by AMD ;)
 

ElFenix

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spanked!

intel told everyone that the pro wasn't good for most, and that they should stick with the pentium. i bought one anyway.
 

Ben

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Just read the article...

He, he

P4

he, he

Rambus

He, he, huh

Whew! That was a good one.
 

Argo

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I don't get one thing though, what's up with those Q3 benchmarks? P4 simply owns athlon in there. Has John Carmack SSE2 optimized the lattest patch or something?
 

Sharkmeat

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I remember something about AMD chips having to get bigger power supplys and MB plus video cards and sound cards and special memory to run the darn things.Now it is bad news when intel needs a bigger power supply and of course with a new chip you haft to have a MB.Boy what a review.From 1 to 10 I give it a 3 1/2 and that is because i,m a nice guy.Have a good day PS when will AMD get there 1.5 mhz hehe,Oh they haft to wait for them to make an ice mechine for the heatsinks to cool it i guess.
 

IBMer

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Just remember that out of the three games he used, only Q3 had any optimizations.

And it only had SSE.

Imagine how much it would crush it with SSE2.

You all speak too quickly...
 

MikeyP

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Ahh yes, but what if Quake had 3Dnow! :) SSE2 is going to rock though...if it gets support.
 

xtreme2k

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2 points I want to make

1. Anand mentioned that intel is bundling 2 PC800 RDRAM modules per P4 CPU, is that correct? I thought they are bundling 2x PC600 instead. Anyone can verify this?

2. All these benchmarks are generally optimised for the PPro core, Q3, MDK, UT, I would love to see some benchmark that is more optimised for the P4 or SSE2.

 

IBMer

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Ahh yes, but what if Quake had 3Dnow! SSE2 is going to rock though...if it gets support

Then again, how many systems does AMD send out to companies for them to optimize their products for it.

3DNow and 3DNow! Ext. aren't really that great.

AMD is even pitching them in favor of SSE and SSE2.

That isn't a good sign.
 

OS

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Even ZDnet has noticed that the P4 sucks ass, and when ZDnet slams the next gen Intel chip, even casual computer users will notice.